EPTI've started tracking enemy junglers by keeping track of CS on the scoresheet and it works wonderfully, I can predict where they will be without wards/clairvoyance and set up a gank.
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
I've started tracking enemy junglers by keeping track of CS on the scoresheet and it works wonderfully, I can predict where they will be without wards/clairvoyance and set up a gank. | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
Udyr is such a perfect champion to do this with. He NEEDS wraiths, but has a hard time starting there. When my wraiths spawned for the second time after my 2nd wraithjack I found udyr there with low health and underleveled ready to die to me plus my mid lane. He could never get dragon and never attempted a gank. Too underleveled and bad buff timings for both. | ||
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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nataziel
Australia1455 Posts
I love to wraith jack with udyr, sets you up really well for a red buff gank at level 4 | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
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Dezzimal
United States148 Posts
The brunt of my question is I feel like I can't jungle fast enough or effectively enough on Rammus without a wriggles, and though Amumu's jungling speed is fine with blue he's always missing a lot of health. Is it completely wrong to depend on wriggles for jungling or do I need to buy more health pots or finish off my less-than-perfect tank jungling runepage which has some t2 runes and no 3rd hp quint in it. | ||
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ShoreT
United States489 Posts
Wraiths -> SG - > BP -> Blue -> Wolves -> Red -> is like 4:15 or 4:30 I've been Wraithjacking lately and ganking a bit later as well. 398 MS Udyr from level 1 is scary and makes for a very, very scary level 4 gank with bear + ghost. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 06 2010 11:49 Dezzimal wrote: About tank junglers: I feel like I never have any HP on Rammus/Amumu, especially when an opportunity for a gank opens up and I'm midway through my second tour of the non-buff creeps with double buff at around lv4 or 5. This problem persists through midgame and gets better at around lv 14 or 15 when I start to have significantly more armor and a sunfire. Though around lv10 to 15 Rammus' jungling speed goes way down unless I've bought a wriggles. Amumu is just fine as long as I have blue, but he hemorrhages HP and you have to B before any sort of gank. The brunt of my question is I feel like I can't jungle fast enough or effectively enough on Rammus without a wriggles, and though Amumu's jungling speed is fine with blue he's always missing a lot of health. Is it completely wrong to depend on wriggles for jungling or do I need to buy more health pots or finish off my less-than-perfect tank jungling runepage which has some t2 runes and no 3rd hp quint in it. After about 15 minutes, your opportunities to really farm up start to get less and less, since you have to be at at team-fights to initiate. Before then, you really want to be getting Hearts of Gold because they help to supplement your income for a long time, and become cost-effective for the HP/armor within a minute of buying them. They don't cover you for magic damage, but picking up a negatron can hold over your early needs. A lot of times I end up getting sunfire really late or not at all on Amumu. Randuin and GA are way more cost-effective for similar stats, and lots of times the enemy's damage isn't so physical-slanted to warrant 3+ armor items. EDIT: OK I sort of went on a tangent that really didn't answer your question. On top of which I'm not sure my advice is that correct, or helpful. >.> | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
Shen can jungle but it not useful right? | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
i cleared the jungle pretty fast but i didn't contribute anything to my team. is shaco still any good? i always feed with him  | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On November 06 2010 14:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote: oh jesus i tried jungle shaco and i sucked bad i cleared the jungle pretty fast but i didn't contribute anything to my team. is shaco still any good? i always feed with him | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
On November 06 2010 17:13 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Okay, so I just got FRAPS and I think I'm going to start frapsing my games to commentate on. Hopefully we can get some good jungle games in .Awesome. Commentary ftw. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
edit: 1:38 for double golems, 1:53 for blue, but I swear it's spawned earlier for me than that. | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:58 SnK-Arcbound wrote: I'd like to note that the last time I jungled, blue spawned at 1:45 instead of 1:55, and stone golems spawned at (I think) 1:37 instead of 1:40. I'm going to go clarify this, hopefully practice games don't take 2 people. edit: 1:38 for double golems, 1:53 for blue, but I swear it's spawned earlier for me than that. The clock often bugs when someone has issues connecting, like when someone drops while loading or sits at 999 ping but instantly loads or just takes years for everyone to join the game. It might just be that. | ||
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DiracMonopole
United States1555 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
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