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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 14 2011 22:47 GMT
#9441
On March 15 2011 07:44 Tooplark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 07:34 Shikyo wrote:
On March 15 2011 07:28 Slayer91 wrote:
lol your teamfighting must have been horribad if u lost with a fed yi and irelia. Does yi build tank items? Seems stupid to play a melee as a squishy. I bet you got fed early game but lategame they had better teamfights and EZ owned you.

I resold and rebought items at the end solely for backdooring, also I didn't feel the need to buy that much tanking stuff since we had Zilean and Kayle ulti-ing me which worked wonders earlier on.

They had 4 Thornmails and 1 GA.

Also at the end they had 1 inhib turret at 30% hp along with the nexus but I never got around to BDing it. We could have stalled the game almost endlessly but my team decided to chase the enemies and the minions got our nex. Still, I'm not sure about what to do with Yi when the opponent decides to go mass thornmail


Guess I'll stop playing AD carries altogether, 3 times in a row I was megafed at the start then they build mass thornmail and we lose. Impossible to win vs that op strategy.


For $300... an item that was, up until a recent patch removed its attackspeed, part of the two item combo every ranged dps purchased?

It doesn't do nearly enough and you still get reflected, but yeah I'd have gotten it if I hadn't re-sold for BDing.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
March 14 2011 22:49 GMT
#9442
Yeah a Last Whisper + some lifesteal would have worked wonders.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 22:54:52
March 14 2011 22:54 GMT
#9443
On March 15 2011 07:46 Kaniol wrote:
Wait, does swain's E really increase ignite's damage? I always thought that it increases only dmg of his autoattacks (it was supposed to increase dmg of spells too when it was his ulti but then they "nerfed it" from ult status)


From http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/
Damage increase applies to summoner spells and items used by Swain.


I have to agree, Swain is really good at what he does. Sure he doesn't fit into every team, but that's fine. He feels kinda OP at times, but currently we have quite a few champs who are like that so in the end he might be just right. Dunno though I don't see/play him enough/at all.

Whoops, normally I try not to double post...
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 22:59:04
March 14 2011 22:56 GMT
#9444
So on an AD carry when I notice they're going for thornmail strat, I'll get LW and thirster ? Okay, need to try.

Thoughts on Bloodrazor?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 22:59:18
March 14 2011 22:58 GMT
#9445
On March 15 2011 07:46 Kaniol wrote:
Wait, does swain's E really increase ignite's damage? I always thought that it increases only dmg of his autoattacks (it was supposed to increase dmg of spells too when it was his ulti but then they "nerfed it" from ult status)


Swain's E increases all sources of damage from Swain. I don't know where you got the idea that it only boosts autoattacks because that's silly and sorta useless. It's always been his E, but they nerfed it from ALL damage to just Swain-damage because they didn't want a focus-down-one-dude metagame.

It's also why some people like DFG on him, though I think he needs AP and survivability more than he needs another nuke. It does give some handy burst damage though.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 23:01:44
March 14 2011 22:58 GMT
#9446
While browsing the red tracker I noticed a New Skins and Bundles thread, clicked on it, saw the names Frozen/Void Nocturne, Leprechaun Veigar, and Regalia Poppy, clicked for pics and the thread was gone on the official forums.

Now it's gone in the tracker too.

edit: wasn't imagining things

http://i.imgur.com/zpfk2.png
http://imgur.com/a/pRx3i
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
March 14 2011 23:07 GMT
#9447
On March 15 2011 07:56 Shikyo wrote:
So on an AD carry when I notice they're going for thornmail strat, I'll get LW and thirster ? Okay, need to try.

Thoughts on Bloodrazor?

Well it depends on the situation. If you are going to stick with AD, then you obviously go for LW and some source of lifesteal should help quite a bit.

If you see the Chainmails coming and can get Bloodrazor quickly then it might be a good idea. Be sure to start with the AD components though so your enemies don't realize what you're doing. You want them to invest in as much armor as possible if you go for Bloodrazor. Malady usually is a good idea after you got a Bloodrazor.
Also if you already have a lot of money invested into AD (including Triforce since the procs are physical) then I wonder if Bloodrazor still makes sense. Don't know, you'd have to do some math if you want to know exactly.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 14 2011 23:18 GMT
#9448
Swain fits onto any team as long as he gets to lane against Shake.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 23:26:53
March 14 2011 23:25 GMT
#9449
On March 15 2011 07:58 phyvo wrote:
While browsing the red tracker I noticed a New Skins and Bundles thread, clicked on it, saw the names Frozen/Void Nocturne, Leprechaun Veigar, and Regalia Poppy, clicked for pics and the thread was gone on the official forums.

Now it's gone in the tracker too.

edit: wasn't imagining things

http://i.imgur.com/zpfk2.png
http://imgur.com/a/pRx3i



That poppy skin was done by a player =[

Slight color changes but it looks a lot like http://leaguecraft.com/skins/2455-white-knight-poppy-v2.xhtml


also by the same artist, i found this to be hilarious:

http://leaguecraft.com/skins/3782-yordle-caitlyn.xhtml

also another tidbit (so many edits), this is the same player that created the pirate katarina skin
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
March 14 2011 23:27 GMT
#9450
On March 15 2011 07:29 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 15:15 r33k wrote:
On March 14 2011 14:52 BloodNinja wrote:
On March 14 2011 13:58 Caller wrote:
[image loading]

here you go


Completely photoshoped. Come on.

