• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:36
CEST 13:36
KST 20:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection3Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)7
Community News
[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June0Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th150Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League6
StarCraft 2
General
The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection My starcraft 2 changes StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum Mutation # 527 Hell Train
Brood War
General
Tesagi Viewer - A new era of replay watching FlaSh's ASL S21 Finals Review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ 14k games analyzed: Cross Spawn Nexus first good? VPN experiences
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How cold is too cold to be outdoors? Dating: How's your luck? Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esportsmanship: How to NOT B…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7083 users

[Discussion] Patch Notes - Page 23

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 118 Next
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 02 2011 22:21 GMT
#441
they need to go ahead and make guinsoo's staff of vice or eul's scepter equivalents (both were int items with ~1-3 second disables as actives) so we can get some differentiation in caster items.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 02 2011 23:46 GMT
#442
I saw a red post that said basically 'never gonna happen', I forget why :<
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 00:49:03
January 03 2011 00:48 GMT
#443
On January 03 2011 08:46 UniversalSnip wrote:
I saw a red post that said basically 'never gonna happen', I forget why :<


'slike, maximum amount of fun or whatever

morgana's dark binding is a good skill in terms of "fun" output according to the red in question because juking and or landing clutch bindings is fun for both sides

whereas sheepstick or guinsoo's staff is just one dude being happy that the other dude is a walking set of teeth and the other is raging that he can't do anything for 3 seconds helplessly (like a itemized equivalent of malz/ww ult, pretty rage-worthy)
Hey! Listen!
Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
January 03 2011 01:30 GMT
#444
pretty much, also note the low, low number of disables that are > 2 secs. Not being able to control your character isn't really 'fun'. They do have a LOT of slows tho. which imo serves it's purpose without the whole zomg stunned to death feeling that really isn't much fun.

It would also make for even safer/boring play, as with that much disable, if you screw up a tiny bit, you're gonna die.

when fights turn into, zomg who's sheepstaff will go off first, then you need BKB lookalikes, etc, etc. or you could just skip the whole rigmarole.
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
January 03 2011 01:53 GMT
#445
I wonder if DeathCap and Zonya's will stack .... If yes, i guess playing Lux/Veigar/Annie in pubs is going to be incredibely fun :D
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 02:19:13
January 03 2011 02:18 GMT
#446
Sheep stick would just be a billion times better than any other item.
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
January 03 2011 02:22 GMT
#447
Don't see any reason why it wouldn't. It runs into the same problems as rushing old Zhonya's. You'll still be a glass cannon with your only survivability in the activate and summoner skills. Just more of a gold investment for more cost efficient AP.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 19:12:52
January 03 2011 19:12 GMT
#448
On January 03 2011 07:21 gtrsrs wrote:
they need to go ahead and make guinsoo's staff of vice or eul's scepter equivalents (both were int items with ~1-3 second disables as actives) so we can get some differentiation in caster items.

The Eul's active is basically a strictly better version of the Zhonya's active (lasts longer, targetable on boh allies and enemies, not just self). In order to make Eul's/Guinsoo's balanced within the framework of LoL relative to items like these two, they'd have to make the cost of the item pointed disproportionately toward the active.
Moderator
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
January 03 2011 21:46 GMT
#449
On January 03 2011 10:53 Tyrran wrote:
I wonder if DeathCap and Zonya's will stack .... If yes, i guess playing Lux/Veigar/Annie in pubs is going to be incredibely fun :D


Don't forget Vlad and Kennen.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 03 2011 22:09 GMT
#450
I've noticed kennen is VERY VERY similar to annie except for energy mana mechanic.

Kennen passive = 3 stack stun on target. Annie passive = 5 stack stun on next cast.
Annies q+w combo = kennens zap+shuriken combo
Annie's ulti = aoe drop with pet usually with stun. Kennens combo = aoe ulti with stun and damage.

