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ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 00:16:07
July 13 2011 00:14 GMT
#20821
Invisibility remake testing:

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=11317491#post11317491

Don't think anyone's posted this yet. Interesting changes that might happen. The idea of removing oracles seems scary though
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 13 2011 00:22 GMT
#20822
On July 13 2011 08:51 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think a lot of people underestimate how diverse and tasteful jiji's music selection is. His music elo is like 1000 above every other streamer.

Not everyone is as hipster as you, Bly. Though yeah most of my music comes from Jiji's last.fm
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
July 13 2011 00:33 GMT
#20823
Link to jiji's last.fm
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
July 13 2011 00:36 GMT
#20824
On July 13 2011 09:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
Link to jiji's last.fm


one guess as to what it is

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.last.fm/user/bigfatjiji
it's my first day
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
July 13 2011 00:37 GMT
#20825
On July 13 2011 09:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
Link to jiji's last.fm


http://www.lastfm.de/user/bigfatjiji
Sometimes I feel like all he listens to is alternative Hiphop and 90s drum and bass

Here'a mine if anyone wants to friend me :3 http://www.lastfm.de/user/Woonylol
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
July 13 2011 00:38 GMT
#20826
On July 13 2011 08:59 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 07:50 APurpleCow wrote:
8.1% CDR vs 5.85% CDR. that 2.25% is going to close the gap?

The typical setup for CDR glyphs includes 9/0/21 masteries, so you have 9% from there. Add 6% from runes and your end up with 15%. Blue Buff at lvl 18 is 25%, CDR from items comes in 5% packages. How are those 2.25% going to make a difference? At best you can go 7 flat 2 scaling CDR glyphs to close the 0.15% gap to 40%. But that's merely cosmetic.


For each CDR glyph I don't need because I'm taking CDR/level instead, I can throw in an mr or mr/level glyph.

Or you could just run all MR or MR/level, because there are very few champs that want CDR badly enough to rune for it, and at the same time can't just cap it off with blue buff. Vladimir is the only one that I can think of off the top of my head (CDR boots + visage + 9% from masteries + 6% from runes).


>>say CDR runes are much better than CDR/level
>>be wrong
>>instead of admitting it, say not to rune CDR

real?

Ryze, Zilean, Soraka, Sona off the top of my head.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 00:41:05
July 13 2011 00:40 GMT
#20827
Isn't blue + cdr masteries + flat cdr already 39.XX% CDR?

I always look at the overlap level when looking at per level vs flat runes and cdr per level is one of the highest (this is a bad thing).
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 13 2011 00:43 GMT
#20828
On July 13 2011 07:26 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 06:59 Two_DoWn wrote:
My first runepage was armpen, mp5/lvl, cdr, health. Good for everyone but energy and manaless champs since even mages can make use of armpen when last hitting.

IMO the list of needs:
1- armpen reds
2- armor yellows
3- health quints
4- mr/lvl blues
5- mpen reds
6- mp5/yellows

After that you can see what you like the best and explore your options from there.


That list makes it a bit easier. I already have 9 of each mpen and apen reds, and I also have armour yellows. For the others, I will begin saving up.
Thanks.

Also, Gtrsrs, do you think you can update the shen guide? It seems a bit outdated ._.


do you want me to just replace the OP with "this champ is real bad now, don't play him"? cause that's the only viable way to play shen right now
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
July 13 2011 00:48 GMT
#20829
don't say it man, it hurts too much
it's my first day
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 13 2011 00:49 GMT
#20830
On July 13 2011 09:37 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 09:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
Link to jiji's last.fm


http://www.lastfm.de/user/bigfatjiji
Sometimes I feel like all he listens to is alternative Hiphop and 90s drum and bass

Here'a mine if anyone wants to friend me :3 http://www.lastfm.de/user/Woonylol


german version >=[

change to .com
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
July 13 2011 00:50 GMT
#20831
On July 13 2011 09:40 Craton wrote:
Isn't blue + cdr masteries + flat cdr already 39.XX% CDR?


blue+CDR masteries is 34%.

however, not every champion who wants 40% CDR will also want 9 in offense.

not every champion who wants 40% CDR will need blue to hit it, and the blue can be used better on other champs on team.

every champion who wants 40% CDR will benefit from having extra MR.

