EPT80% of the time i queue for ranked, i'm stuck with people who can't CS properly, feeds in lane and overall doesn't communicate with the team. I play what fits my team (support/jungler/ap/ad/solo top), i try to be the "leader" of the game and i do well in most cases. But how the fuck do you counter retards? And don't give me any bullshit with "carry harder", cause obviously there's something wrong when you play, say ad carry, go 10-0 or some shit, you ward and try to control the map and make sure nobody makes silly mistakes but you still end up losing because people are morons. I've even tried being nice to people and not flaming them instead telling them what they should do better, but the overall response is "stfu noob l2p". Meh i hate solo queue..
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
80% of the time i queue for ranked, i'm stuck with people who can't CS properly, feeds in lane and overall doesn't communicate with the team. I play what fits my team (support/jungler/ap/ad/solo top), i try to be the "leader" of the game and i do well in most cases. But how the fuck do you counter retards? And don't give me any bullshit with "carry harder", cause obviously there's something wrong when you play, say ad carry, go 10-0 or some shit, you ward and try to control the map and make sure nobody makes silly mistakes but you still end up losing because people are morons. I've even tried being nice to people and not flaming them instead telling them what they should do better, but the overall response is "stfu noob l2p". Meh i hate solo queue.. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
As such, carry harder. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On July 15 2011 23:51 Hynda wrote: if you want adorable, movement speed Amumu is your man. *Waddlewaddlewaddlewaddlewaddlewaddlewaddlewaddlewaddle* Speedy yordles are the best <3 | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On July 16 2011 02:51 Sponkz wrote: How do you carry when the 5th pick troll picks something completely useless when we need say, ad carry or support, and then proceeds to go 0-5 in laning phase with 10 CS? Fyi im at 1350'ish ELO on EU. If you're maintaining your elo that means you're winning half your games. For every crappy player on your team, there's an equally crappy player on the other team, unless you really got unlucky, but that sort of unluckiness generally does not maintain for long stretches of time. If you don't recognize who the crappy player is on their team, you need to carry harder. It's fairly simple. If bot lane is dying, then gank bot lane. etc. etc. You don't need to win significantly more to rise in rating, if that's what your goal is. So that means you're extremely middling, and so you're getting carried some games, getting dragged down other games, and being overall very mediocre. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On July 16 2011 02:51 Sponkz wrote: How do you carry when the 5th pick troll picks something completely useless when we need say, ad carry or support, and then proceeds to go 0-5 in laning phase with 10 CS? Fyi im at 1350'ish ELO on EU. You don't care about his pick because composition doesn't mean anything at 1350 elo. Teamfights aren't organized enough for that. And you hope that your enemies also have a baddie or that it at least evens out over the course of some dozen games. | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gwB4c.jpg) On July 16 2011 02:51 Sponkz wrote: How do you carry when the 5th pick troll picks something completely useless when we need say, ad carry or support, and then proceeds to go 0-5 in laning phase with 10 CS? Fyi im at 1350'ish ELO on EU. It does take a lot of games to get yourself out of ELO hell. It really does happen over a long stretch. Just gotta play more games, as there are a lot of games that are uncarryable. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On July 16 2011 02:51 Sponkz wrote: How do you carry when the 5th pick troll picks something completely useless when we need say, ad carry or support, and then proceeds to go 0-5 in laning phase with 10 CS? Fyi im at 1350'ish ELO on EU. I carried myself to 1600ish with junglers and op shit solo top only pretty much, decided to learn AP/AD carries, dropped all the way to 1300 where I learned a lot new champs. Since riot decided to prolong S1 i decided I want my elo back. Some random things: People suck. Very bad. I play stuff that can abuse that to hell and back. Annie/TF/Malz for mid. The only supports I play at that elo are Taric/Janna, simply because they can roam whenever your lane has a slight advantage and make other lanes win. Actually I find it hardest to carry with solo top champs (their impact comes way too late and they're not changing outcomes in the first 6-11 levels) and AD carries (same issue pretty much). Jungle/Support/AP mid are the strongest imho. What I -really- learned at that elo is to punish mistakes. You have to be the guy that rapes someone simple because he makes so many mistakes, no matter the matchup. Stuff like TF vs Annie suddenly because rape if the Annie has to use Q to lasthit and doesn't save her stuns. Also make sure to punish failpicks on the enemy team. First pick vlad? Snatch that Annie/Malz and rape him. PS: A major thing: Don't argue with people on your team. The attitude you should communicate is "I dont fucking care what you do, I carry anyway." - I had one awesome game with Galio top who rushed thornmail vs Vlad/Akali solo lanes, Udyr jungle and Ashe bot. "Why thornmail?" - "Cause of Udyr/Akali/Ashe? l2p newb lol" was what I got. Our MF rushed swiftboots into phantom dancer. What did I do? Encourage people, make sure they trust my calls, and go 18-4-16 as Annie. tl;dr: Carry harder. | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
