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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 22 2015 21:22 GMT
#5601
On January 23 2015 06:21 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 06:18 LongShot27 wrote:
On January 23 2015 05:54 Immersion_ wrote:
On January 23 2015 05:03 LongShot27 wrote:
started playing a few days ago, much more "Action packed"? than other MOBA's. AFK farming is very much discouraged which I like. Some of the maps are very cool though I'd like to see a standard one in the rotation. all in all thumbs up


I'm pretty impressed so far too. I bought the founders pack. All the heroes I've tried have been fun except perhaps Diablo. There's an emphasis on teamplay but each hero has abilities that are fun to try and maximise from an individual viewpoint. It's very strange and maybe just the Beta but I do feel like the team orientated objectives and gameplay do help promote that aspect overall. Haven't had any flamewars etc....yet.


Everyone says diablo is crap but thats because they try to use him like a tank in the early game. Diablo is useless until you get your ult. Once you do you can charge in, stun a carry and then use your 2 and your ult to do stupid damage and not even take half health damage. The other thing is that he is the SAFEST hero in the game you can respawn in 5 seconds with 60 minion kills, freaking easy. flaming is rampant but thats any game

Whom are you trying to kid? Diablo is a fat cow of a hero who does basically no damage outside of his lightning breath ult, which is really easy to avoid. His CC generally sucks, and he has minimal survivability outside of having a fat HP pool to rely upon. His presence in teamfights is an absolute joke when compared to Stitches, Tyrael, Arthas, and Muradin. Even ETC is better.


You must not play very well then :D
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
January 22 2015 21:36 GMT
#5602
Diablo is pretty trash. This is coming from the guy who's team brought Lightning Breath to competitive play and they won't even play him.....
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-22 21:45:48
January 22 2015 21:40 GMT
#5603
On January 23 2015 06:22 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 06:21 xDaunt wrote:
On January 23 2015 06:18 LongShot27 wrote:
On January 23 2015 05:54 Immersion_ wrote:
On January 23 2015 05:03 LongShot27 wrote:
started playing a few days ago, much more "Action packed"? than other MOBA's. AFK farming is very much discouraged which I like. Some of the maps are very cool though I'd like to see a standard one in the rotation. all in all thumbs up


I'm pretty impressed so far too. I bought the founders pack. All the heroes I've tried have been fun except perhaps Diablo. There's an emphasis on teamplay but each hero has abilities that are fun to try and maximise from an individual viewpoint. It's very strange and maybe just the Beta but I do feel like the team orientated objectives and gameplay do help promote that aspect overall. Haven't had any flamewars etc....yet.


Everyone says diablo is crap but thats because they try to use him like a tank in the early game. Diablo is useless until you get your ult. Once you do you can charge in, stun a carry and then use your 2 and your ult to do stupid damage and not even take half health damage. The other thing is that he is the SAFEST hero in the game you can respawn in 5 seconds with 60 minion kills, freaking easy. flaming is rampant but thats any game

Whom are you trying to kid? Diablo is a fat cow of a hero who does basically no damage outside of his lightning breath ult, which is really easy to avoid. His CC generally sucks, and he has minimal survivability outside of having a fat HP pool to rely upon. His presence in teamfights is an absolute joke when compared to Stitches, Tyrael, Arthas, and Muradin. Even ETC is better.


You must not play very well then :D

No, he sucks balls. There's a reason he routinely has one of the three-five lowest win percentages among heroes and is considered by every player of note to be garbage tier.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
January 22 2015 21:57 GMT
#5604
Yeah, but competitive =/= casual. He sucks on competitive yeah, but at anything below master league you can play with him and if you are good (and your team mates) still have more than 50% winrate.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-22 22:18:04
January 22 2015 22:05 GMT
#5605
On January 23 2015 06:57 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
Yeah, but competitive =/= casual. He sucks on competitive yeah, but at anything below master league you can play with him and if you are good (and your team mates) still have more than 50% winrate.

Yes, you can play and "do well" with any hero given bad enough competition. It doesn't change the fact that Diablo is just plain bad. If people have fun playing him, more power to 'em. They just shouldn't be deluded into thinking that he's a decent hero in his current form. It's not hard to objectively compare him to all of the other warrior class heroes and see that Diablo is clearly the worst.

EDIT: I'll say two nice things about Diablo and that's it. First, W-spam is a pretty decent enemy stealth hero countermeasure. Second, apocalypse is a counter to Nazeebo. The only problem is that apocalypse is otherwise pretty useless.
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-22 22:16:52
January 22 2015 22:15 GMT
#5606
On January 23 2015 06:22 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 06:21 xDaunt wrote:
On January 23 2015 06:18 LongShot27 wrote:
On January 23 2015 05:54 Immersion_ wrote:
On January 23 2015 05:03 LongShot27 wrote:
started playing a few days ago, much more "Action packed"? than other MOBA's. AFK farming is very much discouraged which I like. Some of the maps are very cool though I'd like to see a standard one in the rotation. all in all thumbs up


I'm pretty impressed so far too. I bought the founders pack. All the heroes I've tried have been fun except perhaps Diablo. There's an emphasis on teamplay but each hero has abilities that are fun to try and maximise from an individual viewpoint. It's very strange and maybe just the Beta but I do feel like the team orientated objectives and gameplay do help promote that aspect overall. Haven't had any flamewars etc....yet.


