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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 22:21:19
January 21 2015 22:21 GMT
#5541
On January 22 2015 06:40 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 06:36 mordek wrote:
On January 22 2015 06:19 Godwrath wrote:
Except specialist for me this rotation. Hahah, that quest is going to last a long time in my quest log it seems.

Sgt. Hammer is a specialist


If you aren't level 12 or 15 yet then you can use autoselect to get these heroes if you're intent on finishing your quest. Note that auto select is randomly choosing between the 7 free heroes and any other heroes you own so it may take a bunch of games to finish.

Oh good to know, thanks. Yeah, i didn't get hammer, probably for the reason you are saying.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
January 21 2015 22:22 GMT
#5542
On January 22 2015 04:58 Wuster wrote:
Now, the main question I had is if Bile was ever worth taking over Gorge? First game I played Bile seemed pretty strong with the movement speed buff / debut. Second game I took Gorge, which of course is awesome as hard CC and for securing a pick.


Sometimes there is that stupid combination of low dps/CC on your team and high survivability/escape on the enemy team... I feel like in those games Gorge doesn't do much. Also a few heroes have access to Relentless, which halves the duration of Gorge.

Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 23:09:06
January 21 2015 23:06 GMT
#5543
I don't like how stealth works in this game, if you don't happen to have one of the heroes who have detection with you you are fucked. I was trying to learn how to play Valla but two games in a row I was camped by invis Nova and the third game it was Zeratul, and I hate how there is nothing I can do to catch those assholes off guard.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
January 21 2015 23:11 GMT
#5544
On January 22 2015 08:06 Random() wrote:
I don't like how stealth works in this game, if you don't happen to have one of the heroes who have detection with you you are fucked. I was trying to learn how to play Valla but two games in a row I was camped by invis Nova and the third game it was Zeratul, and I hate how there is nothing I can do to catch those assholes off guard.

Actually you can use splash damage ability. As i remember Valla has one.
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DPK
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada487 Posts
January 21 2015 23:16 GMT
#5545
On January 22 2015 08:06 Random() wrote:
I don't like how stealth works in this game, if you don't happen to have one of the heroes who have detection with you you are fucked. I was trying to learn how to play Valla but two games in a row I was camped by invis Nova and the third game it was Zeratul, and I hate how there is nothing I can do to catch those assholes off guard.


That's not true. Just learn to pay more attention. Stealth heroes are easy to spot when you actually look for them, they can be seen just like DTs or Observer in sc. With Valla, multishot in the direction of the stealth hero and boom, he's out of stealth. EZPZ.
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Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
January 21 2015 23:17 GMT
#5546
Oh, so damage brings them out of stealth? I didn't realise that, I thought they had to attack to break invisibility.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
January 21 2015 23:26 GMT
#5547
Also Spell Shield @13 makes a huge difference against Nova/Zera
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
January 22 2015 00:01 GMT
#5548
On January 22 2015 07:22 Big G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 04:58 Wuster wrote:
Now, the main question I had is if Bile was ever worth taking over Gorge? First game I played Bile seemed pretty strong with the movement speed buff / debut. Second game I took Gorge, which of course is awesome as hard CC and for securing a pick.


Sometimes there is that stupid combination of low dps/CC on your team and high survivability/escape on the enemy team... I feel like in those games Gorge doesn't do much. Also a few heroes have access to Relentless, which halves the duration of Gorge.



Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Sometimes it just feels like Stiches is putting out massive damage, so it seems if necessary I'll just play the melee assassin role. Also with pugs... well sometimes they manage to do no damage with Valla or whatnot.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-22 01:54:21
January 22 2015 01:54 GMT
#5549
On January 22 2015 09:01 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 07:22 Big G wrote:
On January 22 2015 04:58 Wuster wrote:
Now, the main question I had is if Bile was ever worth taking over Gorge? First game I played Bile seemed pretty strong with the movement speed buff / debut. Second game I took Gorge, which of course is awesome as hard CC and for securing a pick.


Sometimes there is that stupid combination of low dps/CC on your team and high survivability/escape on the enemy team... I feel like in those games Gorge doesn't do much. Also a few heroes have access to Relentless, which halves the duration of Gorge.



Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Sometimes it just feels like Stiches is putting out massive damage, so it seems if necessary I'll just play the melee assassin role. Also with pugs... well sometimes they manage to do no damage with Valla or whatnot.


