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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 12 2011 21:52 GMT
#20801
On July 13 2011 06:47 Tooplark wrote:
The biggest draw of flat CDR runes imo is that they work on every hero. They aren't optimal on 95% of heroes, but if you're just starting a runepage they're a good pick.

If you wanted a set of good-on-everyone runes, flat MR or MR/lvl are good on everyone (and likely better than flat CDR on many), and cost 1/4 as much as flat CDR.
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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
July 12 2011 21:55 GMT
#20802
Hotshot stream has been pure comedy gold for the past 3 hours or so
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 12 2011 21:58 GMT
#20803
On July 13 2011 06:55 Woony wrote:
Hotshot stream has been pure comedy gold for the past 3 hours or so

It's been like that for the last 3 months.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 12 2011 21:59 GMT
#20804
My first runepage was armpen, mp5/lvl, cdr, health. Good for everyone but energy and manaless champs since even mages can make use of armpen when last hitting.

IMO the list of needs:
1- armpen reds
2- armor yellows
3- health quints
4- mr/lvl blues
5- mpen reds
6- mp5/yellows

After that you can see what you like the best and explore your options from there.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 22:28:10
July 12 2011 22:26 GMT
#20805
On July 13 2011 06:59 Two_DoWn wrote:
My first runepage was armpen, mp5/lvl, cdr, health. Good for everyone but energy and manaless champs since even mages can make use of armpen when last hitting.

IMO the list of needs:
1- armpen reds
2- armor yellows
3- health quints
4- mr/lvl blues
5- mpen reds
6- mp5/yellows

After that you can see what you like the best and explore your options from there.


That list makes it a bit easier. I already have 9 of each mpen and apen reds, and I also have armour yellows. For the others, I will begin saving up.
Thanks.

Also, Gtrsrs, do you think you can update the shen guide? It seems a bit outdated ._.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
July 12 2011 22:29 GMT
#20806
On July 13 2011 07:26 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 06:59 Two_DoWn wrote:
My first runepage was armpen, mp5/lvl, cdr, health. Good for everyone but energy and manaless champs since even mages can make use of armpen when last hitting.

IMO the list of needs:
1- armpen reds
2- armor yellows
3- health quints
4- mr/lvl blues
5- mpen reds
6- mp5/yellows

After that you can see what you like the best and explore your options from there.


That list makes it a bit easier. I already have 9 of each mpen and apen reds, and I also have armour yellows. For the others, I will begin saving up.
Thanks.

Also, Gtrsrs, do you think you can update the shen guide? It seems a bit outdated ._.

movespeed quints seem pretty good on everyone imo
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 22:35:34
July 12 2011 22:34 GMT
#20807
Don't get CDR/lvl. Not worth it. Flat CDR is straight up better in most situations, and even those are niche runes.


I highly disagree with flat CDR over CDR/level. When I'm putting CDR runes on my champions, it's to close the gap and hit 40% CDR later in the game. Flat CDR isn't going to do that until I get like two CDR items, at which point CDR/level will have caught up.

I also wouldn't get health quints.
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 12 2011 22:36 GMT
#20808
On July 13 2011 06:58 r33k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 06:55 Woony wrote:
Hotshot stream has been pure comedy gold for the past 3 hours or so

It's been like that for the last 3 months.


I agree; loved when he played with ManyReason. Too funny..

I think HSGG's stream is the only one I can seriously wach. bigfatjiji's is good for gameplay but that's usually for background while I work or something.
derp
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 22:46:23
July 12 2011 22:40 GMT
#20809
On July 13 2011 06:55 Woony wrote:
Hotshot stream has been pure comedy gold for the past 3 hours or so

He's going too far imo. I'd actually consider it intentional feeding in some of the cases.

"Why is the last pick always trolling?"
While doing nothing but trading single Shivs at random enemies for 80-100% of his own health.

On July 13 2011 07:34 APurpleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
Don't get CDR/lvl. Not worth it. Flat CDR is straight up better in most situations, and even those are niche runes.


I highly disagree with flat CDR over CDR/level. When I'm putting CDR runes on my champions, it's to close the gap and hit 40% CDR later in the game. Flat CDR isn't going to do that until I get like two CDR items, at which point CDR/level will have caught up.

I also wouldn't get health quints.

8.1% CDR vs 5.85% CDR. that 2.25% is going to close the gap?

The typical setup for CDR glyphs includes 9/0/21 masteries, so you have 9% from there. Add 6% from runes and your end up with 15%. Blue Buff at lvl 18 is 25%, CDR from items comes in 5% packages. How are those 2.25% going to make a difference? At best you can go 7 flat 2 scaling CDR glyphs to close the 0.15% gap to 40%. But that's merely cosmetic.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 12 2011 22:43 GMT
#20810
On July 13 2011 07:26 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 06:59 Two_DoWn wrote:
My first runepage was armpen, mp5/lvl, cdr, health. Good for everyone but energy and manaless champs since even mages can make use of armpen when last hitting.