Everyone says diablo is crap but thats because they try to use him like a tank in the early game. Diablo is useless until you get your ult. Once you do you can charge in, stun a carry and then use your 2 and your ult to do stupid damage and not even take half health damage. The other thing is that he is the SAFEST hero in the game you can respawn in 5 seconds with 60 minion kills, freaking easy. flaming is rampant but thats any game

Whom are you trying to kid? Diablo is a fat cow of a hero who does basically no damage outside of his lightning breath ult, which is really easy to avoid. His CC generally sucks, and he has minimal survivability outside of having a fat HP pool to rely upon. His presence in teamfights is an absolute joke when compared to Stitches, Tyrael, Arthas, and Muradin. Even ETC is better.


You must not play very well then :D


I don't really think I've played enough to judge heroes on their effectiveness, I was more coming at it from an ability standpoint in that I think Diablo's are the least fun of the 5 or 6 I've tried so far, though not totally boring - soul mechanic could be interesting.
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sushiko
Profile Joined June 2010
197 Posts
January 22 2015 22:16 GMT
#5607
60 soul talent is not as great as you make it out to be. Would much rather take additional health/regen and increase soul count to 150. Just cause you're a tank doesn't mean you have to die and using instant respawn as a safety net is bad. If it spawned you in place and not back at base then maybe i'll like it more, but he's a "tank" with very limited CC as stated by others compared to arthas/stitches. Once his lightning breath is done, he won't be able to kill or output any more damage, unless you get lucky with hitting your fire novas. Worst spell ever.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 22 2015 22:20 GMT
#5608
On January 23 2015 07:16 sushiko wrote:
60 soul talent is not as great as you make it out to be. Would much rather take additional health/regen and increase soul count to 150. Just cause you're a tank doesn't mean you have to die and using instant respawn as a safety net is bad. If it spawned you in place and not back at base then maybe i'll like it more, but he's a "tank" with very limited CC as stated by others compared to arthas/stitches. Once his lightning breath is done, he won't be able to kill or output any more damage, unless you get lucky with hitting your fire novas. Worst spell ever.

If Diablo didn't have to channel is soul consumption heal, it would actually be a pretty cool and decent mechanic. It's pretty stupid as it stands right now. That needs to be changed, and his W needs to be changed as well.
sushiko
Profile Joined June 2010
197 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-22 22:25:06
January 22 2015 22:22 GMT
#5609
Agreed, i mistakenly took that talent once and was wondering why it never worked. Why it's channeling i have no idea...

Man looking over his talents it's sad siphon the dead took over probably first aid, and no stone skin.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
January 22 2015 22:50 GMT
#5610
Siphon the Dead is like the most broken talent ever.

In ARAM.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
January 23 2015 00:03 GMT
#5611
On January 23 2015 07:22 sushiko wrote:
Agreed, i mistakenly took that talent once and was wondering why it never worked. Why it's channeling i have no idea...

Man looking over his talents it's sad siphon the dead took over probably first aid, and no stone skin.

maybe this way it's easier to have control over the amount of souls you're consuming.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 23 2015 00:06 GMT
#5612
On January 23 2015 09:03 Hryul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 07:22 sushiko wrote:
Agreed, i mistakenly took that talent once and was wondering why it never worked. Why it's channeling i have no idea...

Man looking over his talents it's sad siphon the dead took over probably first aid, and no stone skin.

maybe this way it's easier to have control over the amount of souls you're consuming.

No. It should be one of those things that you can turn on and turn off while doing other actions.
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
January 23 2015 00:12 GMT
#5613
is it just me or do most games come down to who has the better stitches
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
January 23 2015 00:28 GMT
#5614
On January 23 2015 09:12 MindBreaker wrote:
is it just me or do most games come down to who has the better stitches


How can that be? Only one team can choose stitches. It comes down to who has a better premade team.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-23 00:36:51
January 23 2015 00:30 GMT
#5615
Maybe hes talking about quickmatch.

But yeah, i've been saying it for a long time, stiches is broken, even more so than tychus. Especially his ult, why can a tank pull an enemy, THEN stun him THEN eat him THEN blink away, wtf? And now with the removal of resurgances hes even more broken.

Good thing i bought him and can win too :D

WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 23 2015 00:33 GMT
#5616
They already said on Town Hall the other day Blizzard is going to tune Stitches down
Wat
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
January 23 2015 00:59 GMT
#5617
i dont get why some people say its ez to rank up.. im rank 17 now used to be 14.. im losing 81 points with losses and if i lose rank i lose extra 100 points and im just getting 80 with wins O.o lol
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
sushiko
Profile Joined June 2010
197 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-23 01:10:49
January 23 2015 01:06 GMT
#5618
Other people are just too good! I think a lot of people's initial reactions are coming from the fact that the beginning ranks is literally 1 win = 1 rank, while a loss will barely lose any points. I guess its like hearthstone's rank 25 to 20.

Quick question on rehgar's ults... when do you pick up ancestral heal vs bloodlust? My impression is bloodlust is really nice if you have a few autoattack heroes like illidan as well as team coordination to stay alive and utilize it. So i've been taking heal pretty much every time i play him. That feeling when you full heal an almost dead stitches :s
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 23 2015 01:58 GMT
#5619
In the current meta bloodlust is almost non-existant. If you pick Rehgar you pick healing. It is too good.
Wat
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 23 2015 02:06 GMT
#5620
I think you can only take bloodlust on Rehgar if you have another healer on the team. Otherwise, you're just asking for trouble.
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