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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
October 09 2014 21:05 GMT
#41
so ur telling me theres actually a -competitive- scene for hots?

o dear
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 09 2014 21:09 GMT
#42
On October 10 2014 06:05 teddyoojo wrote:
so ur telling me theres actually a -competitive- scene for hots?

o dear

There is a competitive sense for rock, paper, scissors and Nintendo 64 WWF wrestling games. People a play Sailor Moon fighting game money matches at EVO.
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 09 2014 21:17 GMT
#43
On October 10 2014 06:05 teddyoojo wrote:
so ur telling me theres actually a -competitive- scene for hots?

o dear


Yes and it's already developing quite nicely, fun game to watch and play also.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 09 2014 21:26 GMT
#44
nice read thank you for the interviews and the purple background !
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
October 09 2014 21:35 GMT
#45
On October 10 2014 03:42 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 03:27 Plansix wrote:
The point is everyone is corrupt and bias and not one can just like a game and write about it. Same boring conspiracy theory non-sense we see on the internet all the time.

Step1: Dangle the 'you will become a big fish in a little pond ($$$)' carrot to key websites by offering them exclusive access, keys, whatever and 'help grow' ($$) this new game.
Step2: Dangle the 'you will become a big fish in a little pond ($$$)' carrot to popular xy blizzard game streamers, personalities, whatever and watch them fight over each others dead bodies to give legitimacy to xyz and become $$$
Step3: Get legitimacy and a pre-made community for a new IP in alpha stage without doing any work or heaven forbid, make a good game.

That was my point. Anyway, whatever, in a year or two watch 'hots pros' switch to a competitive dating sim by blizzard. Won't post anymore in this thread, TL can put whatever articles and can cover whatever games that they want. Just trying to voice the opinions of some members of the community, or at the least my opinion of Blizzard business practices in the last few years.

Lol, what is this bullshit?

I don't know what's dumber, the fact that you think companies could actually bribe terrible games into popularity, or the fact that you think Blizzard needs to resort to fraudulent tactics to generate interest in their products.
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RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-09 21:37:38
October 09 2014 21:37 GMT
#46
On October 10 2014 02:30 Pandemona wrote:
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There isn't much for the team just yet but there will be an announcement for us soon that Starcraft fans ought to find very exciting.


Teams being announced...............exciting for his team....SPONSORSHIP?!?!?! IdrA and LZGamer know EG...they are a good team...maybe new EG? ;o



Back to reality, thanks for the interview Marshall. Good old idra comments in there, seems he is having fun and the fact he doesn't mind losing or rages when loses seems good :D
Will defiantly watch this stuff at Blizzcon for sure

Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 02:21 NukeD wrote:
I gotta say, this sort of heavy advertising of HotS on TL makes me sick. Its obvious that this game gets special treatment whatever the reason is.


Can honestly say it is "hard" to find information on HOTS on TL...Marshall is the ONLY person/mod who does anything with HOTS, no one else. SC2 has like 10 writers and loads of people. Dota and Hearthstone have their own mini websites.
HOTS is exactly the same hype level as CS:GO on TL right now which is one guy doing all the work...

Also if you see they are about to announce a team for BlizzCon so they will be throwing more around about it in the next few weeks.

After IdrA's comment, and TLPros tweet, I'm 100% sure Snowflake is being picked up by Liquid.
Or I just fell into IdrA's ruse.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 09 2014 21:42 GMT
#47
seems like we get a small Heroes area on TL soon then yay.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
October 09 2014 21:49 GMT
#48
Too bad it's still closed though... would love to take a look at it.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-09 22:15:00
October 09 2014 22:11 GMT
#49
On October 10 2014 03:42 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 03:27 Plansix wrote:
The point is everyone is corrupt and bias and not one can just like a game and write about it. Same boring conspiracy theory non-sense we see on the internet all the time.

Step1: Dangle the 'you will become a big fish in a little pond ($$$)' carrot to key websites by offering them exclusive access, keys, whatever and 'help grow' ($$) this new game.
Step2: Dangle the 'you will become a big fish in a little pond ($$$)' carrot to popular xy blizzard game streamers, personalities, whatever and watch them fight over each others dead bodies to give legitimacy to xyz and become $$$
Step3: Get legitimacy and a pre-made community for a new IP in alpha stage without doing any work or heaven forbid, make a good game.