tl;dr: Carry harder. This is entirely wrong. If it was an issue of "carrying harder", then why was guardsman bob just in the 1400s? It's an issue of play a shitton more games, and you'll get to the ELO you're supposed to be at. | ||
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TL Blazeraid
566 Posts
On July 16 2011 03:45 APurpleCow wrote: This is entirely wrong. If it was an issue of "carrying harder", then why was guardsman bob just in the 1400s? It's an issue of play a shitton more games, and you'll get to the ELO you're supposed to be at. Bob has 2500 ranked games played. If that's not a shitton, I don't know what is. edit: yes carry harder. Also, at least attempt to lead your team to objectives. If your team has no leader then guess what? That's you. edit2: undouched edit3: Don't expect to raise in elo consistently over 10 games, that's not realistic. If you're not raising elo in 100 games you're at the right elo. | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
On July 16 2011 03:48 TL Blazeraid wrote: This just in: bob has 2500 (yes, two thousand five hundred) ranked games played. If that's not a shitton, I don't know what is. edit: yes carry harder. Also, at least attempt to lead your team to objectives. If your team has no leader then guess what? That's you. Right, and he played a shitton of games after he hit 1400 and got back up to the 1700s-1800s. He still had a streak of bad luck with teammates that he was unable to carry all the way down to the 1400s. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 16 2011 03:54 APurpleCow wrote: Right, and he played a shitton of games after he hit 1400 and got back up to the 1700s-1800s. He still had a streak of bad luck with teammates that he was unable to carry all the way down to the 1400s. Well Jiji got 2400 with like 110-30 second, he obviously wasn't stuck in elo hell for long. It's true though that it's elo hell for most people, as some people simply aren't good enough to completely 1v5, and that shouldn't even be expected of them. | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
On July 16 2011 03:58 Shikyo wrote: Well Jiji got 2400 with like 110-30 second, he obviously wasn't stuck in elo hell for long. It's true though that it's elo hell for most people, as some people simply aren't good enough to completely 1v5, and that shouldn't even be expected of them. Did he duo with another top player? | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On July 16 2011 03:54 APurpleCow wrote: Right, and he played a shitton of games after he hit 1400 and got back up to the 1700s-1800s. He still had a streak of bad luck with teammates that he was unable to carry all the way down to the 1400s. Who says he wasn't incredibly lucky to get to 1700? He had a lucky streak and then the bad luck streak got him back to were he belonged. After 2500 games you are at the skill level you represent. I luv GMB but he hasn't shown any indication that he is vastly out playing the people he is playing against. | ||
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
If he played his best champs every game he'd sit around the 1700-1800 mark pretty steadily. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On July 16 2011 03:54 APurpleCow wrote: Right, and he played a shitton of games after he hit 1400 and got back up to the 1700s-1800s. He still had a streak of bad luck with teammates that he was unable to carry all the way down to the 1400s. Even with bad teammates, almost every game at that Elo is winnable if you carry hard enough. If bigfatjiji (to name a random high Elo player) was playing, you can bet he would carry the crap out of his team. If you don't do that, then you're not carrying as hard as you could be. There really aren't many uncarryable games, just games that you currently aren't good enough to carry in. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On July 16 2011 03:45 APurpleCow wrote: This is entirely wrong. If it was an issue of "carrying harder", then why was guardsman bob just in the 1400s? It's an issue of play a shitton more games, and you'll get to the ELO you're supposed to be at. Have you ever watched guardsman bob? most of the time he plays like total trash and solo pushes without wards and blames his team etc. Definitely noticed there are some games when your team is just worse, but its definitely an issue of carrying harder. I've never met a person who complains about elo hell but actually deserves a significantly higher elo.Usually these people don't do retarded shit all the time but aren't all that good at punishing mistakes or generally making plays to get an advantage. On July 16 2011 03:59 Hynda wrote: Who says he wasn't incredibly lucky to get to 1700? He had a lucky streak and then the bad luck streak got him back to were he belonged. After 2500 games you are at the skill level you represent. I luv GMB but he hasn't shown any indication that he is vastly out playing the people he is playing against. You assume people play at the same level all the time. When he was at 1700 he was playing xin zhao and udyr every game and playing them well, often carrying hard. When he's at 1400 he's playing sivir and expecting to outwin after farming for 30 minutes. I am almost 1900 but I just went 3/10 in solo normal with leona because all I did was troll around all the time. People play well on some days and sometimes the mindset is a big thing. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Lanzoma
Mexico813 Posts
Everybody gets shit games with dcs/afkers/trolls/retards. Deal with it. Abuse the weaknesses of your opponents (everybody has them). Don't throw the game or give up because your team is 1/7 15 minutes in — a strong counterbaron or ace can change the game. Focus on what's in YOUR control, ignore what isn't. Destroy your lane. Don't shit-talk your team. Carry harder. | ||
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