IMO the list of needs:
1- armpen reds
2- armor yellows
3- health quints
4- mr/lvl blues
5- mpen reds
6- mp5/yellows

After that you can see what you like the best and explore your options from there.


That list makes it a bit easier. I already have 9 of each mpen and apen reds, and I also have armour yellows. For the others, I will begin saving up.
Thanks.

Also, Gtrsrs, do you think you can update the shen guide? It seems a bit outdated ._.

#1 shen guide is don't play shen.

i like armor quints. 'cause i like to play champs that harass a lot and armor quints make minions do no damage to you :D
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
July 12 2011 22:48 GMT
#20811
On July 13 2011 07:26 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 06:59 Two_DoWn wrote:
My first runepage was armpen, mp5/lvl, cdr, health. Good for everyone but energy and manaless champs since even mages can make use of armpen when last hitting.

IMO the list of needs:
1- armpen reds
2- armor yellows
3- health quints
4- mr/lvl blues
5- mpen reds
6- mp5/yellows

After that you can see what you like the best and explore your options from there.


That list makes it a bit easier. I already have 9 of each mpen and apen reds, and I also have armour yellows. For the others, I will begin saving up.
Thanks.

Also, Gtrsrs, do you think you can update the shen guide? It seems a bit outdated ._.


I think most of it is still very accurate, it's just he isn't very good anymore no matter what you do item wise.
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
July 12 2011 22:50 GMT
#20812
8.1% CDR vs 5.85% CDR. that 2.25% is going to close the gap?

The typical setup for CDR glyphs includes 9/0/21 masteries, so you have 9% from there. Add 6% from runes and your end up with 15%. Blue Buff at lvl 18 is 25%, CDR from items comes in 5% packages. How are those 2.25% going to make a difference? At best you can go 7 flat 2 scaling CDR glyphs to close the 0.15% gap to 40%. But that's merely cosmetic.


For each CDR glyph I don't need because I'm taking CDR/level instead, I can throw in an mr or mr/level glyph.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 12 2011 22:50 GMT
#20813
In b4 "This is my favorite champion on the citadel"

http://videogamewriters.com/mass-effect-3-lead-gameplay-designer-joins-league-of-legends-team-16178


also heimerdinger might be really busy doing calibrations
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
July 12 2011 22:58 GMT
#20814
Panth buffs/remake inc!

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=11314898#post11314898
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 04:29:41
July 12 2011 23:23 GMT
#20815
Finally got back, long day at work.

Replay for Southlight: This is a game of myself (Jarman) and my girlfriend (Kogmaw) dual queuing.

Edit: this was the only good replay i had, when i checked the download link it was corrupted. taking it off
BW4life! Jaedong ~ Savior ~ Shine ; "drowning sorrows in late night infomercials" - bnYsooch
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 12 2011 23:30 GMT
#20816
Well tbh I picked up CDR/lvl because flat CDR was 820 ip per rune which is ridonkulous.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
July 12 2011 23:47 GMT
#20817
On July 13 2011 07:58 WirelessWaffle wrote:
Panth buffs/remake inc!

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=11314898#post11314898


Someone tell smash to post in there. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
July 12 2011 23:51 GMT
#20818
On July 13 2011 07:50 Phrost wrote:
In b4 "This is my favorite champion on the citadel"

http://videogamewriters.com/mass-effect-3-lead-gameplay-designer-joins-league-of-legends-team-16178


Holy Fucking Shit.. CHRISTINA NORMAN joining RIOT?!?!?!?

She's a fucking legend in the software engineering world. Pretty much the Hilary Clinton of the gaming industry.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 12 2011 23:51 GMT
#20819
I think a lot of people underestimate how diverse and tasteful jiji's music selection is. His music elo is like 1000 above every other streamer.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 12 2011 23:59 GMT
#20820
On July 13 2011 07:50 APurpleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
8.1% CDR vs 5.85% CDR. that 2.25% is going to close the gap?

The typical setup for CDR glyphs includes 9/0/21 masteries, so you have 9% from there. Add 6% from runes and your end up with 15%. Blue Buff at lvl 18 is 25%, CDR from items comes in 5% packages. How are those 2.25% going to make a difference? At best you can go 7 flat 2 scaling CDR glyphs to close the 0.15% gap to 40%. But that's merely cosmetic.


For each CDR glyph I don't need because I'm taking CDR/level instead, I can throw in an mr or mr/level glyph.

Or you could just run all MR or MR/level, because there are very few champs that want CDR badly enough to rune for it, and at the same time can't just cap it off with blue buff. Vladimir is the only one that I can think of off the top of my head (CDR boots + visage + 9% from masteries + 6% from runes).
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