EPTCertainly over a short enough period MMR changes are meaningless, that is one of the frustrations with the system for those who cannot consistently grind. Individual matches have far more consequence.
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
Certainly over a short enough period MMR changes are meaningless, that is one of the frustrations with the system for those who cannot consistently grind. Individual matches have far more consequence. | ||
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Yoav
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Capresis
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malcram
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it's like an equivalent of Alliance's rat dota style. wasn't fun at all to play against. /endrant | ||
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
did they just decide randomly how expensive the heroes are? looks like it's not really correlated to release date | ||
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
edit : also the elo thing discussion is ridiculous. It is the same for all games, even if this is a team game if you are good you will gain elo, no matter what hero you play. I haven't lost a game with lili if I remember correctly and I play only solo or duo. | ||
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kongoline
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On November 06 2014 20:00 ramon wrote: just got into alpha, wondering what heroes i should pick up first? are some of the 2k heroes considered "strong"? did they just decide randomly how expensive the heroes are? looks like it's not really correlated to release date dont buy anything just use heroes from free rotation | ||
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SoleSteeler
Canada5446 Posts
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ramon
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Destructicon
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On November 06 2014 19:20 malcram wrote: how do you stop an azmodan push strat? met the same players twice with some combination of azmodan and abathur/nazeebo/zagara. it's like an equivalent of Alliance's rat dota style. wasn't fun at all to play against. /endrant If he focuses on pushing then he should be weak in a straight up fight, if you rotate some ganks towards him you could really hamper those pushes. At times also focusing on map objectives and ignoring him could pay off as its much harder to push against a Garden Terror, Curse or Dragon Knight. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16766 Posts
On November 06 2014 13:47 Capricis wrote: This morning I unsubscribed from this thread because I was sick of hearing about how everyone and their violin was getting into the alpha, but not me. This evening I loaded up blizz launcher and lo and behold, I'm in! To all that don't have access yet, hold strong! this sad plea tore at my heart strings. i woulda just given u one of the 4 BNet accounts i have in the alpha. and its not everyone and their violin.. its everyone and their italian uncle. hardly any one has a violin. pretty sure Heroes of the Storm will be in full general release in 2015. It was mentioned about 284289 times during the ATVI investor call how they would have "9 franchises" at the end of 2015. So the beta should follow right after Blizzard recovers from releasing the Warlords of Draenor expansion. | ||
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Big G
Italy835 Posts
On November 06 2014 22:34 ramon wrote: meh, first daily quest is to play 3 specialists, and i dont even have access to one Nazeebo is a specialist, but you need to be level 12 or 15 to unlock him | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
On November 06 2014 22:55 Big G wrote: Nazeebo is a specialist, but you need to be level 12 or 15 to unlock him Also daily quests can be done an other day if I remember correctly. You won't lose it if you don't do it today. | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On November 06 2014 10:04 Yoav wrote: So don't play Li Li? I hear Arthas, Nova, Uther all stronk. As everybody else is saying, MMR records your personal impact by means of using you as a constant and milling through lots of random teammates/enemies. It might rise slower than you like, but if your winrate is <50%, you are less good than other players at your current MMR over the period you're calculating the winrate. I stopped playing LiLi when I got her to level 5, I agree with the guy who likened "elo hell" to tar and that no matter your skill you will struggle to get a 55% win ratio and above, except I would say that only applies to Li LI at this moment. Anyway moving on. Saving up some gold, what should I go for? Poll: What should the gold go to? Buy the Pig (2) Buy Anub (2) Buy solid 2k-4k Heroes (Malf Raynor Tass) (1) Buy Murky (0) Buy Brightwing (0) Buy Zeratul (0) 5 total votes Your vote: What should the gold go to? (Vote): Buy solid 2k-4k Heroes (Malf Raynor Tass) | ||
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Big G
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
Overview of hero stats You can change around the level and sort by colums you wish. May contain errors, I copied most of the data from an older version, added the latest heroes and fixed some obvious mistakes the previous person made like screwing up attack speed and attacks per second. Didn't check all numbers. Makes it easier to do some theorycraft, for example: Which heroes have the best DPS based on basic attacks? Could be useful perhaps for deciding which heroes match well with Rehgar's Bloodlust or ETC's trait. Also useful to know to determine how good a lifeleach talent would be on the hero. Answer: + Show Spoiler + Tychus, Raynor, Valla in that order edit: mana I left out because all the heroes with mana have exactly the same pool and regeneration. Only costs of spells is used here to differentiate between mana hungry heroes and others. Not a bad design choice though it's different for interpreting the power of abilities that give mana like malfurion's trait. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On November 06 2014 23:21 Markwerf wrote: Was curious about some stats for the heroes in a nice overview and found a spreadsheet. This had some obvious errors I fixed and did some reformatting to get all the useful information in 1 glance. Thought I might as well share it for others to use: Overview of hero stats You can change around the level and sort by colums you wish. May contain errors, I copied most of the data from an older version, added the latest heroes and fixed some obvious mistakes the previous person made like screwing up attack speed and attacks per second. Didn't check all numbers. Makes it easier to do some theorycraft, for example: Which heroes have the best DPS based on basic attacks? Could be useful perhaps for deciding which heroes match well with Rehgar's Bloodlust or ETC's trait. Also useful to know to determine how good a lifeleach talent would be on the hero. Answer: + Show Spoiler + Tychus, Raynor, Valla in that order Tychus doesn't benefit near as well as Valla does from Bloodlust. Raynor should be #1 with the right talents. Answer why: + Show Spoiler + Because he already has near max autoattack and a +% AS does a lot less for him, plus Valla has on hit talents so she gains more from Attack Speed than any other stat. Raynor has the highest autoattack damage in the game as well as the longest range AND (IIRC) Bloodlust affects the Banshees. So it should be Raynor, Valla, Tychus. Though Tychus does beat Valla if Valla goes arrow build instead of on-hit AND he's in the Odin when Bloodlust goes off. | ||
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kongoline
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
(when he comes, of course) | ||
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