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Solmyr
Poland261 Posts
Maybe ryzen would try something like that. | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9TspgFU.png) 3 stealth minions for Rogue so far in this set. | ||
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
Rogue is completely fine. I prob played the most games with rogue in the last months. You have Malygos rogue, Burgle rogue and Auctioneer/Conceal rogue which are all viable and some of the more interesting and fun decks to play. Mill Rogue and Reno rogue are also kinda viable. With priest getting stronger rogue will get a boost as well. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
And yes, old Blade Flurry was really strong. It might as well have read "Your hero gains windfury this turn. Your weapon gains Deathrattle: Deal damage to all enemy minions equal to this weapon's attack" | ||
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Hellonslaught
Brazil0 Posts
On November 26 2016 19:31 Kenpark wrote: With priest getting stronger rogue will get a boost as well. I am interested to hear why do you think priest are getting stronger? Dragon Priest is getting stronger and thats about it. This expansion will be pretty harsh on priest because Jade Mechanics has the potencial to push away all control priest decks other then Dragon. | ||
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Melliflue
United Kingdom1389 Posts
On November 27 2016 00:35 Hellonslaught wrote: I am interested to hear why do you think priest are getting stronger? Dragon Priest is getting stronger and thats about it. This expansion will be pretty harsh on priest because Jade Mechanics has the potencial to push away all control priest decks other then Dragon. Priest is receiving early game help as well as a good board clear. Potion of Madness could be excellent against aggro decks, and Dragonfire Potion will help any slow priest deck, even if it is not a dragon deck. It is an okay substitute for Lightbomb. Moreover, we don't know if the Jade Golem mechanic will be any good. So far, a deck can include at most 11 cards that summon a Jade Golem. You would need to summon five Jade Golems before the next Jade Golem is too strong for Dragonfire Potion. However, Priest would still have Shadow Word: Death and Entomb (and even Mind Control) to deal with very big Jade Golems. And still Priest could play Ragnaros and Sylvanas which would be good against golems. I think a deck with Jaraxxus would be much better against a control priest deck than a Jade Golem deck. | ||
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
Also I'm immensely annoyed at their expressed stance on Rogue. No healing and no AoE means it's a class relegated to being bad any time Hunter sees play, and can never ever opt to play a control deck, because the tools will just never be there. I want to play more than just aggro and combo as Rogue, but they just don't seem interested. Their hero power is so disjointed, how can you give Rogues a hero power that causes so much self-inflicted damage, and then give them 0 options to heal back up from all that damage? It makes no sense, and makes Rogue feel broken. If their answer to this is that I'm the one who has a problem with Hearthstone, and Hearthstone itself is working as intended, then maybe I am barking up the wrong tree, and this design team isn't much better than SC2's. I hope they prove me wrong. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
Unless something else changes, the legendaries I will craft (if I don't open them) will be Kazakus, Solia and White Eyes. | ||
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Hellonslaught
Brazil0 Posts
On November 26 2016 19:31 Kenpark wrote: Priest is receiving early game help as well as a good board clear. Potion of Madness could be excellent against aggro decks, and Dragonfire Potion will help any slow priest deck, even if it is not a dragon deck. It is an okay substitute for Lightbomb. Potion of madness isn't exactly as good as you believe. There are very few 2/x creatures on meta and those minions are not getting removed by its effect alone most of the time. Dragonfire Potion won't work as a consistent removal outside Dragon Decks. Some examples: - Spell mage: Does not kill Azure Drake which is a big threat - Malygos Druid: Arcane Golens - C'thun Druid: Most things survives except Thaurissan - Dragon Warrior: Almost useless - Control Warrior: Useless - Zoo: Works fine - Hunter: Decent but Hunter has too many D.rattles. Same problen Lighbomb had back in naxx. - Rogue: Very good - Shaman: Very good - Priest: USELESS against Dragon Priest, and meh against all other control decks. Dragonfire Potion is fine in Dragon decks as a tempo card to ensure dragons stick long enough to close the game and thats about it. It won't be near as fexible like Lightbomb once was. | ||
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Hellonslaught
Brazil0 Posts
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Tal
United Kingdom1015 Posts
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On November 27 2016 23:09 Schelim wrote: the first body is almost on curve itself. pretty nuts. Which isn't good enough. This card is really, really good against other control decks. With ancestral and reincarnate, you can delay fatigue. And Shaman can clear alright. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On November 27 2016 11:53 NewSunshine wrote: Also I'm immensely annoyed at their expressed stance on Rogue. No healing and no AoE means it's a class relegated to being bad any time Hunter sees play, and can never ever opt to play a control deck, because the tools will just never be there. I want to play more than just aggro and combo as Rogue, but they just don't seem interested. Their hero power is so disjointed, how can you give Rogues a hero power that causes so much self-inflicted damage, and then give them 0 options to heal back up from all that damage? It makes no sense, and makes Rogue feel broken. If their answer to this is that I'm the one who has a problem with Hearthstone, and Hearthstone itself is working as intended, then maybe I am barking up the wrong tree, and this design team isn't much better than SC2's. I hope they prove me wrong. To play devil's advocate here, I personally feel that Rouge if any class is very tricky to balance correctly. You cannot ignore Preparation when designing spells. That doesn't mean make them useless without it, but you need to have it in mind. Rogue also has pretty good burst damage potential, and you cannot ignore that as well. I am all for Rogue getting heals, but I am a bit hesitant on AoEs. I know this isn't going to be popular, but playing against the old Blade Flurry was not funny at all imho. Also, isn't Rogue the only class that has been featured in all Blizzcon winners lineups? | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On November 28 2016 03:12 WindWolf wrote: To play devil's advocate here, I personally feel that Rouge if any class is very tricky to balance correctly. You cannot ignore Preparation when designing spells. That doesn't mean make them useless without it, but you need to have it in mind. Rogue also has pretty good burst damage potential, and you cannot ignore that as well. I am all for Rogue getting heals, but I am a bit hesitant on AoEs. I know this isn't going to be popular, but playing against the old Blade Flurry was not funny at all imho. Also, isn't Rogue the only class that has been featured in all Blizzcon winners lineups? And I'll be the first person to say the old Blade Flurry was broken as shit. But what made it broken wasn't the fact that it was an AoE spell, what made it broken was that it was AoE, and face damage, and it only cost 2 mana. There's nothing inherently broken about Rogue receiving an AoE spell, and the fact remains that if you try to play any kind of Rogue that isn't aggro or Miracle, you will feel that lack of AoE big time. Same with healing. Like the cards Shaman is getting, it's possible to get new cards that don't work in faster decks, because though White Eyes is powerful, it's not something you're going to profit from much if you don't plan on going late game. Same with their new healer. Hell, even putting the effect on a minion sidesteps the design space occupied by Preparation and Auctioneer. There are ways to make these cards. Blizzard just doesn't want to. | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
As it is it looks more useful in a Grimy Goons deck probably? But Pala has better ways with their comboclears. Why even make this a Legendary, Blizzard getting greedy on this Exp. | ||
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