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On January 28 2016 05:12 Foxxan wrote:
Our zagara didnt want to win cuz of me butcher pick and that someone picked greymane in HL.
TBH if I end up in draft with Butcher and Greymane I think we're about to lose. I'll still do my best but it'll be hard.
On January 28 2016 08:09 MotherFox wrote:
Given that, I shotcall ai games when I want to get through quests, but that's because I only doso when I am short on time. (since I hate ai games). If 2-3 teammates don't go along with my guidance, I'll simply A-move the core and leave my computer running while I do errands around the house. If people won't help, a-moving across the map as sylvanas will literally end the game just as quickly as actively playing the game. (you just need to check in once every 3 minutes or so to a-move again if the bots somehow killed your character)
I try to politely ask teammates to do a quick strategy but it's a place for beginners before everything. So if they don't listen or play too bad, I don't get pissed, just play auto attack mode in lane while I'm working, ALT-TABing back to HOTS every minute or so.
Well, yesterday 2 other games which were the "Win this one to be rank 1" and 2 defeats. I'm starting to get good at loosing THAT game.
1st game I get a rank 1 with a rank 23 who played really bad with Muradin (dunno it was possible).
2nd game I carry the game 15 minutes as Thrall, then start to suck as my teammates played bad all game and we fell behind. Some dude picked Kharazim (level 4... come on) and would engage solo a lot. With that our dive comp was doomed.
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On January 28 2016 09:25 Foxxan wrote:
Why the hell do sonyas keep picking LEAP!
Stupid fucking idiots.
Better question is why do you think that Leap isn't viable? Maybe it wasn't the right choice in your games, but I've been winning team league and hero league games with Leap Sonya quite easily and convincingly. 1.5 seconds AoE stun is no joke, especially if you have the followup from Jaina/KT.
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I have not seen a tank/warrior in a QM in 3 weeks unless I played one. Dont know what is wrong with the game.
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On January 29 2016 00:33 dpurple wrote:
I have not seen a tank/warrior in a QM in 3 weeks unless I played one. Dont know what is wrong with the game.
The duality of QM, either play without a warrior and risk it, or play as the warrior and all your damage is over eager or too skiddish.
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On January 29 2016 00:39 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 00:33 dpurple wrote:
I have not seen a tank/warrior in a QM in 3 weeks unless I played one. Dont know what is wrong with the game. The duality of QM, either play without a warrior and risk it, or play as the warrior and all your damage is over eager or too skiddish.
The rules of Quick Match:
Play as Assassin: Your team will have only Assassins and Specialists
Play as Specialist: Your team will have only Specialists and Assassins
Play as Warrior: Your team will have 3 Warriors and no Supports
Play as Support: Your team will have 2 Supports and no Warriors
Quad-Queue as Support, Assassin, Warrior and Specialist: Your team will get a second Support.
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I've noticed that queuing as a 2 or 3 in QM creates far, far better games than solo. SoloQ it doesn't seem to matter which hero (or auto-select) I play, the composition is usually trash. But when with another person or two, the comps are miraculously far better.
I did feel sorry for one group I matched against though - Stitches, Tassadar, Brightwing, Abathur, Zeratul. On Dragon Shire. Poor guys. Stitches had out done Zeratul for damage by the end of it.
I have noticed that as auto-select I seem to always end up as specialist since other teams usually have one and mine don't - and I've rolled Gazlowe (free week), Sylvanas, Murky, Nazeebo twice and Hammer three times today - but never rolled Zagara or TLV, which I also own. Strange.
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On January 29 2016 00:50 Larkin wrote:
I did feel sorry for one group I matched against though - Stitches, Tassadar, Brightwing, Abathur, Zeratul. On Dragon Shire. Poor guys. Stitches had out done Zeratul for damage by the end of it.
I'm honestly thinking that could have been me playing Stitches.. whats your QM MMR? about 2600?
