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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-27 04:30:19
April 27 2015 04:29 GMT
#261
I've watched SC2, LoL, Dota2, FGC, Smash, CS:GO, BW, some Quake. They are all fairly different from each other.

Not sure if I'd directly compare any of them.
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
April 27 2015 04:31 GMT
#262
true, each game definitely has its own merits
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nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
April 27 2015 04:31 GMT
#263
On April 27 2015 13:26 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 13:26 nikj wrote:
On April 27 2015 13:22 kingjames01 wrote:
I've heard that DotA and/or LoL is better.


I feel like LoL's LCS production is some of the best out there.

i watched an lcs thing a few weeks ago, the production is top notch, but i think hots as a game is more entertaining to watch.


I agree that was really fun to watch. And it seems like through all the hate, a lot of people who watched on ESPN who had no clue what it was enjoyed it as well.

Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
April 27 2015 04:33 GMT
#264
Tasteless was on fire tonight - it's been a long while since I have been so hyped watching a game!
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
April 27 2015 04:35 GMT
#265
All the casters were amazing, for all the shit some people on twitter were giving esports on TV, no one had anything but good things to say about them. Tasteless was a highlight of that of course.

I'm making a blog or something about all of this, it should be interesting.

About the games, as much as I like sc2, this was a better game to show on live TV I think.

Also probably better than LoL or Dota since matches aren't that long and so events are shorter.
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ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
April 27 2015 04:36 GMT
#266
On April 27 2015 13:33 Ghostcom wrote:
Tasteless was on fire tonight - it's been a long while since I have been so hyped watching a game!


Ive never seen Tasteless screaming so much like today
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Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
April 27 2015 04:38 GMT
#267
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Artosis favoriting that ahaha.
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10091 Posts
April 27 2015 04:39 GMT
#268
On April 27 2015 13:35 [Phantom] wrote:
All the casters were amazing, for all the shit some people on twitter were giving esports on TV, no one had anything but good things to say about them. Tasteless was a highlight of that of course.

I'm making a blog or something about all of this, it should be interesting.

About the games, as much as I like sc2, this was a better game to show on live TV I think.

Also probably better than LoL or Dota since matches aren't that long and so events are shorter.

im ready for the feels
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-27 04:44:36
April 27 2015 04:39 GMT
#269
On April 27 2015 13:26 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 13:26 nikj wrote:
On April 27 2015 13:22 kingjames01 wrote:
I've heard that DotA and/or LoL is better.


I feel like LoL's LCS production is some of the best out there.

i watched an lcs thing a few weeks ago, the production is top notch, but i think hots as a game is more entertaining to watch.


The first time I watched a competitive MOBA game was one of the large tournaments for DotA2. I don't remember what it was called but I think it was the yearly tournament or something. The prize pool was really large is pretty much all I remember.

I have never watched a competitive LoL game, but since I started playing Heroes of the Storm, I got curious about LoL. I once tuned into Hafu playing it on her stream. I watched her stand beside a tower for about 10 minutes holding off an opponent, and then every now and then move down into the water to shoot someone and then run back. When I opened my eyes, the stream was over.

I've been watching eSports since I found Korean BW in 2006, and so I've witnessed a lot of big moments, highs and lows. Maybe I just don't understand LoL or DotA, but they're definitely not approachable for someone who just wants to tune in and doesn't know what's going on; someone like me.

Contrast that with watching a televised contest that I don't know anything about, for example darts or dogs running obstacle courses. At least when I stop for a moment to watch, I can intuitively guess what's going on. The competitors are obviously very skilled and their immediate objective is clear.

I don't know anything about rugby, but I've watched a few minutes here and there. The same thing can be applied. I know absolutely nothing about competition at the highest-level, or strategies that span the whole game, but I can at least work out that players are working hard to move the ball across a scoring line.

When I watch a player huddle next to a tower for 10 minutes at a time, I can only surmise that the tower needs to be defended for some reason. Maybe points? I don't know.

When I watch Heroes of the Storm, I don't know much about the game, but I can see people dying all the time. There seems to be a lot of action, and it's clear within a few minutes that the ultimate goal is the Core.

I know now that LoL has the same objective, but I couldn't tell just by tuning in for a few minutes.

Edit: This isn't to say that LoL or DotA do not deserve to be watched. My point is that for a total beginner like me, I couldn't join into the middle of a LoL or DotA broadcast and understand what I'm seeing. If that's the case, I'll probably change what I'm watching or like in the case I described above, fall asleep.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Luiwtf
Profile Joined January 2011
England217 Posts
April 27 2015 04:41 GMT
#270
That was actually pretty enjoyable, definitely the most I've enjoyed watching an eSport tournament since pre-WCS GSL. Very entertaining games in the final, and Tasteless was awesome :D.