The reason why Stitches is putting out massive damage is that Slam has such a huge range that it does high damage and a DoT to the entire enemy team quite frequently, not to mention putting a DoT on everyone that hits him, and having the single highest single target damage spell in the game in Gorge (which is fucking ridiculous, why did that get buffed?) Apart from Gorge he has no burst.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10104 Posts
January 22 2015 02:03 GMT
#5550
rank 1 via solo Q achieved, ez
jk it was torture
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
January 22 2015 02:09 GMT
#5551
I don't know how you made it, im starting to think tis more luck based, cause before ranked i had 60+ winrate and now i have around 40% and don't play ranked if im not in a party.

Also, i just found Zeratul kills thrall pretty easily, and brightwing is also a hard counter.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 22 2015 02:28 GMT
#5552
On January 22 2015 11:09 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
I don't know how you made it, im starting to think tis more luck based, cause before ranked i had 60+ winrate and now i have around 40% and don't play ranked if im not in a party.

Also, i just found Zeratul kills thrall pretty easily, and brightwing is also a hard counter.


Rewind polymoprh is the hard counter to any hero.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10104 Posts
January 22 2015 02:32 GMT
#5553
it gets pretty hard when u rank up, i was getting like 40-50 pts per win. gets pretty brutal when ur solo q'ing :D
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 22 2015 03:15 GMT
#5554
So what is the best heal-based support? Uther?
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 22 2015 03:18 GMT
#5555
On January 22 2015 12:15 Shikyo wrote:
So what is the best heal-based support? Uther?


Brightwing at the moment. Uther is better for burst healing on a single target, but BW just does so much AOE healing it's insane.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-22 03:21:55
January 22 2015 03:20 GMT
#5556
On January 22 2015 12:15 Shikyo wrote:
So what is the best heal-based support? Uther?

Probably Brightwing, followed closely by Uther. Rewind+polymorph and global mobility give Brightwing the edge. Uther's ult, however, is a game changer.

Edit: if you want a pure healer, then Lili and Rehgar are better than both. They just bring less utility overall.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
January 22 2015 03:32 GMT
#5557
Started playing this game a bit more recently and damn i'm having lots of fun with Tyrande, maxed her levels already. Basically all her abilities are skillshots and she's very versatile imo, makes her gameplay really interesting.
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Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
January 22 2015 03:44 GMT
#5558
It's not probably Brightwing, it's definitely Brightwing.

Before the last few patches, it was kind of debatable.

Since, while Uther still has a great level 20 talent option, the loss of resurgence hurt him, too.

And the rewind change was a big buff to Brightwing because double Poly became a thing.

Uther has the advantage with ults but it's not because Divine Storm is better than Emerald Wind, I personally think Divine Storm is better before 20 and Emerald Wind is better at 20+. The reason Uther has the advantage is because with the necessity of Cleanse Brightwing sometimes needs to go Blink Heal instead and Uther only has to give up Clairvoyance for Cleanse.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 22 2015 03:52 GMT
#5559
On January 22 2015 12:44 Brian333 wrote:
It's not probably Brightwing, it's definitely Brightwing.

Before the last few patches, it was kind of debatable.

Since, while Uther still has a great level 20 talent option, the loss of resurgence hurt him, too.

And the rewind change was a big buff to Brightwing because double Poly became a thing.

Uther has the advantage with ults but it's not because Divine Storm is better than Emerald Wind, I personally think Divine Storm is better before 20 and Emerald Wind is better at 20+. The reason Uther has the advantage is because with the necessity of Cleanse Brightwing sometimes needs to go Blink Heal instead and Uther only has to give up Clairvoyance for Cleanse.


I dunno, the 2 extra winds aren't quite as good as Storm Shield IMO. Overlooked but amazing burst healing talent that can make you win teamfights where they get good ults off.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10104 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-22 03:59:53
January 22 2015 03:53 GMT
#5560
double poly is insanely broken, if you ever wanna make a tychus feel completely useless just double poly his odin and have someone like tass shrink ray him afterwards, it basically turns into a 5v4 teamfight and they lose out on one of their biggest damage dealers/tank.

They really need to remove rewind from BW, its as big of a problem as it was with Anub. They should replace it with like shrink ray or something.. you'd still get same type of single target utility that you would w/ double poly, only its just a bit weaker.
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