They are both built similarly, if it wasn't for the fact that annie can keep range for all her stuff i'd almost say that kennen is just flat out better.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 22:14:53
January 03 2011 22:14 GMT
#451
On January 04 2011 07:09 Slayer91 wrote:
I've noticed kennen is VERY VERY similar to annie except for energy mana mechanic.

Kennen passive = 3 stack stun on target. Annie passive = 5 stack stun on next cast.
Annies q+w combo = kennens zap+shuriken combo
Annie's ulti = aoe drop with pet usually with stun. Kennens combo = aoe ulti with stun and damage.

They are both built similarly, if it wasn't for the fact that annie can keep range for all her stuff i'd almost say that kennen is just flat out better.

Yes, he is. Annie was considered T1 champ for a looong time and i think the main reason she's not T1 anymore is because kennen fills the same role as her while being (slightly) better than her
Morzas
Profile Joined August 2005
United States387 Posts
January 04 2011 04:18 GMT
#452
New Black Cleaver seems pretty good.
What has four wheels and flies? Stephen Hawking on LSD!
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 04 2011 04:18 GMT
#453
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
January 04 2011 04:18 GMT
#454
Newest patch notes released: http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=427085

Mostly all discussed in video preview.

Only thing that is up for discussion is monster experience range reduced to 800 from 1250 makes zoning a lot easier and makes it so mid can't steal xp from jungler's wraiths.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 04 2011 04:24 GMT
#455
Black Cleaver is going to be useful i think...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
January 04 2011 04:27 GMT
#456
When Riot refers to monsters in patch notes they are only referring to neutral creeps, not minions. Obviously just a fix for wraith xp annoyance.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 04 2011 04:30 GMT
#457
new black cleaver looks worse imo
it's like a shittier version of madreds BRs
why would they kill its damage so hard
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Crazazyasian1337
Profile Joined October 2009
United States362 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 04:37:05
January 04 2011 04:36 GMT
#458
but it gets 30% attack speed now. that would probably make up most of the lost damage, especially with the passive on it ramping up faster.

EDIT: Also, does Caitlyn's voice sound kinda dumb to anyone else?
;)))))))))
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
January 04 2011 04:57 GMT
#459
Shrine (spawn) turrets now ignore all resistances and immunities


Fountain diving just got a lot more heroic
it's my first day
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
January 04 2011 05:04 GMT
#460
New champion looks fun to play.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 118 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
09:00
KungFu Cup 2026 Week 9
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Livibee 66
ProTech56
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 20557
Calm 9444
Horang2 436
Jaedong 434
Hyuk 425
actioN 359
Shuttle 280
BeSt 244
EffOrt 223
Mini 145
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 91
ZerO 88
Pusan 85
scan(afreeca) 75
Soulkey 74
Liquid`Ret 71
Rush 57
Hyun 48
Mind 38
[sc1f]eonzerg 31
Mong 30
Aegong 29
Backho 27
Free 25
JulyZerg 21
Sacsri 21
sSak 21
Sharp 18
Bale 16
Noble 15
yabsab 12
Shine 12
HiyA 12
Dota 2
Gorgc4209
XcaliburYe77
League of Legends
JimRising 396
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2341
kRYSTAL_45
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King92
Other Games
singsing1778
B2W.Neo893
byalli642
Lowko390
crisheroes264
Hui .196
Sick162
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP166
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3936
• Jankos2601
Other Games
• WagamamaTV97
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3h 24m
Maestros of the Game
3h 54m
Clem vs Lambo
Zoun vs SKillous
Replay Cast
12h 24m
Replay Cast
21h 24m
Solar vs Classic
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 3h
Grudge Match
1d 4h
FlaShFTW vs A.Alm
OSC
1d 9h
GSL
1d 20h
herO vs Rogue
Maru vs Cure
Patches Events
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL
2 days
OSC
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KK 2v2 League Season 1
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Heroes Pulsing #3
Heroes Pulsing #2
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.