That was my point. Anyway, whatever, in a year or two watch 'hots pros' switch to a competitive dating sim by blizzard. Won't post anymore in this thread, TL can put whatever articles and can cover whatever games that they want. Just trying to voice the opinions of some members of the community, or at the least my opinion of Blizzard business practices in the last few years.


What is your problem?

It was rather obvious ever since the BW days that TL follows Blizzard games. I mean, it went BW>SC2>Poker>Dota>HS. Why do you need to go all Illuminati on the whole thing and figure Blizzard is pulling the strings to assert total "e-sport dominance" or something... That all sounds pretty ridiculous.

Of course, Blizzard chooses to give access to certain people if they believe it'll give them good advertising. What are they thinking, right? Those greedy bastards, trying to find potent advertising where they can.

Truth be told, I would much prefer to see a game being advertised through actual media covering and reviewing than just "Come play X, the next generation totally revolutionary game that will blow your mind!". This way, HotS is more likely to get proper feedback and have some shortcomings fixed, i.e. the talent system.

Anyway... The interview is cool. IdrA does seem more positive than usual. Could be his time away from SC2 has done him some good, but I happened to watch him play on stream, and he does seem just as he was. I expect him to encounter problems with the team aspect of the game, it's almost more challenging than the game itself to a character like him.

I also completely agree with what he says regarding talents. Ideally, they should give you a legitimate choice every time, but some of them are just so bland and useless. I really hope Blizzard steps it up in that regard.

Good stuff!
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27066 Posts
October 09 2014 22:22 GMT
#50
Idra seems a bit more relaxed which is nice to see, I felt he was stuck in a rut in that SC2 was pretty damn good for him financially, but he really didn't have the love for the game that he did for Brood War.

TL is hardly whoring itself out for HoTS, there's a few threads here and there and that's about it, not sure what some of the weird tangents on this issue are about here.

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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-09 22:33:01
October 09 2014 22:32 GMT
#51
On October 10 2014 06:09 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 06:05 teddyoojo wrote:
so ur telling me theres actually a -competitive- scene for hots?

o dear

There is a competitive sense for rock, paper, scissors and Nintendo 64 WWF wrestling games. People a play Sailor Moon fighting game money matches at EVO.


hey now, WWF No Mercy is a super great game

this thread is supremely dumb
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 09 2014 22:44 GMT
#52
On October 10 2014 06:05 teddyoojo wrote:
so ur telling me theres actually a -competitive- scene for hots?

o dear

Personally feel like everyones pushing this too hard to be competitive but its not gonna be the same as dota/lol in that sense
imo.

good interview though!
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nonlamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Thailand322 Posts
October 10 2014 06:17 GMT
#53
Sounds fun . Is there a live stream of this game?
Just a E-Sport fan but not play any xD
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
October 10 2014 07:09 GMT
#54
This thread got super-bad super-fast. I read the interview and was more like "Purple background?" and then NukeD gotta be all like

On October 10 2014 02:21 NukeD wrote:
I gotta say, this sort of heavy advertising of HotS on TL makes me sick. Its obvious that this game gets special treatment whatever the reason is.


As a middle child, I felt this way a lot when I was younger. I felt like the newest brother/sister got all the attention and it made me go into little-kid-rage. But look, eventually I got older and realized that new things naturally get more attention. Now, I think MOBAs are stupid, so I'm not even gonna go there, however, if MOBA is your cup of tea, or even if you have never tried one, I don't think trying out a new game is a bad idea. Hell, I tried out LoL and that's how I know it's not fun.

You're probably like "bUt NiNaZeRg, wHy tL gOtTa pUsH DiS gAmE oN uS sO HaRd?" and I would submit to you that Teamliquid is not pushing a product. The reason the interview is getting coverage is because it's fuckin' IdrA. If a new game comes out and big-name gamer plays it, of course people are going to want to do an interview. Unless they're a game-whore and just play everything.

