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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46061 Posts
June 18 2015 22:31 GMT
#8861
On June 19 2015 04:04 Valiver wrote:
New Hero and Skin development video:


Novazon!

Angel Diablo looks weird imo.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46061 Posts
June 18 2015 22:32 GMT
#8862
Leoric looks so badass... he's got Sylvanas's haunting wave ability right?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
June 18 2015 22:44 GMT
#8863
On June 19 2015 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Leoric looks so badass... he's got Sylvanas's haunting wave ability right?

He has an ability called Wraith Walk that looks a bit like Haunting Wave and has the same speed but it targets something, and then when the spirit-looking thing catches the target it teleports Leoric to the target. At least that's what it looks like from the trailers.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46061 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 22:46:55
June 18 2015 22:46 GMT
#8864
On June 19 2015 07:44 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Leoric looks so badass... he's got Sylvanas's haunting wave ability right?

He has an ability called Wraith Walk that looks a bit like Haunting Wave and has the same speed but it targets something, and then when the spirit-looking thing catches the target it teleports Leoric to the target. At least that's what it looks like from the trailers.


Ah okay; I couldn't tell based on the video if he manually selected when to fly via the Wraith Walk. If it has to target something, then it won't be nearly as versatile/ as good an escape as Sylv's.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 23:01:51
June 18 2015 23:01 GMT
#8865
The Hearthstone card mount is available in game now.
We're pleased to inform you that anyone that's toppled 100 Play mode opponents in Hearthstone can now claim the Cardback Mount reward mentioned below.
In order to do this, simply log in to Hearthstone to complete the Easy Rider Quest, and then fire up Heroes of the Storm to receive your new Mount! Please also note that the Cardback Mount may take up to 24 hours to appear in your Heroes Mount collection.

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19529839/hearthstone-and-heroes-of-the-storm-rewards-6-18-2015
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
June 18 2015 23:53 GMT
#8866
yay got the card mount, can i trade it for the wow wolf T.T
Oasx
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark72 Posts
June 19 2015 09:38 GMT
#8867
Does anyone know why Sheth retired from professional play? From what i can read on liquipedia, he left Cloud 9 rather quickly, joined EG and then retired.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
June 19 2015 09:44 GMT
#8868
Butcher and stitches looks quite similar.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 19 2015 12:40 GMT
#8869
On June 19 2015 18:44 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Butcher and stitches looks quite similar.

They do, because D3 Butcher was made based on Abominations concept from WoW and WC3. Butcher in D1 was quite different and if they wanted they could have made him look differently. I still don't have problems with him though, can't wait June 30. he will probably be instant buy.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46061 Posts
June 19 2015 12:49 GMT
#8870
On June 19 2015 18:44 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Butcher and stitches looks quite similar.


They do, but I'm really happy to see that their skill sets are quite different
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46061 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 16:35:19
June 19 2015 13:09 GMT
#8871
On the b.net and TL forums, I've seen a huge amount of feedback and frustration aimed towards the lack of gold in the game. Buying heroes and skins and mounts (especially with the frequency with which new ones emerge) becomes very hard to do after you've hit level 5 with each hero- even if you're stimpacking and grinding out games for minimal coin. And sometimes, spending fifty or more (real) dollars on a brand new game for in-game purchases isn't realistic, especially when there's so much more to come!

Granted, we could just ask for the amount of gold received after games to be increased (and that would be really convenient as well), but I do also like the prospect of daily quests, as that allows for non-trivial amounts of gold to be obtained through actual achievements. But why just one per day?

As we can see from DB's Twitter post (
), any ally who kills the new treasure goblin helps complete the quest for the whole team (if it's available)... and it opens up new ideas and conversations regarding more daily quests.

Why not have *at least* 2 rotating daily quests, besides this treasure goblin idea? One set can be the ones we already have, based on hero selection (choose this type of hero or from this game; play/ win X times) and then another set can be based on in-game strategy or map-specific objectives (kill X merc/ boss camps*; personally deposit a total of 20 dubloons*, capture X tributes*, etc.).

*It would make more sense for the new set of DQs to be allowed to gradually complete over the course of multiple games, as opposed to requiring a single player/ team to capture 3 bosses in one game, or just farm dubloons for a whole game. Structuring a gradual completion DQ will prevent heroes from ignoring the rest of the game merely to complete a DQ, and obviously we want to make sure that the game itself isn't compromised due to DQs.

Allowing this additional set of *passively completed DQs* would provide a much-needed inject of currency into the game, and would reinforce playing more games/ earning more rewards, as opposed to just doubling or tripling the current rewards.

Thoughts?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 15:53:34
June 19 2015 15:42 GMT
#8872
On June 19 2015 21:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 18:44 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Butcher and stitches looks quite similar.

They do, because D3 Butcher was made based on Abominations concept from WoW and WC3. Butcher in D1 was quite different and if they wanted they could have made him look differently. I still don't have problems with him though, can't wait June 30. he will probably be instant buy.


Imo the d1 Butcher and Heroes one are rather similar in design. The latter just more fleshed out and more dressed for the task at hand. Don't forget in D1 we got him while he was in his lil workshop preparing meat. Now he is out to hunt it.

