EPT[Strategy] Advanced Jungling - Page 3
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Niton
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NeoIllusions
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ShoreT
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Germany1471 Posts
Junglers especially perform mostly regardless of HP. If the enemy manages to suprise you alone in the jungle they aren´t looking for a fair fight. If they don´t have some kind of advantage that is worth more than 100 HP they wouldn´t have gone after you anyway. | ||
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Niton
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
On November 07 2010 23:51 ShoreT wrote: As a jungler, if you don't absolutely need the hp to make a safe jungle run, I'd opt for Movespeed quints if possible. Especially on junglers like Udyr who also serve as great chasers. Attack speed quints on Udyr for Phoenix DPS and Turtle leech~ | ||
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UniversalSnip
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NeoIllusions
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On November 08 2010 09:20 UniversalSnip wrote: When I jungle amumu I always end up underleveled compared to the rest of the team. Is this normal? This is the problem with "viable" junglers. They can jungle but they do it much slower than say a WW or Udyr. So yes, they end up a little underleveled. It's up to you to find open lanes (let's say after outer towers have fallen, yours or theirs) and farm a couple waves of creep. | ||
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
Who is better overall? Right now I think Olaf is better overall, plus he doesn't have to build Bloodrazors to have a high damage output, so he can go straight for a tank build. Thoughts? | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
WW ganks better early and mid game. Olaf is a fucking machine late game once he has 3 or more high tier tank items. WW with Bloodrazor will shred tanks ezpz. Olaf is wonderful against a team loaded with CC. WW with Infinite Duress can always capitalize on players out of position. Olaf has better burst with low CD E. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On November 08 2010 09:20 UniversalSnip wrote: When I jungle amumu I always end up underleveled compared to the rest of the team. Is this normal? no its not normal, you might be wasting too much time looking for ganks. just keep clearing the jungle unless you are 100% sure you can get a kill | ||
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Skithiryx
Australia648 Posts
On November 07 2010 12:50 DiracMonopole wrote: Yeah, the actual game clock is kept server side, and its pretty easy for it to desync. Yep, have had it say "30 seconds till mino~""Minions have spawned" | ||
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
On November 08 2010 10:49 Brees wrote: no its not normal, you might be wasting too much time looking for ganks. just keep clearing the jungle unless you are 100% sure you can get a kill Yeah, I have this problem a lot because I waste too much time roaming instead of just making sure I'm keeping up in levels. It's hard to shake the habit because so many people on your team will make comments like "wtf where is gank" even if there's no good opportunity. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On November 08 2010 10:06 NeoIllusions wrote: This is the problem with "viable" junglers. They can jungle but they do it much slower than say a WW or Udyr. So yes, they end up a little underleveled. It's up to you to find open lanes (let's say after outer towers have fallen, yours or theirs) and farm a couple waves of creep. Amumu is a significantly faster jungler than WW. Tantrum + Despair >> Hunters Call + Hungering Strike in terms of jungling speed- what WW has in his favor is that he spends a lot less gold on pots. | ||
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Kingske
Belgium252 Posts
 Tell everyone 5hit made that up yo!Love the guide, will contribute my own tactics soon Bravery v feeding as a jungler? Taking advantage of your jungle when you dont have one... (mostly for noobs) | ||
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Knightlax
United States150 Posts
I've never been much for jungling, as I've always preferred to be in a lane. But after I read this, I took what I learned and actually developed a way to Jungle KogMaw. I keep up in levels with the side lane, and red buff gank comes right before the lanes hit 6. Obviously, Kog lands in the "viable" category for junglers, simply because of the low hp moments between lvl 2 and 3. But after that, things get ultra smooth. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
And before someone jumps on me and says "What about Yi?!". Yes, Yi is also DPS but Alpha Strike has a mini Madred's proc so Yi breeze through the jungle. Kog doesn't have anything of the sort. Yi can also Highlander out of most Jungle ganks. Kog is a sitting duck. | ||
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Germany1471 Posts
On November 08 2010 10:49 Brees wrote: no its not normal, you might be wasting too much time looking for ganks. just keep clearing the jungle unless you are 100% sure you can get a kill Might not exactly be true. Unlike laneminions the junglecreeps don´t grant more XP over time and the "big" ones have prohibitive respawn times. You WILL fall behind eventually if you keep jungling. Ganking is important, so is covering a lane when someone is pushed/shopping. Not only for overal Towerhealth but also your XP-gain. My suggestion is to try and spend the least amount of time possible in the jungle. When that enemy Mordekaiser is hopelessly overextended the Wolves can wait. | ||
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