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Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
November 05 2014 09:00 GMT
#3461
I constantly get the feeling that certain players are really good at their heroes. It's much more pronounced with certain heroes than others but it's still pretty obvious to me. It's also more than apparent when they are on your own team. Of the heroes where it's the most apparent, I would say Illidan, Abathur, Nova, Zeratul, Valla, Brightwing, and some others make skill the most apparent.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
November 05 2014 09:38 GMT
#3462
It's just a fundamental difference between how Dota and League handles its spells. League likes its spammable skillshot pokes, because otherwise laning would be really really dull without denying and other creep manipulation mechanics.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-05 11:15:10
November 05 2014 11:14 GMT
#3463
Altough i like the map mechanics and the goal oriented gameplay, it makes the game too goal oriented. Specially in Blackheart Bay and Haunted Mines.
I think more specialized Heroes, more focus on map control. More skirmishes and less full team battles. I feel like those should be avoided most of the time, but that is not how it is atm.
This could make the game more tactics and strategy focused, not making micro any easier (but maybe a little less important).
I guess it can be less exciting for most of the audience? But im sure i would enjoy it much more.
For example, in Garden of Terror the shamblers (and thus seeds) could be spread out more. Suddenly if the stream of creeps moves toward the nexus you "lose" a shambler spawn point (its not safe anymore without structures protecting and in enemy vision provided by creeps). Even removing the terror (the one that you kill for seeds) and making the night never ending, could be an additional positive change.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
November 05 2014 11:52 GMT
#3464
So if Heroes suddenly appeared in my launcher and I am able to install it does that mean I got an invite? The battle.net page is down, I can't check :/. I didn't enter a code or anything.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
November 05 2014 11:59 GMT
#3465
Nono, though you should totally give me your account details so I can... confirm.

+ Show Spoiler +
Just kidding, yes it means you got invited. Grats!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
November 05 2014 12:01 GMT
#3466
On November 05 2014 20:59 KeksX wrote:
Nono, though you should totally give me your account details so I can... confirm.

+ Show Spoiler +
Just kidding, yes it means you got invited. Grats!


Hehe, thank you, didn't want to install it for nothing. Guess I know what I'll do until BlizzCon now .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 05 2014 12:27 GMT
#3467
On November 05 2014 21:01 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 20:59 KeksX wrote:
Nono, though you should totally give me your account details so I can... confirm.

+ Show Spoiler +
Just kidding, yes it means you got invited. Grats!


Hehe, thank you, didn't want to install it for nothing. Guess I know what I'll do until BlizzCon now .

Oh man and i am still waiting and can't play it
Have fun though! (Binding of Isaac, here i come)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
November 05 2014 12:29 GMT
#3468
servers seem to terrible today. Some sort of bug that you get into the screen with options and exit game only and you can't resume. Also lots of drops. Fairly annoying to get dropped 4 times in a row around lvl 18.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
November 05 2014 13:14 GMT
#3469
Well, Dawngate is going down, decided to try out heroes of the storm last night. Gonna take some getting used to no shop, but so far I'm kinda liking Muradin.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-05 13:39:18
November 05 2014 13:38 GMT
#3470
On November 05 2014 22:14 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, Dawngate is going down, decided to try out heroes of the storm last night. Gonna take some getting used to no shop, but so far I'm kinda liking Muradin.

"Decided to try out?"
How are you guys doing that? "Oh yeah I just totally had that invite lying around that you have to sacrifice your firstborn for to get in, big deal."
I'm not jealous at all. Not one bit.

Meanwhile, people creating dozens of accounts and are selling them for 70€+ .................................... Damn I hate that system.
kiryah
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)65 Posts
November 05 2014 13:53 GMT
#3471
On November 05 2014 22:38 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 22:14 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, Dawngate is going down, decided to try out heroes of the storm last night. Gonna take some getting used to no shop, but so far I'm kinda liking Muradin.

"Decided to try out?"
How are you guys doing that? "Oh yeah I just totally had that invite lying around that you have to sacrifice your firstborn for to get in, big deal."
I'm not jealous at all. Not one bit.

Meanwhile, people creating dozens of accounts and are selling them for 70€+ .................................... Damn I hate that system.


