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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
April 27 2015 08:39 GMT
#301
On April 27 2015 14:59 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 14:58 kingjames01 wrote:
On April 27 2015 14:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On April 27 2015 14:48 Ghostcom wrote:
On April 27 2015 14:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On April 27 2015 14:30 Ghostcom wrote:
Stop taking the success or failure of games you like so personal. Seriously, this is not the first time you have been so distraught about SC2 - it is really not good for you. Honestly, why do you care about how big the scene is? As long as you can find games when you log in that should really be enough. You play games for the fun of it - not because they are the most popular (if that was the case you really should be playing american football/actual football/golf/tennis).

I care about how big the scene is because I care about longevity. I care because I think SC2 is the most interesting, most challenging and most worthy game of the title of 'esports' there is. And yet nothing goes right for it. Its not about popularity so much as its about survival, and were not doing that right now


What are you even talking about with "survival"? A games "survival" is dictated by whether or not people play it - not by how popular it is. There are still people who play AoE II, so as long as you log in and play a game every now and then SC II will also "survive".

A pro scene and a few dedicated fans are a world apart. Sure, SC2 will always have players, but will have a pro scene in a few years? I seriously doubt it, and that's honestly what I'm more interested in.


The honest truth about a pro-scene:

If you want a pro-scene, then there has to be money. If there is no money, then there will be no top-tier competitors.

If you want money, then you need viewers.

If you want viewers, then you have to have high retention or alternatively a large base of curious people to draw from.


that's exactly what I'm saying though. we need this, and we dont' have it so we'll be ded before dinner. the future of the sc2 proscene is very limited.


broodwar still has a pro-scene. As long as there are people who care, a game can't really die. It might not always be at the level you want, or as popular as you want, but don't be fatalistic. SC2 is not going to die. Take the passion, and channel it into more passion. If there are only 20 other fans, then so be it! There are fighting game lans where the participation caps out at 8 people and all of 30 viewers show up. Is their game dead? No! People remain passionate! A game dies, truly dies, when no one plays it again. That's not going to happen to SC2. The rise of heroes is not the demise of starcraft, they're not "stealing" fans, and in the end, the fans are *all* that matters.
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Holloworb
Profile Joined November 2011
Norway345 Posts
April 27 2015 11:20 GMT
#302
How many viewers did the finals end up having?
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
April 27 2015 12:32 GMT
#303
On April 27 2015 16:52 lestye wrote:
So now that this event is over, do you guys think Blizzard should keep investing in this collegiate stuff? I am still not sure how I feel about this event when it was first announced because Blizzard was putting money into the collegiate/casualer scene, and not "pros". I'm thinking this is because they dont want to give out actual money ( as opposed to scholarships) when the game isnt even out yet, like how Hearthstone & Hots debut at Blizzcon has no prize money, and it would be unfair I guess?

It's already May, and Blizzcon is in 6 months, Between release and Blizzcon is 5, so I wonder if we're going to see some sort of tournament announced since they seem to want to push this hard.


Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 14:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On April 27 2015 14:48 Ghostcom wrote:
On April 27 2015 14:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On April 27 2015 14:30 Ghostcom wrote:
Stop taking the success or failure of games you like so personal. Seriously, this is not the first time you have been so distraught about SC2 - it is really not good for you. Honestly, why do you care about how big the scene is? As long as you can find games when you log in that should really be enough. You play games for the fun of it - not because they are the most popular (if that was the case you really should be playing american football/actual football/golf/tennis).

I care about how big the scene is because I care about longevity. I care because I think SC2 is the most interesting, most challenging and most worthy game of the title of 'esports' there is. And yet nothing goes right for it. Its not about popularity so much as its about survival, and were not doing that right now


What are you even talking about with "survival"? A games "survival" is dictated by whether or not people play it - not by how popular it is. There are still people who play AoE II, so as long as you log in and play a game every now and then SC II will also "survive".

A pro scene and a few dedicated fans are a world apart. Sure, SC2 will always have players, but will have a pro scene in a few years? I seriously doubt it, and that's honestly what I'm more interested in.

I think it will. The biggest problem isn't if SC2 will have a pro scene, will it have a pro foreign scene? The foreign scene seems so weak .


Collegiate teams dominate the scene for several games, so I don't think it's a problem at all.

Kids winning tuition was pretty fucking awesome.