On October 10 2014 04:07 Diamond wrote:
And ANYONE suggesting IdrA will shill even for a Blizzcon spot automatically has their opinion invalidated, cause he bashed the shit out of SC2 even when he did want Blizzcon invites. He has never hyped a game falsely to gain things for himself. Even when he was a paid SC2 player he bashed the game almost daily.


You're probably right, but who the fuck knows. Yes, if someone says "IdrA did this so Blizz will give him da $$$" is talking with their foot in their mouth, because they're making an assertion with no proof and just blindly assuming there is some kind of behind-the-scenes Illuminati Garena Patriarchy Ancient Aliens conspiracy going on. But that's all you need to say! To declare the intentions of IdrA without actually being IdrA is almost as bad, because you don't know what IdrA is thinking. To say he never ever ever ever could hype a game for money based on past experience is wrong because you're assuming that a pattern will stay constant forever. For example, a kitten starts growing into a cat and if the cat just kept growing as a constant, it would eventually swell to fill the Solar System and the kitten would collapse into itself as a super-massive black hole and destroy the galaxy. So maybe IdrA is getting paid and maybe he's not. We don't know that. There's always that possibility, so I don't see why we'd be making an assumption like that one way or another.

Geez.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
October 10 2014 09:04 GMT
#55
On October 10 2014 02:21 NukeD wrote:
I gotta say, this sort of heavy advertising of HotS on TL makes me sick. Its obvious that this game gets special treatment whatever the reason is.

This is a starcraft site, Hots is a blizzard game with a tournament at blizzcon o_O It seems pretty logical?

Was DotA two also getting 'special' treatment before it got its own subsection? Or Hearthstone? Duno, I don't play Hots at all but it makes sense to me that it's getting coverage.
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Omnidroid
Profile Joined November 2011
New Zealand214 Posts
October 10 2014 10:13 GMT
#56
its good to hear from IdrA again. And lol I've almost finished my first year of engineering and have to choose a specialisation soon. cool to see hes studying chemical engineering, its high on my list of specialization preference
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
October 10 2014 10:34 GMT
#57
from purely a game design perspective, hearing about hots developments is interesting. since dota is one of the best games in the world, its interesting to hear how its competitor intends to develop
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
October 10 2014 10:34 GMT
#58
On October 10 2014 16:09 ninazerg wrote:
This thread got super-bad super-fast. I read the interview and was more like "Purple background?" and then NukeD gotta be all like

Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 02:21 NukeD wrote:
I gotta say, this sort of heavy advertising of HotS on TL makes me sick. Its obvious that this game gets special treatment whatever the reason is.


As a middle child, I felt this way a lot when I was younger. I felt like the newest brother/sister got all the attention and it made me go into little-kid-rage
.


So condescending hahahahahahaha

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SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
October 10 2014 12:27 GMT
#59
On October 10 2014 06:35 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 03:42 zeo wrote:
On October 10 2014 03:27 Plansix wrote:
The point is everyone is corrupt and bias and not one can just like a game and write about it. Same boring conspiracy theory non-sense we see on the internet all the time.

Step1: Dangle the 'you will become a big fish in a little pond ($$$)' carrot to key websites by offering them exclusive access, keys, whatever and 'help grow' ($$) this new game.
Step2: Dangle the 'you will become a big fish in a little pond ($$$)' carrot to popular xy blizzard game streamers, personalities, whatever and watch them fight over each others dead bodies to give legitimacy to xyz and become $$$
Step3: Get legitimacy and a pre-made community for a new IP in alpha stage without doing any work or heaven forbid, make a good game.

That was my point. Anyway, whatever, in a year or two watch 'hots pros' switch to a competitive dating sim by blizzard. Won't post anymore in this thread, TL can put whatever articles and can cover whatever games that they want. Just trying to voice the opinions of some members of the community, or at the least my opinion of Blizzard business practices in the last few years.



I don't know what's dumber, the fact that you think companies could actually bribe terrible games into popularity


Ever heard of World of Tanks?
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
October 10 2014 12:41 GMT
#60
Haven't been updated with hots. It seems the game is slowly getting bigger.
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