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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
On March 14 2014 17:25 Nisyax wrote: Those mounts in the game are pretty funny. Also $7,50 (or more) for a champ/hero/whatever they call it. Coming from DotA, thats pretty god damn expensive. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
IMO, your definition of pay to win sort of sucks. Paying to unlock characters is fine as long as they are app reasonable balanced. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On March 14 2014 19:24 Plansix wrote: IMO, your definition of pay to win sort of sucks. Paying to unlock characters is fine as long as they are app reasonable balanced. No, more heros is a competitive advantage if you have access to 10 heroes, and they have access to every hero, they have a large advantage over you | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 14 2014 19:38 Shaella wrote: No, more heros is a competitive advantage if you have access to 10 heroes, and they have access to every hero, they have a large advantage over you You can only play one at a time and it's a 5 man game. More options doesn't mean better options. Any advantage the extre options provides is negligible. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
On March 14 2014 19:43 Plansix wrote: You can only play one at a time and it's a 5 man game. More options doesn't mean better options. Any advantage the extre options provides is negligible. The problem is that a policy like this is horrible for the meta game. I feel like we have passed the era of people trying to simplify Dota and have gone into trying to simplify LoL, the problem with this game is that Dota players don't play LoL because it doesn't have the depth that they want. While LoL players won't play this blizzard thing because it doesn't have the depth they like in LoL. I really don't see the market for this game. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 14 2014 19:50 zeo wrote: The problem is that a policy like this is horrible for the meta game. I feel like we have passed the era of people trying to simplify Dota and have gone into trying to simplify LoL, the problem with this game is that Dota players don't play LoL because it doesn't have the depth that they want. While LoL players won't play this blizzard thing because it doesn't have the depth they like in LoL. I really don't see the market for this game. People said a lot of the same things about Hearthstone, that it didn't have enough depth to attract CCG players. Yet, where it is, doing fine. Heroes isn't targeted at players who want a super competitive experience. There are games out there that handle that. Its focused on providing a 15 minute game that is more accessible. It may not have the mechanical depth of a Dota or LoL, but that doesn't make it a terrible game. Games are first and for most designed to be fun and entertaining. All this competitive and Esports stuff comes afterwords. | ||
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xpldngmn
Austria265 Posts
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
If other people have fun with it that's fine though, obviously. | ||
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rob.au
1087 Posts
I don't know if HOTS will be the next big thing but there's probably a big market for a more casual moba that's easy to learn and doesn't take up a lot of your time. Even LoL which people regard as appealing to casual players is pretty hardcore compared to most games out there. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
No. No its not. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10666 Posts
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Gowerly
United Kingdom916 Posts
Are there rune pages/masteries like in League? If not then the having to pay/grind to unlock is merely restrictive. If the heroes behind the paywall are objectively better in some way, then it's pay to win. | ||
Noam
Israel2209 Posts
I saw Tasteless play it and all his time was spent controlling another hero. What is the other player doing at this time? | ||
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Byzantium
United States423 Posts
Your ult gives you a temporary clone of one of your teammates, and after 10 seconds you have access to their ultimate as well. (Double Raynor battlecruisers won a few games this evening backdooring) In addition to that, since you spend a lot of time just in base controlling other heroes, he spawns locusts to support your lanes, and can place mines when he's not controlling someone. Instead of a mount, he can teleport on a 30s cooldown. | ||
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S1eth
Austria221 Posts
On March 14 2014 21:16 Noam wrote: Can anyone explain Abathur? I saw Tasteless play it and all his time was spent controlling another hero. What is the other player doing at this time? Abathur sits back in your base and infects a friendly character (hero or creep) with a parasite that can then use abilities remotely. Or he can create a copy of another hero and control that one. And lay mines, create locusts and other stuff. | ||
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clik
United States319 Posts
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
On March 14 2014 21:08 Gowerly wrote: Are there rune pages/masteries like in League? If not then the having to pay/grind to unlock is merely restrictive. If the heroes behind the paywall are objectively better in some way, then it's pay to win. if rock beats scissors but you have to pay for paper, which isnt objectively better than scissor but beats rock easier, then yes, its still p2w. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 14 2014 21:53 Warri wrote: if rock beats scissors but you have to pay for paper, which isnt objectively better than scissor but beats rock easier, then yes, its still p2w. Well there are several flavors of paper and as long as one of them is free, it's not a problem. | ||
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
Seems as though blizzard is moving away from competitive esports into the arena of casual games, so while I won't be playing any of them I wish them luck. | ||
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