That said, I have no doubt that HotS will kick off and some pro teams will start playing it. I don't think it has to be either-or. I also think HotS has a lot of potential. I just randomly saw it when I was flipping through channels, and I was pleasantly surprised. Looks really fun and I've installed the game to try and play it now.
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
April 27 2015 12:51 GMT
#304
Uhh, there are already pro-teams playing it. NaVi, Teamliquid, ESC, Gamers2 (I really feel like I'm omitting some important ones - no insult intended, my brain is just jello these days).
_Darwin_
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2374 Posts
April 27 2015 14:11 GMT
#305
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
April 27 2015 14:35 GMT
#306
On April 27 2015 21:51 Ghostcom wrote:
Uhh, there are already pro-teams playing it. NaVi, Teamliquid, ESC, Gamers2 (I really feel like I'm omitting some important ones - no insult intended, my brain is just jello these days).


The ESV team has been sponsored? picked up? by Jesse Cox and is now Stellar Lotus.

There are 2 Cloud 9 teams, and a Tempo Storm team. I remember the Fnatic team as well.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4178 Posts
April 27 2015 16:11 GMT
#307
On April 27 2015 23:35 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 21:51 Ghostcom wrote:
Uhh, there are already pro-teams playing it. NaVi, Teamliquid, ESC, Gamers2 (I really feel like I'm omitting some important ones - no insult intended, my brain is just jello these days).


The ESV team has been sponsored? picked up? by Jesse Cox and is now Stellar Lotus.

There are 2 Cloud 9 teams, and a Tempo Storm team. I remember the Fnatic team as well.

SK Gaming, Dignitas, Acer, and a few high profile Chinese orgs like Newbee and Edward Gaming.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-27 17:09:46
April 27 2015 17:07 GMT
#308
On April 27 2015 20:20 Holloworb wrote:
How many viewers did the finals end up having?

the illegal restream on twitch got about 3k plus during the top 4
not sure about the final numbers because it was taken down.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23270 Posts
April 27 2015 17:46 GMT
#309
This made me lol pretty hard.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2444724-sports-fans-upset-over-espn-2-airing-heroes-of-the-dorm-gaming-competition
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44461 Posts
April 27 2015 18:18 GMT
#310
On April 28 2015 02:46 GreenHorizons wrote:
This made me lol pretty hard.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2444724-sports-fans-upset-over-espn-2-airing-heroes-of-the-dorm-gaming-competition


LOVE THIS.
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
April 28 2015 02:01 GMT
#311
Gah, any ETA on the finals VODs?
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Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 04:47:43
April 28 2015 04:47 GMT
#312
I had a great time making a trip back to my alma mater and checking things out. I only attended it live just in time for grand finals, but I was still blown away by it! It was a great venue, and I finally got my Hearthstone Fireside gatherings card back, haha! Games were amazing and nail-bitingly close! Couldn't believe my eyes what I saw there!

Got to meet some Evil Geniuses too! :D

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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
April 28 2015 17:05 GMT
#313
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 28 2015 19:52 GMT
#314
I added it to our calendar so everyone not in North America can watch now.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44461 Posts
April 28 2015 19:58 GMT
#315
It's being restreamed now http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/HotD twitch
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 21:12:18
April 28 2015 20:54 GMT
#316
Hm. I suppose Blizzard got Day[9], Artosis, and Tasteless to cast because of their past with SC2. However the casting line up in practice ends up rather odd because all three are essentially colour casters.

EDIT: Random cuts to the crowds aren't timed well. T_T
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
April 28 2015 20:57 GMT
#317
haven't seen it listed elsewhere yet... 96k viewers.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 21:05:22
April 28 2015 20:57 GMT
#318
More than 11k viewers right now, which is the most of Anny heroes tournament since Blizzcon, and it is a re-broadcast meaning a lot of people already watched it
On April 29 2015 05:57 y0su wrote:
haven't seen it listed elsewhere yet... 96k viewers.


There was another one saying it had 120k viewers, but both of us are estimates though, and even then it doesn't tell the whole story, a lot people talked about it for sure .
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44461 Posts
April 28 2015 21:43 GMT
#319
On April 29 2015 05:54 MoonBear wrote:
Random cuts to the crowds aren't timed well. T_T


That was my biggest issue with watching it too x.x
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
April 29 2015 00:52 GMT
#320
On April 29 2015 06:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 05:54 MoonBear wrote:
Random cuts to the crowds aren't timed well. T_T


That was my biggest issue with watching it too x.x

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