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TokO
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway577 Posts
January 22 2015 15:07 GMT
#5581
I think people have to realise that Abathur has map presence at any point on the map with a five second cooldown. It's obvious that his abilities should have a lower impact than other heroes as they are a lot more flexible. I can't comment on the monstrosity, but the copy hero thing can be used in split pushes, copying tanks for more cc, copying dps for more damage output.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 22 2015 15:16 GMT
#5582
I've only played with Abathur a few times and maybe the ones I get are pro tier but I don't think I've lost a game with Abathur on my team. His new shield talents seem really, really good. Most seem to go his new ult to push a lane while still being able to put hats on his team.
Wat
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
January 22 2015 17:29 GMT
#5583
My preferences for each role so far... considering I really hate Specialists :-P

-> Supporter: Brighting (op as fuck, especially in solo Q xD ) and Li Li (insanely strong after level 20, imo)
-> Range DPS: Tychus/Valla (situational)
-> Tank: Chen (Even after the nerf I just like him)
-> Specialist: Nazeebo

But Brightwing is by far my strongest :-P
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 22 2015 17:55 GMT
#5584
My preferred heroes are Zeratul, Thrall, Tyrael, Brightwing, and Uther. The vast majority of my games have been as Zeratul and Thrall. My strongest hero is easily Zeratul (like 21-8 doing almost all solo queue).
Raisauce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada864 Posts
January 22 2015 18:24 GMT
#5585
On January 22 2015 23:49 Hildegard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 23:19 xDaunt wrote:
On January 22 2015 23:16 Hildegard wrote:
I think the reason why Blizzard changed him is valid. Balancing around double ultimates is just impossible.

I agree with the reasoning behind making a change, but his new ultimates are just awful.


True. I hope he gets some love. But I like the design approach to explore more options for stuff that does not add to deathball vs deathball team fights. The current iteration is obviously too weak but the idea is decent (stacking up something that forces the enemy team to react or lose).


I think allowing the copied Hero inherit the original Heroes talents would be a good change. Right now, with no talents and ult there's almost no point in copying a teammate. I'd much rather just Symbiote.
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-22 19:14:21
January 22 2015 19:14 GMT
#5586
For anyone who didn't get a beta key invite:

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@gamestop
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
January 22 2015 19:31 GMT
#5587
I'm going Illidan only lately. Keeps my APM high lol and I don't fall asleep.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 22 2015 19:33 GMT
#5588
Lately I've been preferring Valla to Tychus in my ranked games. I understand why Tychus is rated higher in competitive matches but I feel I get more out of a W focused Valla than I do out of the usual FA + Stoneskin Tychus. Maybe I should try experimenting back with my Tychus builds instead of the super standard metagame one.
Wat
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
January 22 2015 19:38 GMT
#5589
Maybe you should stand still with tychus abusing the overkill+basic atack bug

Dam, i wish they sell the physical founder pack on my country, i really really need to gift one to a friend and right now theres no way to do it, if blizzard won't i guess i could ask a friend who lives in the us for one.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
January 22 2015 19:44 GMT
#5590
On January 23 2015 04:38 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
Maybe you should stand still with tychus abusing the overkill+basic atack bug

Dam, i wish they sell the physical founder pack on my country, i really really need to gift one to a friend and right now theres no way to do it, if blizzard won't i guess i could ask a friend who lives in the us for one.

can't you just give him a Gift Card? http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/blog/13814764/

gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
January 22 2015 19:44 GMT
#5591
On January 22 2015 21:47 KeksX wrote:
Oh yeah I remember, Zagara has BANELINGS. Sold.
Thanks for the hint, will try those out!


What about Abathur though? Is he just too expensive for a starter or just not that good?

Zagara is really fun to play imo, at least at my crappy level.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
January 22 2015 19:53 GMT
#5592
Zagara can be a lot of fun. She has sneaky good hero damage too, which can throw newer players off (which makes it more fun when you're racking up kills).

Also, to give an update on Stiches, I had a game yesterday where I won 3 consecutive duels with him. The first two heroes were 1/2 health granted, but still.