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On January 29 2016 00:47 Morfildur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 00:39 ThomasjServo wrote:On January 29 2016 00:33 dpurple wrote:
I have not seen a tank/warrior in a QM in 3 weeks unless I played one. Dont know what is wrong with the game. The duality of QM, either play without a warrior and risk it, or play as the warrior and all your damage is over eager or too skiddish. The rules of Quick Match: Play as Assassin: Your team will have only Assassins and Specialists Play as Specialist: Your team will have only Specialists and Assassins Play as Warrior: Your team will have 3 Warriors and no Supports Play as Support: Your team will have 2 Supports and no Warriors Quad-Queue as Support, Assassin, Warrior and Specialist: Your team will get a second Support.
Not sure about those rules but QM for me has become so incredible dull lately cuz of to weird setups. Maybe that is not the problem though, ppl in QM do more suicide etc and just ruin games.
So its either of those or maybe both. Maybe i play to few QM games though. I play 99.9% Hero league.
On January 28 2016 18:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2016 09:25 Foxxan wrote:
Why the hell do sonyas keep picking LEAP!
Stupid fucking idiots. Better question is why do you think that Leap isn't viable? Maybe it wasn't the right choice in your games, but I've been winning team league and hero league games with Leap Sonya quite easily and convincingly. 1.5 seconds AoE stun is no joke, especially if you have the followup from Jaina/KT.
I never said i dont think it isnt viable.
Either way, with a good combo or followup i can see the point of it. Or if you somehow end up as the only warrior on the team for some utility perhaps.
In my games that wasnt the case.
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warriors in QM aren't gone ... you just have a high chance to end up in a game that has 8+ tanks >.>. Those games are so silly though that they are awesome. Unless you are not a tank ... and don't have giant slayer.
Can't wait for 5 vs 5 Muradin arena.
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On January 29 2016 07:29 FeyFey wrote:
warriors in QM aren't gone ... you just have a high chance to end up in a game that has 8+ tanks >.>. Those games are so silly though that they are awesome. Unless you are not a tank ... and don't have giant slayer.
Can't wait for 5 vs 5 Muradin arena.
It will just be a bunch of slow moving/stunned dwarves taking turns jumping. XD
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yeah it will be glorius. <3 But without talents, you can't have unlimited Mana T.T, so it won't go on forever.
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Wow, this wasn't a good week for me at all. I get losses and everytime one of my team loses like 100 MMR and some guy in the other team gets 100 or even 200 MMR. So I get paired with a guy who didn't have the level to play with me, and versus a guy who should probably be ranked way higher.
I wish they stabilised people's MMR faster.
Today:
- 2 losses because of that
- 1 loss (evenly matched teams) because KT decided to never come to fights before 16 without warning us until like 12 (and forgot to come after 16, in the end he confessed he played bad)
- 1 victory of evenly matched teams:
Yesterday, 1 "fair" victory, and 2 losses with the same guy who played with us despite having a terrible MMR and losing 240 and 150 MMR on each game while a guy on the other team gets 140 in bonus. That guy had a 3400 MMR before playing with us so he was supposed to carry the team, but was a lyability in fact.
This concludes a crappy week...
(2 games today where our KT apologizes... while I appreciate that, I prefer getting people who don't have to apologize)
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On January 29 2016 22:14 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 07:29 FeyFey wrote:
warriors in QM aren't gone ... you just have a high chance to end up in a game that has 8+ tanks >.>. Those games are so silly though that they are awesome. Unless you are not a tank ... and don't have giant slayer.
Can't wait for 5 vs 5 Muradin arena. It will just be a bunch of slow moving/stunned dwarves taking turns jumping. XD
5v5 diablo will look more like gymnastics at the olympics than a serious game. (diablo mirror matches in QM already are kind of like this)
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On January 30 2016 03:22 MotherFox wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 22:14 ThomasjServo wrote:On January 29 2016 07:29 FeyFey wrote:
warriors in QM aren't gone ... you just have a high chance to end up in a game that has 8+ tanks >.>. Those games are so silly though that they are awesome. Unless you are not a tank ... and don't have giant slayer.
Can't wait for 5 vs 5 Muradin arena. It will just be a bunch of slow moving/stunned dwarves taking turns jumping. XD 5v5 diablo will look more like gymnastics at the olympics than a serious game. (diablo mirror matches in QM already are kind of like this)
Or a scene from Dirty Dancing.