I always look at the overlap level when looking at per level vs flat runes and cdr per level is one of the highest (this is a bad thing)


this is mostly irrelevant in terms of CDR. nobody cards if you start with 12% CDR instead of 6%. what's important is that you hit 40%. this occurs after you get a CDR item or two, at which point you're a high enough level that CDR/level compares very well with CDR.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 13 2011 00:57 GMT
#20832
On July 13 2011 09:14 ketchup wrote:
Invisibility remake testing:

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=11317491#post11317491

Don't think anyone's posted this yet. Interesting changes that might happen. The idea of removing oracles seems scary though


Hate spike is now awesome (for me, at least). Evelynn now has Champion prioritizing Lurker Spines. This makes her lane less bad

ahmg lurkers in LoL but no lurkers in sc2 =[
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 13 2011 01:05 GMT
#20833
On July 13 2011 09:37 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 09:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
Link to jiji's last.fm


http://www.lastfm.de/user/bigfatjiji

Can pretty much be summarized with this
Loop it for 10 hours and you get jiji's playlist.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 08:09:27
July 13 2011 01:31 GMT
#20834
On July 13 2011 09:38 APurpleCow wrote:
Ryze, Zilean, Soraka, Sona off the top of my head.

Ryze - Gets 39% CDR off FHeart + Masteries + Q passive. You can rune for that last 1% if you really care.

Zilean - Is a blue buff caster and needs neither runes nor items for 40% CDR. AP/lvl blues, and blue elixir lategame if you need to cap out for a big fight.

Soraka - AP > CDR. AP/lvl blues.

Sona - Don't play her so can't comment

EDIT: My argument isn't that CDR/lvl is overall better than CDR. It's that there's a pretty small subset that you want either on, and those few like Vlad don't need that last 2% because having 6% caps them.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 01:35:21
July 13 2011 01:35 GMT
#20835
On July 13 2011 10:05 r33k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 09:37 Woony wrote:
On July 13 2011 09:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
Link to jiji's last.fm


http://www.lastfm.de/user/bigfatjiji

Can pretty much be summarized with this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTnM4jd-P1Y Loop it for 10 hours and you get jiji's playlist.


hahahahaha

Yeah, not the music I exactly would enjoy ; [
Moderator<:3-/-<
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 13 2011 01:48 GMT
#20836
On July 13 2011 10:05 r33k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 09:37 Woony wrote:
On July 13 2011 09:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
Link to jiji's last.fm


http://www.lastfm.de/user/bigfatjiji

Can pretty much be summarized with this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTnM4jd-P1Y Loop it for 10 hours and you get jiji's playlist.


I'm not listening to anything like that right now. It's some technoy trance stuff
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
July 13 2011 01:57 GMT
#20837
I bought CDR runes for my first level 30 account, but after getting two more accounts up there I think it was a bad choice. There are very few champions for whom CDR runes are the best choice, and "CDR runes work on everyone" isn't compelling when 1) they are the most expensive blues, and 2) you'll have to buy the other runes later anyways and buying CDR just delays your rune build.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 13 2011 02:17 GMT
#20838
streaming: http://www.own3d.tv/live/82457
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
July 13 2011 02:26 GMT
#20839
On July 13 2011 11:17 Mogwai wrote:
streaming: http://www.own3d.tv/live/82457


oooshit, rockin DAT beard, the bear approves sir
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 02:31:29
July 13 2011 02:30 GMT
#20840
On July 13 2011 09:43 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 07:26 57 Corvette wrote:
On July 13 2011 06:59 Two_DoWn wrote:
My first runepage was armpen, mp5/lvl, cdr, health. Good for everyone but energy and manaless champs since even mages can make use of armpen when last hitting.

IMO the list of needs:
1- armpen reds
2- armor yellows
3- health quints
4- mr/lvl blues
5- mpen reds
6- mp5/yellows

After that you can see what you like the best and explore your options from there.


That list makes it a bit easier. I already have 9 of each mpen and apen reds, and I also have armour yellows. For the others, I will begin saving up.
Thanks.

Also, Gtrsrs, do you think you can update the shen guide? It seems a bit outdated ._.


do you want me to just replace the OP with "this champ is real bad now, don't play him"? cause that's the only viable way to play shen right now


i don't think he's garbage in solo queue, obviously there would be better choices but who plays solo queue to be optimal all the time anyway? If you're good with him you're still gonna way way outperform people running stronger characters like jarvan
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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