Snuck up on enemy Stiches, slam / auto-attacked him into the ground. Gorged over-extended Illidan and dropped him off right in front of two cannons. Then dueled full HP Tyrande over Dragon Shrine and managed to kill her. Pretty satisfying stuff.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 22 2015 20:03 GMT
#5593
started playing a few days ago, much more "Action packed"? than other MOBA's. AFK farming is very much discouraged which I like. Some of the maps are very cool though I'd like to see a standard one in the rotation. all in all thumbs up
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-22 20:07:24
January 22 2015 20:06 GMT
#5594
On January 23 2015 04:44 Big G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 04:38 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
Maybe you should stand still with tychus abusing the overkill+basic atack bug

Dam, i wish they sell the physical founder pack on my country, i really really need to gift one to a friend and right now theres no way to do it, if blizzard won't i guess i could ask a friend who lives in the us for one.

can't you just give him a Gift Card? http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/blog/13814764/



Sadly, i can't, those too aren't available where i live, the only cards from blizzard that are available are wow subcriptions :/

Oh well.
^^

They have talked about it, and they said they had one but it jsut felt boring after playing with the new maps. This game frankly withouth map objectives wouldn't have much of anything special with an standar map.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-22 20:54:39
January 22 2015 20:54 GMT
#5595
On January 23 2015 05:03 LongShot27 wrote:
started playing a few days ago, much more "Action packed"? than other MOBA's. AFK farming is very much discouraged which I like. Some of the maps are very cool though I'd like to see a standard one in the rotation. all in all thumbs up


I'm pretty impressed so far too. I bought the founders pack. All the heroes I've tried have been fun except perhaps Diablo. There's an emphasis on teamplay but each hero has abilities that are fun to try and maximise from an individual viewpoint. It's very strange and maybe just the Beta but I do feel like the team orientated objectives and gameplay do help promote that aspect overall. Haven't had any flamewars etc....yet.
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
January 22 2015 20:56 GMT
#5596
Is there any thread/forum for tournaments ? El nexo is too stronk.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-22 21:16:51
January 22 2015 21:03 GMT
#5597
Hmm... i was watching the matches today but i hand't really tought about that, maybe we could create one!

BTW, is there any place to make a suggestion to TL for the site?}}

BTW 2 i bought a stimpack so i've been playing quickmatch recently and OMG all those noobs with founder pack calling GG at the fifth minure are SO annoying.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 22 2015 21:18 GMT
#5598
On January 23 2015 05:54 Immersion_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 05:03 LongShot27 wrote:
started playing a few days ago, much more "Action packed"? than other MOBA's. AFK farming is very much discouraged which I like. Some of the maps are very cool though I'd like to see a standard one in the rotation. all in all thumbs up


I'm pretty impressed so far too. I bought the founders pack. All the heroes I've tried have been fun except perhaps Diablo. There's an emphasis on teamplay but each hero has abilities that are fun to try and maximise from an individual viewpoint. It's very strange and maybe just the Beta but I do feel like the team orientated objectives and gameplay do help promote that aspect overall. Haven't had any flamewars etc....yet.


Everyone says diablo is crap but thats because they try to use him like a tank in the early game. Diablo is useless until you get your ult. Once you do you can charge in, stun a carry and then use your 2 and your ult to do stupid damage and not even take half health damage. The other thing is that he is the SAFEST hero in the game you can respawn in 5 seconds with 60 minion kills, freaking easy. flaming is rampant but thats any game
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
January 22 2015 21:18 GMT
#5599
Tychus bug has been hotfixed http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/15701397280#1
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 22 2015 21:21 GMT
#5600
On January 23 2015 06:18 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 05:54 Immersion_ wrote:
On January 23 2015 05:03 LongShot27 wrote:
started playing a few days ago, much more "Action packed"? than other MOBA's. AFK farming is very much discouraged which I like. Some of the maps are very cool though I'd like to see a standard one in the rotation. all in all thumbs up


I'm pretty impressed so far too. I bought the founders pack. All the heroes I've tried have been fun except perhaps Diablo. There's an emphasis on teamplay but each hero has abilities that are fun to try and maximise from an individual viewpoint. It's very strange and maybe just the Beta but I do feel like the team orientated objectives and gameplay do help promote that aspect overall. Haven't had any flamewars etc....yet.


Everyone says diablo is crap but thats because they try to use him like a tank in the early game. Diablo is useless until you get your ult. Once you do you can charge in, stun a carry and then use your 2 and your ult to do stupid damage and not even take half health damage. The other thing is that he is the SAFEST hero in the game you can respawn in 5 seconds with 60 minion kills, freaking easy. flaming is rampant but thats any game

Whom are you trying to kid? Diablo is a fat cow of a hero who does basically no damage outside of his lightning breath ult, which is really easy to avoid. His CC generally sucks, and he has minimal survivability outside of having a fat HP pool to rely upon. His presence in teamfights is an absolute joke when compared to Stitches, Tyrael, Arthas, and Muradin. Even ETC is better.
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