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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45049 Posts
February 12 2016 20:23 GMT
#1601
On February 13 2016 01:55 Foxxan wrote:
I have never seen so many disconnects in draft as the 2th february patch


With the new patch, I'm suddenly experiencing absolutely awful lag, and occasionally dropping for the first times ever. 50+% of the time, my game becomes a slideshow, and I've never had issues before x.x I really hope this gets hotfixed or something.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
February 13 2016 09:21 GMT
#1602
Just made rank 7 on one of the hardest games I've played. We got a KT who was constantly over-extending and who actually went sunfire enchantment at 7. (which might be why he was overextending). We also had a decent johanna/thrall party on our team, and they were just losing their shit all over the place. The rage was real.

Around level 12 I just asked politely, "can we dial the salt back a bit?", and then johanna/thrall were silent. We played our hearts out, with all our keeps gone[garden of terror] while all their keeps/two forts remained. Holy hell it was tough to constantly teamfight in mid, then have to back to get catapults off our core. Game ended around 26 minutes with us down to 30% core health, but we finally took a fight and teamwiped the enemy team, then were able to rush core.

I'm pretty sure that if I hadn't asked the competent players to stop raging we would have just lost the game. Really when you are a good player and you rage at teammates, you are doing a disservice to the team: the enemy is getting free stuns in on the best players on the team. Once we had our best players doing stuff 100% of the time, we were able to scrape by many skin-of-our-teeth engages and pull through.
Don't Panic
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 05:02:59
February 14 2016 04:43 GMT
#1603
Every Nova that slips through my fingers because Zealot Charge comes at level 16 is one more Nova's worth of rage I shout at the screen about Artanis not having Zealot Charge baked in or as an early talent.

COME ON, GOD DAMMIT, Artanis needs the buff!

EDIT: Fuck Li Ming too, she supposed to be a Specialist or an Assassin, because I don't think I've seen a specialist roast Towers and Forts like she does.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 17:17:53
February 14 2016 16:48 GMT
#1604
Love these duo Qs where both players are fucking complete autists who do their own shit and throw games on their own.
Also how their drafts are usually fucking disasters too.

Obviously sicne they are also 2 barely literal Polacks all they can say in English is "fuck ur mother"

edit: literally the same fucking thing happens in my next game, with duo q of raynor and liming that didnt come to bosses or tributes and just kept pushing their top lane. 1st pick kerrigan that never came for ganks, died 1v1 to gazlowe and facechecked bruisers 1v5 didnt help
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
February 14 2016 22:21 GMT
#1605
I'm really tired of ultimates being so spammable. I'm still stuck in the DotA mentality where you use it when you really mean it, like if you're playing Enigma. Just now lost a game because I didn't ult when I Q'd Sylvanas with Kerrigan and she had a sliver of health left. Our team traded with someone else, but then another person randomly got caught and they took boss. His fault too, but he could've made that mistake if I didn't.
Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 14:45:43
February 15 2016 14:42 GMT
#1606
Mad about Tyrande's nerf.

Just 0.75s stun duration to Lunar flare has to be a joke, she takes almost 0.5s just to cast it... and isnt a guarantee hit. I get its because the stun meta, and can be OP when combo'ed, but she is now way weaker in solo Q because its impossible to punish positional mistakes.

Blizzard being retard as usual, just create a mechanic that if the target was stuned in any period of time, the following lock downs after 2s has diminishing returns.

Retard company is retard.
Priest
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
February 15 2016 15:42 GMT
#1607
Well I still like her a lot. The problem is Blizzard pretty much balanced all OP heroes only to introduce 1 new game changing OP hero and OPify Reghar.

If you forget Reghar and Li Ming I think a lot of heroes are viable today, and Tyrande is still awesome. The problem is she's not 65% winrate Reghar, so you're at a disadvantage if you have any support which is not Reghar. But a good Tyrande is way more powerful than a meta-monkey Reghar.

Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
February 15 2016 16:11 GMT
#1608
I fully agree with you Leolio. I still think Tyrande is alright... but if you really think about it, what makes Tyrande a strong pick?

To me, was her long range stun that punishes opponents positional mistakes.
The stun was just long/hard enough to enable my allies to catch up and secure the kill. At 0.75s it doesn't fit this job anymore, and i feel it became a completely useless ability now except to break channeling spells.

Lunar flare aside, before the nerf, her lack of heal was compensated by a low trait cooldown + high damage output for a healer, and Blizzard took all away... i am not sure how/why should i play her anymore.
Priest
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 16:47:06
February 15 2016 16:46 GMT
#1609
Her strong points imo:
- Her stun is good in a combo,
- Her master pink armor is awesome
- Her ultimate is very good for teamfights and ganks
- She has global presence with her ultimate of course, so you can save that overextending Zagara.
- She has global presence too + map awareness with her mana hungry owl.
- I love using mark, it really melts front line heroes.
- Trueshot aura is very powerful and people don't notice it so it's even more dangerous.