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Shouts out to the Johanna who at first wanted to troll pick Nova, then spent more time whining than actually playing the game. Deciding instead to shout at us for "focusing Murky" rather than attacking the immortal, criticising my picking of Mighty Gust instead of Hinterland Blast (????) and proceeding to chase Muradin around the map rather than keeping our squishies protected.
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"If you guys are going to insist on focusing Murky, I guess I'll have to be the one that focuses Muradin." --- HL Johanna, 2016.
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Elitist Illidan this time. Even asks at the start if anyone is good. Reply that there are good players on the team and an Illidan.
Illidan proceeds to:
Avoid every teamfight (even announcing it in chat, 'wont fight')
Only do camps
Completely ignore the shrine after we win a teamfight and I opt to push mid fort (mid shrine came up) and illidan can do the shrine. He proceeds to get about 5-7 minions and then just randomly aborts and goes for a camp.
When we then lose the inevitable 4v5 later on, the shrine still isn't taken, Illidan is still missing and they push with the Arcane Punisher all the way to the core.
I did more damage as Johanna than Illidan did.
I just don't understand the mind of players that just seem to think they are doing single player or something.
Avoiding every teamfight, doing only the PvE things like mercs. Why? It's a TEAM game. Go play vs fucking AI if you want to solo merc camps all day and leave your team hanging.
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On January 30 2016 22:33 Thezzy wrote:
Elitist Illidan this time. Even asks at the start if anyone is good. Reply that there are good players on the team and an Illidan.
Illidan proceeds to:
Avoid every teamfight (even announcing it in chat, 'wont fight')
Only do camps
Completely ignore the shrine after we win a teamfight and I opt to push mid fort (mid shrine came up) and illidan can do the shrine. He proceeds to get about 5-7 minions and then just randomly aborts and goes for a camp.
When we then lose the inevitable 4v5 later on, the shrine still isn't taken, Illidan is still missing and they push with the Arcane Punisher all the way to the core.
I did more damage as Johanna than Illidan did.
I just don't understand the mind of players that just seem to think they are doing single player or something.
Avoiding every teamfight, doing only the PvE things like mercs. Why? It's a TEAM game. Go play vs fucking AI if you want to solo merc camps all day and leave your team hanging.
That sounds like the dream Illidan.
At least he wasn't constantly suiciding and feeding. Count yourself lucky mate ;-) This was definitely one of the better Illidans!
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On January 30 2016 22:33 Thezzy wrote:
Elitist Illidan this time. Even asks at the start if anyone is good. Reply that there are good players on the team and an Illidan.
Illidan proceeds to:
Avoid every teamfight (even announcing it in chat, 'wont fight')
Only do camps
Completely ignore the shrine after we win a teamfight and I opt to push mid fort (mid shrine came up) and illidan can do the shrine. He proceeds to get about 5-7 minions and then just randomly aborts and goes for a camp.
When we then lose the inevitable 4v5 later on, the shrine still isn't taken, Illidan is still missing and they push with the Arcane Punisher all the way to the core.
I did more damage as Johanna than Illidan did.
I just don't understand the mind of players that just seem to think they are doing single player or something.
Avoiding every teamfight, doing only the PvE things like mercs. Why? It's a TEAM game. Go play vs fucking AI if you want to solo merc camps all day and leave your team hanging.
We had a similar team in QM they last night. Short bus Hammer, a Tychus who didn't seem to know how to attack, and a Raynor who at level 22 on BoE was laning because we, "needed the xp"
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saying an elitist he is bad in any way, will result in them playing even worse. What you mean doesn't matter, just how they will understand it matters. I know it sucks, but you want to win the game so you have to be really careful in your choice of words. Just part of a team game really.
Illidan who asks if anyone is good -> yeah ... but tend to play to careful. Now the elitist will think: "gawd noobs, better be careful when going in." Mission accomplished.
But yeah I guess if you would have said nothing, he would have probably dived in hard every fight. So making fun of him, probably gave you a chance to win lol.
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