Edit- Yet, hilarious at the same time.

Apparently theres quite a few pictures of it from different povs so I wouldn't rush to call it a shoop.


I am 99% sure HSGG said they were shopped on his stream last night.

I watched the whole thing last night and he didn't really say anything about it. He just went whaaaaaaaaaat? and closed it.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 14 2011 23:30 GMT
#9451
I caught it as well, I guess it was a phone you could bring an image up on and they did it and snapped a photo of it.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 23:38:27
March 14 2011 23:38 GMT
#9452
Is it just me or does Kassadin's E sound like he's vomiting on you? No wonder that it gives slow, if I was running at some dude and he randomly started hurling chunks in my direction, I'd slow down. Most probably stop too...
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 14 2011 23:38 GMT
#9453
On March 15 2011 08:25 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 07:58 phyvo wrote:
While browsing the red tracker I noticed a New Skins and Bundles thread, clicked on it, saw the names Frozen/Void Nocturne, Leprechaun Veigar, and Regalia Poppy, clicked for pics and the thread was gone on the official forums.

Now it's gone in the tracker too.

edit: wasn't imagining things

http://i.imgur.com/zpfk2.png
http://imgur.com/a/pRx3i



That poppy skin was done by a player =[

Slight color changes but it looks a lot like http://leaguecraft.com/skins/2455-white-knight-poppy-v2.xhtml


also by the same artist, i found this to be hilarious:

http://leaguecraft.com/skins/3782-yordle-caitlyn.xhtml

also another tidbit (so many edits), this is the same player that created the pirate katarina skin


Actually the skins seem different. The in-game skin has a helmet which covers the top of Poppy's head, whereas the custom skin does not. I do remember the Pirate Kat and the first Morgana skins being user-created though.

That said, how can we get Riot to make this Akali skin a reality: http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=571491
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
March 14 2011 23:40 GMT
#9454
I really hate Bloodrazor, i feel like the only champs that can work it are Kog'Maw and Warwick since they generally run MP runes.

But honestly? 4% reduced by resistance is just a joke, especially since as an AD champ you just aren't going to be having the MP to make it work.

So imo it's Kog and WW only, in all other cases it's a waste of a lot of gold.
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
March 14 2011 23:41 GMT
#9455
They're good on Teemo too.
bellweather
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States404 Posts
March 14 2011 23:49 GMT
#9456
Just want to say thanks to TL and the many champion guides (and of course the contributers) in the subforum; coming back from a 6 month hiatus made easy. <3
A mathematician is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat which isnt' there. -Charles Darwin
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 14 2011 23:58 GMT
#9457
On March 15 2011 08:40 zalz wrote:
I really hate Bloodrazor, i feel like the only champs that can work it are Kog'Maw and Warwick since they generally run MP runes.

But honestly? 4% reduced by resistance is just a joke, especially since as an AD champ you just aren't going to be having the MP to make it work.

So imo it's Kog and WW only, in all other cases it's a waste of a lot of gold.

Last game carried with imba malady/BR/Wits end teemo trolollo
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 00:07:20
March 15 2011 00:04 GMT
#9458
On March 15 2011 08:40 zalz wrote:
But honestly? 4% reduced by resistance is just a joke, especially since as an AD champ you just aren't going to be having the MP to make it work.

4% doesn't sound like a lot until you recognize that against a 2k HP champ, it's effectively ~80 AD. Combined with the 30 AD that it already gives, that's 110+ AD and 40% attack speed on a 3.8k gold item. Even though you won't have the relevant penetration and the damage can't crit, it still has good value when compared to the single-item DPS of BF Sword-based items, simply because the damage amount is so much. It's only when you look at two-or-more-item DPS, or when you look at ability-based damage, where Bloodrazor starts to not look so good (because it doesn't synergize with crit items or ArPen items and doesn't scale into AD-scaling abilities).
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Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 15 2011 00:23 GMT
#9459
On March 15 2011 09:04 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 08:40 zalz wrote:
But honestly? 4% reduced by resistance is just a joke, especially since as an AD champ you just aren't going to be having the MP to make it work.

4% doesn't sound like a lot until you recognize that against a 2k HP champ, it's effectively ~80 AD. Combined with the 30 AD that it already gives, that's 110+ AD and 40% attack speed on a 3.8k gold item. Even though you won't have the relevant penetration and the damage can't crit, it still has good value when compared to the single-item DPS of BF Sword-based items, simply because the damage amount is so much. It's only when you look at two-or-more-item DPS, or when you look at ability-based damage, where Bloodrazor starts to not look so good (because it doesn't synergize with crit items or ArPen items and doesn't scale into AD-scaling abilities).

Malady.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
March 15 2011 00:27 GMT
#9460
On March 15 2011 08:40 zalz wrote:
I really hate Bloodrazor, i feel like the only champs that can work it are Kog'Maw and Warwick since they generally run MP runes.

But honestly? 4% reduced by resistance is just a joke, especially since as an AD champ you just aren't going to be having the MP to make it work.

So imo it's Kog and WW only, in all other cases it's a waste of a lot of gold.


I really like to get BR on AD carries when the enemy is stacking def items. In the lategame where everyone has 2.5k+ HP and a tank has ~4k hp, BR adds a lot of DPS for its price.
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