Lol, randomly looked into this thread to see if anything new. Saw you guys talking about the game in launcher and no email. Decided to check my launcher . Unfortunately, I have to get plat in LoL first. I'll let you know how it is~
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
November 05 2014 15:08 GMT
#3472
The only remotely interesting hero in HOTS is abathur, all the rest are so generic.

And no, in DOTA2 you can definitely spam some of the more mana expensive spells with bottle crowing, and some heroes have innately mana cheap spells they can spam even without bottles (sticky nalpam, quill spray, nasal goo etc.)

It's important to have both high-impact, expensive spells as well as low-impact spammy spells in a game to create interesting game dynamic and spectating experience. When all you have are low-impact, spammy spells, the game might b fun to play, but definitely not fun to watch.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
November 05 2014 15:23 GMT
#3473
On November 05 2014 22:38 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 22:14 57 Corvette wrote:
Well, Dawngate is going down, decided to try out heroes of the storm last night. Gonna take some getting used to no shop, but so far I'm kinda liking Muradin.

"Decided to try out?"
How are you guys doing that? "Oh yeah I just totally had that invite lying around that you have to sacrifice your firstborn for to get in, big deal."
I'm not jealous at all. Not one bit.

Meanwhile, people creating dozens of accounts and are selling them for 70€+ .................................... Damn I hate that system.


I got an invite about a month ago, but was too focused on Dawngate and the upcoming Borderlands presequel to play. Now DG is going down and I'm waiting for DLC for the presequel, thought I'd finally give it a try.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 05 2014 15:37 GMT
#3474
League spells with the exception of ultimates, summoners and some other spells are all incredibly spammy yet its still fun to play and watch. I think its fine if they can make it work, while I prefer Dota's model I am sure a lot prefer League/HOTS.
WriterXiao8~~
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
November 05 2014 16:06 GMT
#3475
So the tutorial and the first few games were quite fun, but I won't be grinding Heroes any time soon. But I think that's just because I was never big into mobas, the game is certainly good. I can see myself playing this with friends from time to time more than LoL/Dota. It's quite simple and the talent system feels intuitive and you don't feel the urge to look up item guides. Not sure if this is good or bad for competitive play, but for fun games with friends it feels great. The shorther game length helps too!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
November 05 2014 16:07 GMT
#3476
On November 05 2014 21:27 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 21:01 Musicus wrote:
On November 05 2014 20:59 KeksX wrote:
Nono, though you should totally give me your account details so I can... confirm.

+ Show Spoiler +
Just kidding, yes it means you got invited. Grats!


Hehe, thank you, didn't want to install it for nothing. Guess I know what I'll do until BlizzCon now .

Oh man and i am still waiting and can't play it
Have fun though! (Binding of Isaac, here i come)


Thanks . I see I was not the only one who lost a sig bet haha.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Raisauce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada864 Posts
November 05 2014 16:29 GMT
#3477
Just got invited and I'm loving this game so far. Are there any glass cannon type Heroes that are ranged? I'm thinking Nova is, right?

Also, any speculations as to which new heroes they're going to announce at BlizzCon?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 05 2014 16:33 GMT
#3478
On November 06 2014 01:29 Raisauce wrote:
Just got invited and I'm loving this game so far. Are there any glass cannon type Heroes that are ranged? I'm thinking Nova is, right?

Also, any speculations as to which new heroes they're going to announce at BlizzCon?

Nova and Tychus are probably the two best of the ranged assassins. They all do a lot of damage, though. Even Tassadar and the ranged specialists (Zagara and Nazeebo come to mind) can fit the bill for being glass cannons.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9447 Posts
November 05 2014 16:42 GMT
#3479
It's quite simple and the talent system feels intuitive and you don't feel the urge to look up item guides.


This is also exactly why I like talen-system better than items.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17718 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-05 17:06:03
November 05 2014 17:02 GMT
#3480
according to Robert Kotick at the ATVI Investor call: Heroes of the Storm will begin generating revenue in 2015. see source at bottom.
i think we're in for a paid closed beta test via a "founders pack".
After a beta test several months long it will finally be given a general F2P release for all the public.

i have 6 BNet account with 4 of them being sent invites to this "Technical Alpha".
is everyone and his uncle in this alpha or what?

source:
http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ACTI/3603589008x0x791264/7784d3c3-4366-4b3f-b519-bf4c784a3f3c/Q3_2014_ATVI_Slides.pdf
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
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