If they want to continue with the TV bullshit they really have to fix the lack of information on the UI and the availability outside of NA (while that's easy with streaming on Twitch, it probably won't be easy to convince ESPN to allow it).
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
April 27 2015 04:45 GMT
#271
The first time I watched a competitive MOBA game was one of the large tournaments for DotA2. I don't remember what it was called but I think it was the yearly tournament or something. The prize pool was really large is pretty much all I remember.

yeah my first time was watching The International. can't remember if it was 1 or 2. I loved it, it was incredible. but I never got into dota2 after that. but it was a heckuva tournament experience to watch it.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 27 2015 04:45 GMT
#272
So how was it guys? Is this gonna be the final nail in the coffin for SC2? Seems like a lot of people enjoyed this much more, even tastosis
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
April 27 2015 04:47 GMT
#273
The other thing too: I actually attempted to learn about LoL as I watched it. I made an honest attempt, and did some quick google searches, as well as asking the chat.

However, the chat was really chaotic and the responses (understably) were not helpful, to say the least. The google searches came up with resources but they were obviously targetted at people who knew the basics.

Neither of those helped.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44993 Posts
April 27 2015 04:50 GMT
#274
On April 27 2015 13:38 Valiver wrote:
[image loading]
Artosis favoriting that ahaha.


I love this :D
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
April 27 2015 04:50 GMT
#275
On April 27 2015 13:45 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
The first time I watched a competitive MOBA game was one of the large tournaments for DotA2. I don't remember what it was called but I think it was the yearly tournament or something. The prize pool was really large is pretty much all I remember.

yeah my first time was watching The International. can't remember if it was 1 or 2. I loved it, it was incredible. but I never got into dota2 after that. but it was a heckuva tournament experience to watch it.


YES! The International! I actually enjoyed watching the tournament. I obviously didn't understand the significance of the bans and picks, but I could hear the crowd react whenever something important was happening.

Because of that tournament, I actually downloaded DotA2 from Steam, but I never ended up sticking to it. I didn't understand enough about the "standard" purchases or whatever they're called so the learning curve ended up being too steep for someone with very little time to invest.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
ClanRH.TV
Profile Joined July 2010
United States462 Posts
April 27 2015 04:52 GMT
#276
I have a legitimate question if anyone has the prowess to answer it... What were the viewership totals for the Grandfinals of the heroes of the dorm tournament on ESPN? Just interested to see how much interest the tournament actually generated as it was like Twitch (Where you can see how many people are watching at any given time). If anyone is able to figure this out say later tonight or tomorrow and would post back to to thread, please do so.
"Don't take life too seriously because you'll never get out alive."
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
April 27 2015 04:53 GMT
#277
On April 27 2015 13:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So how was it guys? Is this gonna be the final nail in the coffin for SC2? Seems like a lot of people enjoyed this much more, even tastosis

IMO it was good for all esports. CSGO has been on TV here and both are pretty easy to watch. SC2 is a different game and not going to die because another is easier for the masses (to watch).
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 27 2015 04:55 GMT
#278
On April 27 2015 13:53 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 13:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So how was it guys? Is this gonna be the final nail in the coffin for SC2? Seems like a lot of people enjoyed this much more, even tastosis

IMO it was good for all esports. CSGO has been on TV here and both are pretty easy to watch. SC2 is a different game and not going to die because another is easier for the masses (to watch).

I would entirely disagree, but okay
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
April 27 2015 05:01 GMT
#279
On April 27 2015 13:36 ivancype wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 13:33 Ghostcom wrote:
Tasteless was on fire tonight - it's been a long while since I have been so hyped watching a game!


Ive never seen Tasteless screaming so much like today


I have some old BW VODs that you might be interested in....
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
April 27 2015 05:11 GMT
#280
On April 27 2015 13:55 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 13:53 y0su wrote:
On April 27 2015 13:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So how was it guys? Is this gonna be the final nail in the coffin for SC2? Seems like a lot of people enjoyed this much more, even tastosis

IMO it was good for all esports. CSGO has been on TV here and both are pretty easy to watch. SC2 is a different game and not going to die because another is easier for the masses (to watch).

I would entirely disagree, but okay


StarCraft is another game that is better for the initiated. I love StarCraft, and have been watching since even before the SC2GG guys started doing their duo/trio/quad casts! However, if I didn't have that previous knowledge to draw on, and I just randomly tuned into a StarCraft 2 game, it wouldn't be as exciting.

In those crucial few minutes where my attention has to be captivated, I'd be able to work out that it's a 1 on 1 contest where the competitors are building armies to attack each other, but that's about it.

I think that's where Korean BW has the advantage. Just at a casual glance, it's obvious that what is being displayed is extremely difficult, and there's constant action across a large field of play. The Korean announcers, although I do not understand a single word that they're saying, are so enthusiastic about what they're describing, that it helps me to stay for a few minutes longer.

StarCraft 2 is a little more tricky for a person with no prior knowledge. The main factors are the same as BW, so there are appealing qualities to it. However, there are large parts of the game where nothing seems to be happening. At the end of these phases of quiet calm, there's punctuated action, but it ends quite abruptly.

Now, of course, if you understand long-term strategies, such as build orders or unusual timings, then the excitement level goes up. You are watching to see if an opponent has successfully executed a strategy that is only familiar to expert viewers.

Honestly, I don't know enough about Heroes of the Storm to understand timings, talent choices, hero picks and counter picks. However, when I'm watching a stream or Heroes of the Dorm, I can put those issues aside and just watch for the action. I'm basically watching at the lowest level and AM STILL ENTERTAINED.

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