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On October 10 2014 16:09 ninazerg wrote:
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For example, a kitten starts growing into a cat and if the cat just kept growing as a constant, it would eventually swell to fill the Solar System and the kitten would collapse into itself as a super-massive black hole and destroy the galaxy.
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Good stuff. I wouldn't mind being sucked into a super-massive pussy.
Damn it at first I meant to say that I love cats, and then it turned into this...
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On October 10 2014 22:08 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 16:09 ninazerg wrote:
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For example, a kitten starts growing into a cat and if the cat just kept growing as a constant, it would eventually swell to fill the Solar System and the kitten would collapse into itself as a super-massive black hole and destroy the galaxy.
[...] Good stuff. I wouldn't mind being sucked into a super-massive pussy. Damn it at first I meant to say that I love cats, and then it turned into this...
So the end of the world will be triggered by a gigantic cat? That's adorable
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Well obviously you all guys have a decent point with this being a site revolving around a Blizzard game, plus all the other points you made which makes no sense to repeat here, and generally I can relate to a lot of your points and agree.
However, I cant escape the immpresion that the attention this game is getting is forced if anything. It is so artificial and non organical even if I put your arguments in the equation.
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On October 10 2014 23:19 NukeD wrote:
Well obviously you all guys have a decent point with this being a site revolving around a Blizzard game, plus all the other points you made which makes no sense to repeat here, and generally I can relate to a lot of your points and agree.
However, I cant escape the immpresion that the attention this game is getting is forced if anything. It is so artificial and non organical even if I put your arguments in the equation.
I'm holding my judgement until later when the pro scene has run for a while. It should become apparent then if the scene is capable of growing organically, or if it's basically on Blizzard life support.
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On October 10 2014 23:38 ahswtini wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 23:19 NukeD wrote:
Well obviously you all guys have a decent point with this being a site revolving around a Blizzard game, plus all the other points you made which makes no sense to repeat here, and generally I can relate to a lot of your points and agree.
However, I cant escape the immpresion that the attention this game is getting is forced if anything. It is so artificial and non organical even if I put your arguments in the equation. I'm holding my judgement until later when the pro scene has run for a while. It should become apparent then if the scene is capable of growing organically, or if it's basically on Blizzard life support.
We're currently putting together an intro piece about the pro scene that has been going for a bit without blizzard support. Hopefully that will give you guys a new perspective. Keep an eye out for it
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Glad to hear Idra is doing well, he is missed.
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On October 10 2014 03:42 Tenks wrote:
Shit I wish I got in on some of this dirty, dirty Heroes money. I was first wave alpha access and all they've done is willingly take my money!
Lucky for you, I've never had any beta accesses, pretty sure my account is bugged.
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On October 10 2014 23:19 NukeD wrote:
Well obviously you all guys have a decent point with this being a site revolving around a Blizzard game, plus all the other points you made which makes no sense to repeat here, and generally I can relate to a lot of your points and agree.
However, I cant escape the immpresion that the attention this game is getting is forced if anything. It is so artificial and non organical even if I put your arguments in the equation.
Well, a lot of peoples lives are riding on this game. Build hype for this shitty game or get a real job? People will play anything these days as long as there is a shot at making money. Sc2 and dota too hard? Find something else.
User was temp banned for this post.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
i wish blizz cared enough about sc2 to pay me for hyping it beyond belief
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On October 10 2014 02:37 nigsky wrote:
My issue with this game is the people behind it. I don't trust Kim or Browder to design and balance a high quality game.
You all know that If David Kim was in charge of Dota and not Icefrog the 6.82 rubberbanding would have been left unchanged until summer of 2015.
As if game designers have ANYTHING to do with TECHNICAL issues in a game
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On October 10 2014 01:51 xeliana wrote:
i find it curious that i never see any kind of streams of heroes on twitch. is the community still so small, that no one cares or does no one bother to stream the game at all?
NDA
No one is allowed to stream it unless Blizzard gives them the greenlight.
I think its because Blizzard wants a lot of the game still a mystery until they move into open beta. Usually open beta opens up stream opportunities.
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United States22154 Posts
On October 11 2014 04:46 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 01:51 xeliana wrote:
i find it curious that i never see any kind of streams of heroes on twitch. is the community still so small, that no one cares or does no one bother to stream the game at all? NDA No one is allowed to stream it unless Blizzard gives them the greenlight. I think its because Blizzard wants a lot of the game still a mystery until they move into open beta. Usually open beta opens up stream opportunities.
I don't think this is true, Sheth streams, ZP streams, a bunch of people stream.
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On October 11 2014 04:46 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 01:51 xeliana wrote:
i find it curious that i never see any kind of streams of heroes on twitch. is the community still so small, that no one cares or does no one bother to stream the game at all? NDA No one is allowed to stream it unless Blizzard gives them the greenlight. I think its because Blizzard wants a lot of the game still a mystery until they move into open beta. Usually open beta opens up stream opportunities.
There are a lot of streams. Haven't you checked twitch before posting this ?
Most streams rarely get to the three digits, because well, there is almost no hype for this game, and it is only logical since most people can't try it out, so why would they switch their interest into a game on "alpha" phase when they already have their well stablished MOBAs of choice.
Later on, maybe more people will get interested, and i am sure all this stuff for Blizzcon is done to try to start hyping the game (and probably following it with invite waves afterwards). But to me it looked like Blizzard's decission to stay on low profile with this game for quite long time, to try to get the game right before going full advertisiment.
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On October 11 2014 04:49 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 04:46 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:On October 10 2014 01:51 xeliana wrote:
i find it curious that i never see any kind of streams of heroes on twitch. is the community still so small, that no one cares or does no one bother to stream the game at all? NDA No one is allowed to stream it unless Blizzard gives them the greenlight. I think its because Blizzard wants a lot of the game still a mystery until they move into open beta. Usually open beta opens up stream opportunities. I don't think this is true, Sheth streams, ZP streams, a bunch of people stream.