I also love how she's lacking in heal (well I go for shield usually) until 10 and then after Shadowstalks is picked you win all the fights because you have so much healing at once.

She has many unique abilities. Cloaking a whole team is unique, sending a traveling spectral bird accross the map is unique (I killed 1 Sonya from accross the map in HL saturday by anticipating where she'd escape YOU COULD HEAR ME SCREAMING MY JOYYYYY), trueshot aura is unique, mark is an interesting tweak as it's the only mana-free available from start 4 seconds vulnerability.

She feels unique and TBH her winrate is second to reghar's because of his OPness. :-)

I understand what you say, and you're right, but she was OP and that was a bad thing for the game. And now I get to play her more which is good. :-)
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 13:06:45
February 16 2016 09:54 GMT
#1610
Played an HL game yesterday on Pirate map with a Rexxar doing the Rexxar. For 15-20 minutes he was doing lots of camps while our stitches was VERY good at disrupting the other team, we were dominating. Then we lost a fight on their core with boss because Rexxar didn't show up. So I say "hey man 5 forts to 1 is great but now is teamfight time, come with us". No answer, he gets a camp, gets killed because 5v1 you obviously hunt Rexxar on active camps. Then proceeds to do this 3 TIMES. We were so ahead it required 3 or 4 teamwipes for us to lose and him getting ganked on their bruiser camp a couple of times. I spent 10 minutes begging him, explaining we'll lose... then I started to ask the whole team to report him if he kept it up, no use. Then tried to make the whole team follow him instead but no use, they got a free boss (thanks to him starting it at a bad time, when you sneak 2 or 3 bosses people start to expect you'll do it again).
Then he flamed the whole team for not understanding how this game plays. He never ever participated in any fight.

We lost in 30 minutes after dominating 20 full minutes and throwing 3 or 4 times in a row, letting game winning opportunities pass at least twice.

I spent 10 minutes explaining it to him after the game but, well, it's the Internet, if you want to be delusional about yourself, go ahead noone can make you face the truth.

edit: played 3 games today:
- Game 1 and 3: 2 Abathurs in draft, 2 noobs with no map awareness
- Game 2: Johanna who SOLO suicides 4 or 5 times in the whole game and a noob Zag who can't land a Maw (that Zag was Abathur in the next game we're so lucky). Johanna almost never was here for the fights.
FUCK THIS DAY ^^
Mnemic
Profile Joined April 2010
Botswana80 Posts
February 16 2016 19:30 GMT
#1611
Fuck you Li Ming and fuck you Blizzard, nerf that trash. That hero was supposed to be a skill hero? Dont make me laugh, every retarded motherfucker can stand out of range and deal damage. How long untill you realize that QM is crap and we need Unraked draft? How long do you need to fix that matchmaking?? Whats the point of ranks? They show nothing and are worth shit. This takes too long, the game is barely playable.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 20:21:31
February 16 2016 20:20 GMT
#1612
Just got silenced for 24 hours. It stated in the email received something along these lines:
"you got silenced cuz of to many reports"

But i still dont understand why i got it in the first place. Because i said "NEed globes fuckers"
Is that report worthy? Or calling someone a monkey? A noob? Report worthy?

Truth is, your system suck. I actually thought u looked into every case.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
February 16 2016 20:24 GMT
#1613
On February 17 2016 05:20 Foxxan wrote:

But i still dont understand why i got it in the first place. Because i said "NEed globes fuckers"
Is that report worthy? Or calling someone a monkey? A noob? Report worthy?


I 100% think all of those are report worthy.
Don't Panic
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
February 16 2016 20:57 GMT
#1614
On February 17 2016 05:24 MotherFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 05:20 Foxxan wrote:

But i still dont understand why i got it in the first place. Because i said "NEed globes fuckers"
Is that report worthy? Or calling someone a monkey? A noob? Report worthy?


I 100% think all of those are report worthy.

I would have probably reported as well, if I even had chat on.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 16 2016 22:20 GMT
#1615
On February 17 2016 05:20 Foxxan wrote:
Just got silenced for 24 hours. It stated in the email received something along these lines:
"you got silenced cuz of to many reports"

But i still dont understand why i got it in the first place. Because i said "NEed globes fuckers"
Is that report worthy? Or calling someone a monkey? A noob? Report worthy?

Truth is, your system suck. I actually thought u looked into every case.


I'd look into that case and ban your ass.

What's wrong with pinging a globe and then saying "pls let me get globes ;_;" or something?

What do you get by calling someone a monkey (which is racist, tbh) or a noob? You add literally nothing positive to the game by doing that.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-17 11:23:31
February 17 2016 11:19 GMT
#1616
Monkey is not racist at all. Except for monkeys but I know none. To me a "code monkey" is a programmer who is asked to code but not think. So you can adapt that to anything IMO.

