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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
November 05 2014 17:44 GMT
#3481
people are already buying skins/ heroes in alpha so maybe hes writing about that
Coriolis
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
November 05 2014 17:45 GMT
#3482
On November 06 2014 01:33 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 01:29 Raisauce wrote:
Just got invited and I'm loving this game so far. Are there any glass cannon type Heroes that are ranged? I'm thinking Nova is, right?

Also, any speculations as to which new heroes they're going to announce at BlizzCon?

Nova and Tychus are probably the two best of the ranged assassins. They all do a lot of damage, though. Even Tassadar and the ranged specialists (Zagara and Nazeebo come to mind) can fit the bill for being glass cannons.

tychus is not anywhere near a glass cannon

hes probably the tankiest assassin with first aid, stoneskin, relentless, and odin
Descolada in everything not TL/Starcraft
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
November 05 2014 17:51 GMT
#3483
Yeah, i also got 3 accounts, and all trhee of them were invited to the alpha (in one of them i've got one, in the other one sc2, and the other one diablo 3, sc2, hearthtone and now heroes). I think they are inviting way more people now.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 05 2014 17:58 GMT
#3484
I have alpha access! Do we have a TL channel where we can meet others in Alpha?
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
November 05 2014 18:10 GMT
#3485
On November 06 2014 02:44 kongoline wrote:
people are already buying skins/ heroes in alpha so maybe hes writing about that

Yeah this game has been generating revenue for several months...
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17267 Posts
November 05 2014 18:15 GMT
#3486
On November 06 2014 02:44 kongoline wrote:
people are already buying skins/ heroes in alpha so maybe hes writing about that


they're expecting Heroes of the Storm to generate hundreds of millions of dollars from millions of users

smallest increment of money discussed in this quarterly update is $10 million and usually its $100 million increments.

ATVI would be criticized for wasting time during a very short (in terms of time) quarterly update regarding such a small amount of cash. They'd rather just not bring it up at all.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
November 05 2014 18:17 GMT
#3487
Got into alpha just on time for Blizzcon, might actually understand whats going on when the tournament happens.

So far the game feels much easier to get into than DotA 2 for example, might be my go to game when I want to play a PvP game but don't have the time or patience for DotA 2.

Not loving the paywall on heroes and having to grind a x amount of games to unlock abilities though.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 05 2014 18:57 GMT
#3488
Finally got enough gold to buy my first hero, Diablo. Man he sucks Zero damage output unless using his ulti beam. I was 1v1 vs a tassadar but he can just facetank him without any problems even though he is support.
His overpower skills does less damage than an auto attack...
Neosteel Enthusiast
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 05 2014 19:01 GMT
#3489
On November 06 2014 03:57 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Finally got enough gold to buy my first hero, Diablo. Man he sucks Zero damage output unless using his ulti beam. I was 1v1 vs a tassadar but he can just facetank him without any problems even though he is support.
His overpower skills does less damage than an auto attack...


He's the classic tank, High health, low damage, lots of disruption.
Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1111 Posts
November 05 2014 19:07 GMT
#3490
On November 06 2014 03:57 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Finally got enough gold to buy my first hero, Diablo. Man he sucks Zero damage output unless using his ulti beam. I was 1v1 vs a tassadar but he can just facetank him without any problems even though he is support.
His overpower skills does less damage than an auto attack...

Tassadar is very tanky though!
Playgu
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-05 19:26:44
November 05 2014 19:08 GMT
#3491
Muradin is pretty fun. My favorite champion so far. This game is extremely fun with my friends but solo que is really not fun. They should add a voice chat system like Dota 2 has I think.

Edit: Muradin build I have been using. Lvl 1 - Infused Hammer, Lvl 4 - Skull Cracker, Lvl 7 - Piercing Bolt, Lvl 10 - Avatar (I like to use Hay Maker on maps like Dragon Shire), Lvl 13 - Thunder Strike, Lvl 16 - Executioner, Lvl 20 this one really depends on what the state of the match is at when you reach lvl 20. This champion seems really versatile and is a blast to play. Add me guys, KingKosi#1331
Twitter: @KingKosi
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-05 19:13:58
November 05 2014 19:11 GMT
#3492
so far only warrior i played in this game who is closest to a bruiser was tyrael and even he does fall off late game pretty hard
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
November 05 2014 20:18 GMT
#3493
Im starting to wonder if trying new heroes in the rotation is a good idea, or just playing when the rotation starts. I go and play coop to unlock the talents and then go to versus mode, but when i play with new heroes, if i understand the mmr thing correctly, my mmr is lower, so im more likely to play with people new to the game or people trying new heroes, and so, my winrate is more likely to go down, instead if i play with heroes i've already got to lvl 10 and my mmr is a little higher, i've got less risk to lose. Im not saying im a great player, i think im average, but at least i know whats up.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 05 2014 20:28 GMT
#3494
On November 06 2014 05:18 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
my mmr is lower, so im more likely to play with people new to the game or people trying new heroes, and so, my winrate is more likely to go down

?
"I'm playing against worse opponents therefore i'm more likely to lose"
does that make any sense at all?