Also the wound on the Heroes Butcher makes alot of sense considering his death animation in D1. But in D3 they also say that the act 1 boss is just a abonimation stitched together out of demon parts. So Butcher is basically a demonic abomination, while Stitches is a human one, atleast after the D3 lore.
If you take the Tabletop (basically D1 with D2 classes) into consideration, the Butcher is also mentioned as being a masochist because of seemingly self inflicted wounds. And the desire for meat is something which usually is the main motivation for the zombie type undead beings.

So I belief they already designed the Butcher in D1 as an abomination. They just thought back then that it would be stupid to give the hero a pokedex, that will tell you the history of a monster when you deafeat it. Atleast if you want to keep the atmosphere dark and scary. So all we can do is theorize

I found it funny that in D3 the Act 1 Boss comes with Fire, while in D1 most Butchers probably died by standing in a firewall before a locked door. Impressive how much thought sometimes is put into things, but I guess Blizzard has alot of training in these kind of inside jokes.



I dislike the idea of dailies that have ingame activity, some people will aim for that and not winning. Happens in Hearhtstone and those games are not to much fun. In Heroes it would probably even have a noticable impact. The Goblin is an okay option for adding more gold. But I usually use the down time to consider my talents or run in a circle. So I dislike a forced Minigame.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46061 Posts
June 19 2015 16:36 GMT
#8873
On June 20 2015 00:42 FeyFey wrote:
I dislike the idea of dailies that have ingame activity, some people will aim for that and not winning. Happens in Hearhtstone and those games are not to much fun. In Heroes it would probably even have a noticable impact. The Goblin is an okay option for adding more gold. But I usually use the down time to consider my talents or run in a circle. So I dislike a forced Minigame.


I think that's why allowing these DQs to passively compile and stack over multiple games will alleviate that strain. If you need to capture 10 merc camps but you're playing 3-4 games (instead of just 1), then there's no rush. You'll naturally get there, and you won't need to sacrifice the actual game.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 19 2015 17:24 GMT
#8874
In theory that's a good idea, but we know there are always going to be people who just beeline towards finishing these things at the detriment of actually winning the game.

We already have people mucking up HL drafts trying to complete dailies... don't need more motivation for bad behavior.

I forgot which game it was, but Blizzard said they had limited achievements in it because they didn't want to encourage people to do things counter-productive towards winning the game (I think it was SC2 multiplayer), which I definitely agree with.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 19 2015 19:14 GMT
#8875
Can confirmed mucked with a HL draft yesterday because I was 1/2 for playing Starcraft heroes. Had time for 1 game. You know the universe I was picking. Had my Tychus ready to go. Someone on the other team picked Tychus. Who the hell picks Tychus in this meta? Rest of the assassins on my team are all AP carries. I suck with Zeratul. This match sucks for Raynor. Fuck it. Pumped up and good to go.
Wat
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46061 Posts
June 19 2015 20:50 GMT
#8876
On June 20 2015 02:24 Wuster wrote:
In theory that's a good idea, but we know there are always going to be people who just beeline towards finishing these things at the detriment of actually winning the game.

We already have people mucking up HL drafts trying to complete dailies... don't need more motivation for bad behavior.

I forgot which game it was, but Blizzard said they had limited achievements in it because they didn't want to encourage people to do things counter-productive towards winning the game (I think it was SC2 multiplayer), which I definitely agree with.


Those are good points. I wonder if additional daily quests could be created so that they won't directly affect gameplay (like the treasure goblin before the game starts), because even selecting a particular hero from a game or type (which are the current daily quests) can still affect the game's outcome negatively.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
June 20 2015 17:46 GMT
#8877
yeah ... I feel for the people when it says play a diablo character ... and I sigh okay Valla its time to feed. But I think farming anything ingame will turn people into Azmodans that won't get a damage boost from it.
I guess something silly like Dance in vision range of an enemy hero is not something people want as a daily quest. (Even if it is the most effective bait ingame, dance with Muradin get a kill, repeat)

And skill related stuff, will just be play this class or this hero ! For example block a shot aimed at another player.

Maybe another approach ? For example: in your next win your rewards will be modified by the (number of forts on your side left) ... err nvm I just realized what people will do if one fort on your side is down.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
June 20 2015 19:38 GMT
#8878
Why not just raise the account and/or character level limits past 40 and 20 respectively and give more gold rewards that way? No gimmick quests required. Any time there is another major release of content raise the level cap again.
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
June 20 2015 20:54 GMT
#8879
Or get rid of arbitrary level cap and just give small inject of gold each level, with a larger one every 5 levels.

As for daily quests, I think they're a nice touch. Hard to think of any good rewards that would work in-game, except maybe "Do X hero damage" or "Soak Y xp" and maybe (at a significantly lower frequency) "heal X" or ""Do Y seige damage."

How about negative quests? "LoL Pro": get high stats, but fail to meaningfully contribute to taking objectives: -100 gold.
Hildegard
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Germany348 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-20 21:44:46
June 20 2015 21:23 GMT
#8880
PTR changes are datamined. Brightwing got massive changes (Gust of Healing & Scouting Drone gone, a lot of new talents) http://www.heroesnexus.com/heroes/26-brightwing?filter-ptr=1

Blood for Blood got changed to 10% damage and 20% heal. A lot of other changes, too.

http://pastebin.com/MqywkdhS

Not all talent changes are included (Jaina loses Sprint for example).
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