Except than that I agree with you Larkin (and ThomasjServo and MotherFox), I'd report for that. TBH I think I report 1 people almost every HL game, and I think I often get reported too as I HAD a tendency to pick on players who utterly suck. When someone starts insulting they usually report you for whatever so we all get reports from time to time.
That means there are thousands of reports everyday, so no, they don't investigate at all. And it may be unfair sometimes, like trying to make someone play with the team while he insults you and you stayed polite, and both of you report each other. He's at fault, nor you, but the reports have approximately the same weight.

I do think that your reports are weaker if you use it a lot, and if you get reported a lot. The system will consider you and untrusted source for reports and lower your impact. I'm pretty sure it's that as it's impossible to make a human check this, and it's easy to script something like that.

Foxxan it's only normal you end up with a silence. I'll get one someday I think, it's not a big deal just disable allied chat so that you don't read their bullshit at all during your time. :-) (it doesn't disable draft chat so you can read them in draft)


BUT Blizzard should do 2 quick fixes here:
- your allies should be allowed to know in draft that you are muted. Else THEY get punished for it, and you too as the draft will probably be terrible and you'll get more reports because of it.
- your team (and NOT the opponents) must see when you disable allied chat, because it'll prevent people from getting mad at you for not listening the chat.
These 2 small fixes would lower toxicity a lot.

And I have a personal rule, if you draft a niche hero against the will of the team and we lose because of you, I report you. (2 fu cking Abathurs yesterday)
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
February 17 2016 13:08 GMT
#1617
On February 17 2016 20:19 Leolio wrote:
Monkey is not racist at all. Except for monkeys but I know none. To me a "code monkey" is a programmer who is asked to code but not think. So you can adapt that to anything IMO.

Except than that I agree with you Larkin (and ThomasjServo and MotherFox), I'd report for that. TBH I think I report 1 people almost every HL game, and I think I often get reported too as I HAD a tendency to pick on players who utterly suck. When someone starts insulting they usually report you for whatever so we all get reports from time to time.
That means there are thousands of reports everyday, so no, they don't investigate at all. And it may be unfair sometimes, like trying to make someone play with the team while he insults you and you stayed polite, and both of you report each other. He's at fault, nor you, but the reports have approximately the same weight.

I do think that your reports are weaker if you use it a lot, and if you get reported a lot. The system will consider you and untrusted source for reports and lower your impact. I'm pretty sure it's that as it's impossible to make a human check this, and it's easy to script something like that.

Foxxan it's only normal you end up with a silence. I'll get one someday I think, it's not a big deal just disable allied chat so that you don't read their bullshit at all during your time. :-) (it doesn't disable draft chat so you can read them in draft)


BUT Blizzard should do 2 quick fixes here:
- your allies should be allowed to know in draft that you are muted. Else THEY get punished for it, and you too as the draft will probably be terrible and you'll get more reports because of it.
- your team (and NOT the opponents) must see when you disable allied chat, because it'll prevent people from getting mad at you for not listening the chat.
These 2 small fixes would lower toxicity a lot.

And I have a personal rule, if you draft a niche hero against the will of the team and we lose because of you, I report you. (2 fu cking Abathurs yesterday)

They can see when you're muted in draft, there is a yellow speech bubble on your hexagon.

I don't know that I like your team knowing that you turned off chat, I play without chat more often than not.
eusunt
Profile Joined May 2008
Romania6 Posts
February 17 2016 13:48 GMT
#1618
On February 17 2016 20:19 Leolio wrote:


And I have a personal rule, if you draft a niche hero against the will of the team and we lose because of you, I report you. (2 fu cking Abathurs yesterday)


I had an aba game, me with aba with a kaelthas that was utterly bad, didn't knew how to use his e at all, said it was aba's fault and report, I'm thinking it was you, and abathur is not a niche hero.

Your rule is dumb .
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
February 17 2016 13:59 GMT
#1619
Yes, my rule is sorta dumb.
But at my smurf account's level (rank 9 or so now) if you pick Abathur you have to be way better than the current level to really make a difference so you take full responsibility on this. You have to be aware people are not used to play with Abathur, you have to be the shotcaller, to push, to contribute to fights... in more than 2k games I probably only played with 3 or 4 good Abathurs. Picking him will trouble your whole team. But that's not the whole point. Picking Abathur is not a fault.
BUT if you make your team all in by picking Abathur (or Cho Gall, or double healer, or no healer, or no warrior) AGAINST the will of the team (so you were a dick in draft) you deserve to get reported. If you play against your team you deserve to be banned in my book.

ThomasjServo > wow thanks for the information. I had 2 games with muted people today (fuck me) and I didn't notice at all.
It gets cute when they start spam pinging you in game because they can't talk. :D
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-17 14:55:18
February 17 2016 14:43 GMT
#1620
On February 17 2016 20:19 Leolio wrote:
Monkey is not racist at all.


In the US there is a history of using the term "monkey" to denigrate specific demographics. (African Americans) But, in the context of the EU server I'm inclined to agree that it wouldn't be taken(or intended) as a racist term.
Don't Panic
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