I'll admit in a game like heroes ur more reliant on ur teammates than in other games but it's literally impossible for a game to be harder to win when you have a lower mmr.

Its like saying "well im a masters SC2 player but on my silver smurf I feel like I lose 2v2s a lot because my teammate is so bad" like ur in masters just play well and win ez
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-05 20:37:46
November 05 2014 20:34 GMT
#3495
Well i mean, yeah im playing in a lower MMR, but in a heroe that although i've got all of the talents, im not as expereinced as with my "main heroes". And also if you play in lower MMR there are more chances of people i dont know, using the terror to defend, or using the plant against heroes and that kind of stuff. Also, when i play with my "mains" i notice way less people using free rotation heroes, while if i play with, lets say arthas, practically everyone is a free hero, except nova and valla.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Raisauce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada864 Posts
November 05 2014 20:47 GMT
#3496
On November 06 2014 05:34 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
Well i mean, yeah im playing in a lower MMR, but in a heroe that although i've got all of the talents, im not as expereinced as with my "main heroes". And also if you play in lower MMR there are more chances of people i dont know, using the terror to defend, or using the plant against heroes and that kind of stuff. Also, when i play with my "mains" i notice way less people using free rotation heroes, while if i play with, lets say arthas, practically everyone is a free hero, except nova and valla.



That means your enemies will be at a lower MMR as well so it doesn't matter. Your teammates skill level will be the same as your enemies skill level. The difference will be you and how well you play.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 05 2014 20:51 GMT
#3497
On November 06 2014 05:47 Raisauce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:34 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
Well i mean, yeah im playing in a lower MMR, but in a heroe that although i've got all of the talents, im not as expereinced as with my "main heroes". And also if you play in lower MMR there are more chances of people i dont know, using the terror to defend, or using the plant against heroes and that kind of stuff. Also, when i play with my "mains" i notice way less people using free rotation heroes, while if i play with, lets say arthas, practically everyone is a free hero, except nova and valla.



That means your enemies will be at a lower MMR as well so it doesn't matter. Your teammates skill level will be the same as your enemies skill level. The difference will be you and how well you play.


There are so many fallacies with this statement I don't know where to begin. I'll just let it sit as the most ridiculous thing I've read in a while.

Someone else handle it.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 05 2014 20:52 GMT
#3498
On November 06 2014 05:51 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 05:47 Raisauce wrote:
On November 06 2014 05:34 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
Well i mean, yeah im playing in a lower MMR, but in a heroe that although i've got all of the talents, im not as expereinced as with my "main heroes". And also if you play in lower MMR there are more chances of people i dont know, using the terror to defend, or using the plant against heroes and that kind of stuff. Also, when i play with my "mains" i notice way less people using free rotation heroes, while if i play with, lets say arthas, practically everyone is a free hero, except nova and valla.



That means your enemies will be at a lower MMR as well so it doesn't matter. Your teammates skill level will be the same as your enemies skill level. The difference will be you and how well you play.


There are so many fallacies with this statement I don't know where to begin. I'll just let it sit as the most ridiculous thing I've read in a while.

Someone else handle it.

dunno dude he's literally exactly right so
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
November 05 2014 21:14 GMT
#3499
On November 06 2014 03:57 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Finally got enough gold to buy my first hero, Diablo. Man he sucks Zero damage output unless using his ulti beam. I was 1v1 vs a tassadar but he can just facetank him without any problems even though he is support.
His overpower skills does less damage than an auto attack...


Diablo not meant to do damage. He has two skills that relocate the enemy and one that farms minion souls. His ability is (1) the highest potential health pool in the game and (2) the ability to get an enemy way out of position so some bursty assassin can kill it. If you're going solo with Diablo, you're doing it wrong.

Also, Tassadar is OP as fuck.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-05 21:17:39
November 05 2014 21:15 GMT
#3500
On November 06 2014 05:18 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
Im starting to wonder if trying new heroes in the rotation is a good idea, or just playing when the rotation starts. I go and play coop to unlock the talents and then go to versus mode, but when i play with new heroes, if i understand the mmr thing correctly, my mmr is lower, so im more likely to play with people new to the game or people trying new heroes, and so, my winrate is more likely to go down, instead if i play with heroes i've already got to lvl 10 and my mmr is a little higher, i've got less risk to lose. Im not saying im a great player, i think im average, but at least i know whats up.

I've found that there's a big difference between whom I'm paired with when I play Tassadar (my level 9 main) vs the free rotation champs that I'm leveling to 5. It could just be a coincidence, but the other players in my Tassadar games seem much, much better and the games are more intense.

EDIT: And yeah, I agree that Tassadar is probably OP as fuck. I feel like I can control and influence games with him in ways that I can't playing anyone else.

EDIT: And if you want to play a tank, get Arthas. He's such a beast in teamfights with all of his disruption and massive healing pool. It's like taking a massive dump in the middle of the enemy team.
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