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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On July 13 2011 13:19 Craton wrote: Riot also wants to remove CV, so I don't think they have the philosophy of more map vision in mind. IF I remember correctly I dont think riot wants to remove cv, just change it. | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
So from what I can gather, the gist of it is this: pressure by presence and threat, actually pressure things and get shit done, and have better reactions to creep pushes and vulnerable heroes. I don't remember my route that game - generally I start at blue, did I not go there that game? Might have been doing something new. -_- Thanks again. | ||
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Craton
United States17233 Posts
On July 13 2011 13:27 Two_DoWn wrote: IF I remember correctly I dont think riot wants to remove cv, just change it. They said something akin to wanting to gut it. I don't remember the exact phrase used, though. | ||
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c.Deadly
United States545 Posts
On July 13 2011 13:37 Craton wrote: They said something akin to wanting to gut it. I don't remember the exact phrase used, though. It was Morello who said something to the effect of "We are nerfing CV into the ground" but I can't find the screenshot. http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=813669 That thread was in response | ||
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Southlight
United States11761 Posts
On July 13 2011 13:27 HyperionDreamer wrote: So from what I can gather, the gist of it is this: pressure by presence and threat, actually pressure things and get shit done, and have better reactions to creep pushes and vulnerable heroes. I don't remember my route that game - generally I start at blue, did I not go there that game? Might have been doing something new. -_- Thanks again. You went blue -> wolf -> minigolem then all the way back to wraith and then all the way back up to top for a gank. Then you followed by wasting time attacking turret, then killed a few lane creep (stealing from your teammates both of whom were alive) and then proceeded to walk allllllllll the way across to kill the wolves before finally backing. Your first Lizard was at like 20, which is somewhat mind-boggling. | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
On July 13 2011 14:17 Southlight wrote: You went blue -> wolf -> minigolem then all the way back to wraith and then all the way back up to top for a gank. Then you followed by wasting time attacking turret, then killed a few lane creep (stealing from your teammates both of whom were alive) and then proceeded to walk allllllllll the way across to kill the wolves before finally backing. Your first Lizard was at like 20, which is somewhat mind-boggling. That's weird, I'm normally way more efficient than that..... Was there a counter jungle or CV in the air before? A lot of the time I get nervous going for blue when there's someone chillin out near the buff or I have no guards, since my health goes pretty low if I don't get a leash. I think it generally drops below 100 since I don't have a ton of armor on my runepage - generally apen marks, armor yellows, flat mr glyphs, flad ad quints - bought those pretty early and didn't really find a need to change them up for jarman. Regardless, I'll improve 100% from considering those things... The reason I pushed that tower after getting the double kill was that I thought with 3 full health champs we could take it down. I guess level 4 is way too early to take down a tower. | ||
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Southlight
United States11761 Posts
You got blue buff fine, you just didn't get red buff forever. | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
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Southlight
United States11761 Posts
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
On July 13 2011 13:09 Two_DoWn wrote: Right now, the only counter to a late game oracles is to kill it, which means engaging in a fight that you may not want and diverting focus to get rid of it. Otherwise warding is impossible. Remove uncertainty by giving map vision, teams move more freely, the late game doenst drag on as much. okay best idea ever: you put a bunch of wards close together ( like a LOT ) and hope that they don't come as 5 to spend time clearing them. hopefully its on like a support and the carries are like fuck this and leave to farm because they think they're cool. so you pick off the support ( getting rid of the oracles also ) and then you can 5v4! | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
in the words of mogwai, it's too tired-o'clock. im out. ^_^ | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
Oracles is pretty darn strong though, put it on a tank or low priority target and you're guaranteed to have that oracles be very "worth it." They should put either A. a timer on it, or B. make it a buff like blue buff or red buff (it gets transferred to killer). | ||
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Qualm
721 Posts
On July 13 2011 12:01 Mogwai wrote: I'm already on CLG and solomid did it go black for anyone else? I think that was just you, but not sure =\. Wait... You're SmashGizmo? mind = blown | ||
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 13 2011 14:34 HyperionDreamer wrote: I need to get a bit more armor on my runepage or take more defensive masteries, since if i go blue - wolves - wraiths - red than I get way too low, wraiths are a bitch to get for me without waiting for my smite.... Don't most Jungle Jarvans run 21 defense? | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
huehuehue | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On July 13 2011 07:34 APurpleCow wrote: I highly disagree with flat CDR over CDR/level. When I'm putting CDR runes on my champions, it's to close the gap and hit 40% CDR later in the game. Flat CDR isn't going to do that until I get like two CDR items, at which point CDR/level will have caught up. On July 13 2011 07:50 APurpleCow wrote: For each CDR glyph I don't need because I'm taking CDR/level instead, I can throw in an mr or mr/level glyph. That's 2 glyphs you can free up. 3 MR or whatever that is at lvl 18 with MR/lvl. Compared to potentially having 40% CDR with just CDR boots and a Kindlegem or a Blue Elixier - WAY before you hit lvl 18 (which is the point when you will hit 6% CDR from runes since you squeeze 2 MR runes in). If you don't have your 40% CDR build set up during midgame (again, WAY before you hit lvl 18), there's hardly a point in using runes for it. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On July 13 2011 14:01 c.Deadly wrote: It was Morello who said something to the effect of "We are nerfing CV into the ground" but I can't find the screenshot. http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=813669 That thread was in response Think its there way of encouraging more people to ward. That and they don't like the fact that its standard for a support to get. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
It would still allow you to spot if the enemy team is doing dragon/baron, just not the incredible combat bonus that it currently provides by taking brushes and corners out of the equation. | ||
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