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Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
February 10 2015 16:43 GMT
#6441
Cast aside was a really fun mechanic on Tyrael imo, I really can't approve of removing that. Otherwise everything sounds sensible enough although it's hard to tell what the changes do to some heroes like Raynor for example.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 16:58:28
February 10 2015 16:58 GMT
#6442
Erm, rewind on Zeratul... Blizzard is smoking something goooood.
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
February 10 2015 17:06 GMT
#6443
lvl 20 rewind. dont get your panties wet yet.
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
February 10 2015 17:08 GMT
#6444
now...does that mean zeratul can throw 4 f.. bombs LOL
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
February 10 2015 17:13 GMT
#6445
On February 11 2015 01:31 RouaF wrote:
Hmm bw nerfed pretty hard, time to buy uther who is untouched :o Looks like stitches will still be the top tank pick since arthas and muradin were nerfed. Maybe chen will make a comeback but I doubt it since he lost the most op thing he had : the spammable 1sec root at lvl 7. Time to play some motherfucking rockstar ETC !


I didn't see the Muradin nerf, or are you talking about him losing rewind?

Chen seems better now, except they nerfed his ult again for some reason. Well, he's free this week so I'll be playing him at least.

Raynor looks different, but at least his ults seem massively buffed. At a glance I guess Hyperion is good for sieging right away and you can talent it later to destroy everything in a teamfight. Will have to try it out.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
February 10 2015 17:18 GMT
#6446
On February 11 2015 02:13 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 01:31 RouaF wrote:
Hmm bw nerfed pretty hard, time to buy uther who is untouched :o Looks like stitches will still be the top tank pick since arthas and muradin were nerfed. Maybe chen will make a comeback but I doubt it since he lost the most op thing he had : the spammable 1sec root at lvl 7. Time to play some motherfucking rockstar ETC !


I didn't see the Muradin nerf, or are you talking about him losing rewind?

Chen seems better now, except they nerfed his ult again for some reason. Well, he's free this week so I'll be playing him at least.

Raynor looks different, but at least his ults seem massively buffed. At a glance I guess Hyperion is good for sieging right away and you can talent it later to destroy everything in a teamfight. Will have to try it out.

Losing rewind at lvl 13 is pretty huge, muradin relies on the double stun and the jump in jump out that rewind gives to be viable. On top of that you will have to give up the upgraded avatar if you want to get rewind and that will only come at lvl 20.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 10 2015 17:24 GMT
#6447
Yeah, I tend to think that rewind is going to be the go-to Zeratul talent at level 20. He'll be able to blow up anyone.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
February 10 2015 17:28 GMT
#6448
I bought the master skin for raynor yesterday. Seems like i will get to show it off, Blood Angel Raynor best Raynor.

Reading through the patch notes, it seems like a lot of changes, i am excited to try it out.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
February 10 2015 17:34 GMT
#6449
I wonder why they changed Raynor so much. I actually liked his kit.
Wat
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 10 2015 17:36 GMT
#6450
On February 11 2015 02:34 Tenks wrote:
I wonder why they changed Raynor so much. I actually liked his kit.

He was too damned vanilla. He'll be more interesting now.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
February 10 2015 17:38 GMT
#6451
I guess I liked it since I liked rclick heroes so much in DOTA. Clinkz & Viper 4 life!
Wat
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
February 10 2015 17:40 GMT
#6452
All in all Stitches has been nerfed less than the other warriors. :S
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 10 2015 17:43 GMT
#6453
On February 11 2015 02:40 Big G wrote:
All in all Stitches has been nerfed less than the other warriors. :S

I'm guessing that there's another nerf in the works. It took two patches for Arthas to really get nerfed when Blizzard announced it. It could be the same deal here.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
February 10 2015 17:48 GMT
#6454
Gorge still got it's damage halved. That is a good first step for him.
Wat
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
February 10 2015 17:48 GMT
#6455
Sounds to me with Arthas, most ppl will get eternal hunger, then probably get destruction. From there everything should be the same.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 18:06:19
February 10 2015 17:51 GMT
#6456
On February 11 2015 02:13 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 01:31 RouaF wrote:
Hmm bw nerfed pretty hard, time to buy uther who is untouched :o Looks like stitches will still be the top tank pick since arthas and muradin were nerfed. Maybe chen will make a comeback but I doubt it since he lost the most op thing he had : the spammable 1sec root at lvl 7. Time to play some motherfucking rockstar ETC !

Chen seems better now, except they nerfed his ult again for some reason. Well, he's free this week so I'll be playing him at least.


Who else is in the free rotation? I checked the site and they didn't update yet

edit: just found it on reddit, nvm!
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
February 10 2015 18:05 GMT
#6457
valla malf tass jaina tyrael zagara chen
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
February 10 2015 18:09 GMT
#6458
I'm somewhat excited with these level 20 changes. It almost feels like there are some carries in the game. In the sense that "If we can delay until 20 and be on near-equal footing we can win." A level 20 Hammer? Will be insane. Level 20 Anub looks pretty solid as well. Level 20 Zeratul, of course, will be a beast.
Wat
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
February 10 2015 18:10 GMT
#6459
On February 10 2015 13:52 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
So here's the deal: i don't think game knowlegde can alone win/carry a game.

For example, i've had games where people have thanked that i take the leadership, on one game we had 2 IAs at the start and one was saying "we should jsut sit on the base wait for it to end blablabla" until i told him to shut up and play. Then i started to try and guide the team, and using the pings on the bots/ai etc. The one who said that we should sit on the base played well, and one of the people who had left came back. At the end, we won the match, having 2 IAs for at least the first 10 minutes, and one IA the rest of the game, and the person who told us to just sit on the base apologized and everything...but what if he hadn't taken it that way? What if he had gone afk/left too? or started feeding? or the team or team comp simply wasn't as good? We would have lost, and there was nothing even a master league player could have done about it.

I guess my problem is that Hero league, or any rank will never be able to display your true skill level because for better or worse, your team has a lot of influence on your wins/loses (that is, if the MMr only takes into account wins/loses), and thats why i can't wait for team league, to at least know how good my team is compared to other teams, and not clusterfuck that is hero leage right now.


So I was playing in hero league yesterday and a guy says "I can only play Valla, let me take her please" which of course was the other team's first choice. He then chooses Raynor and lanes on the bottom during the first two temples on sky and afterward lanes in the top lane during the bottom temple on sky. We sadly got 2 half temples out of those first 3 and he dies at this point 5 times. FIVE...and he's hero league rank 30. I think I was 27 before the match and 28 after... What the hell 8(

BTW anybody else look at your teammates profiles during the draft to get ready for how good/bad the game is.

I played 4 games yesterday and just quit because in each game my team had at least one problem player (two games we had an AFK player in Hero league...wth? - one game we had an illidan that managed to rack up 17 deaths while our next highest death count was 4...one game I have this Raynor.

Something has to be fundamentally wrong with the system for these players to be advancing 20 levels and yet seem like they should be level 45.

Very frustrating and has me not wanting to play at all
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
February 10 2015 18:24 GMT
#6460
Nova replaced Sylvanas on the hero league background...odd
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