Really? lol I guess its because mobas aren't my thing, and I am not interested enough to find the streams.
But regardless, it seems Storm is going to be fun, so we shall see where it takes us.
About the discussion on TL nuthugging Blizzard, or paying for articles to hype the game, well I have no solid opinion and ninazerg said it best already.
Great article though, thanks for sharing.
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On October 11 2014 05:03 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 04:46 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:On October 10 2014 01:51 xeliana wrote:
i find it curious that i never see any kind of streams of heroes on twitch. is the community still so small, that no one cares or does no one bother to stream the game at all? NDA No one is allowed to stream it unless Blizzard gives them the greenlight. I think its because Blizzard wants a lot of the game still a mystery until they move into open beta. Usually open beta opens up stream opportunities. There are a lot of streams. Haven't you checked twitch before posting this ? Most streams rarely get to the three digits, because well, there is almost no hype for this game, and it is only logical since most people can't try it out, so why would they switch their interest into a game on "alpha" phase when they already have their well stablished MOBAs of choice. Later on, maybe more people will get interested, and i am sure all this stuff for Blizzcon is done to try to start hyping the game (and probably following it with invite waves afterwards). But to me it looked like Blizzard's decission to stay on low profile with this game for quite long time, to try to get the game right before going full advertisiment.
I go to twitch every day, but I hardly seek out any moba titles. I noticed Storm streamers a couple times, but I am not invested in those streamers.
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On October 10 2014 21:27 SixStrings wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 06:35 WolfintheSheep wrote:On October 10 2014 03:42 zeo wrote:On October 10 2014 03:27 Plansix wrote:
The point is everyone is corrupt and bias and not one can just like a game and write about it. Same boring conspiracy theory non-sense we see on the internet all the time. Step1: Dangle the 'you will become a big fish in a little pond ($$$)' carrot to key websites by offering them exclusive access, keys, whatever and 'help grow' ($$) this new game. Step2: Dangle the 'you will become a big fish in a little pond ($$$)' carrot to popular xy blizzard game streamers, personalities, whatever and watch them fight over each others dead bodies to give legitimacy to xyz and become $$$ Step3: Get legitimacy and a pre-made community for a new IP in alpha stage without doing any work or heaven forbid, make a good game. That was my point. Anyway, whatever, in a year or two watch 'hots pros' switch to a competitive dating sim by blizzard. Won't post anymore in this thread, TL can put whatever articles and can cover whatever games that they want. Just trying to voice the opinions of some members of the community, or at the least my opinion of Blizzard business practices in the last few years. I don't know what's dumber, the fact that you think companies could actually bribe terrible games into popularity Ever heard of World of Tanks? 
Is that actually popular?
I got the impression that all that money they pumped into shilling and forced esport barely did anything.
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Blizzard has an NDA ... but if that runs you don't even know the game exists. After that its all open. Idra has been streaming for a while and the viewer numbers were high, but then he went more into team mode and well streaming Heroes feels to me like sc2, you can't win anything if you show your strats on stream.
And no one popular keeps streaming Heroes constantly like it was the case for Hearthstone. Its all about popular streamers if you want to be high up in twitch. Or you pay Twitch to be featured.
I really wonder how one can think that the hype for this game is artificial, I stumbled over some show matches done by Blizzard devs on accident. Apart from that its ESV TV and a few others that do things for Heroes. And I am glad they do, since its quiet hard to find stuff about heroes.
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I always had a strong feeling he never liked SC2, it's good he's found something he likes.
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On October 11 2014 05:07 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 05:03 Godwrath wrote:On October 11 2014 04:46 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:On October 10 2014 01:51 xeliana wrote:
i find it curious that i never see any kind of streams of heroes on twitch. is the community still so small, that no one cares or does no one bother to stream the game at all? NDA No one is allowed to stream it unless Blizzard gives them the greenlight. I think its because Blizzard wants a lot of the game still a mystery until they move into open beta. Usually open beta opens up stream opportunities. There are a lot of streams. Haven't you checked twitch before posting this ? Most streams rarely get to the three digits, because well, there is almost no hype for this game, and it is only logical since most people can't try it out, so why would they switch their interest into a game on "alpha" phase when they already have their well stablished MOBAs of choice. Later on, maybe more people will get interested, and i am sure all this stuff for Blizzcon is done to try to start hyping the game (and probably following it with invite waves afterwards). But to me it looked like Blizzard's decission to stay on low profile with this game for quite long time, to try to get the game right before going full advertisiment. I go to twitch every day, but I hardly seek out any moba titles. I noticed Storm streamers a couple times, but I am not invested in those streamers.
Yeah Idra is the most recognizable name as far as heroes streamers are concerned, but he streams on mlg.tv so you won't see him
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On October 11 2014 05:13 FeyFey wrote:
Blizzard has an NDA ... but if that runs you don't even know the game exists. After that its all open. Idra has been streaming for a while and the viewer numbers were high, but then he went more into team mode and well streaming Heroes feels to me like sc2, you can't win anything if you show your strats on stream.
And no one popular keeps streaming Heroes constantly like it was the case for Hearthstone. Its all about popular streamers if you want to be high up in twitch. Or you pay Twitch to be featured.
I really wonder how one can think that the hype for this game is artificial, I stumbled over some show matches done by Blizzard devs on accident. Apart from that its ESV TV and a few others that do things for Heroes. And I am glad they do, since its quiet hard to find stuff about heroes.
Wait, that featured section on the homepage is paid? I thought that was done random and freely done.
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