EPTMean Streets of Gadgetzan Announced - Page 15
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Wuster
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Inzan1ty
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![[image loading]](http://media-hearth.cursecdn.com/avatars/308/515/636155925786677354.png) ![[image loading]](http://media-hearth.cursecdn.com/avatars/308/527/636155980090603359.png) Almost useless for Druid, this isn't even a Beast. AoE ?!?!?!? | ||
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
On November 25 2016 05:28 Inzan1ty wrote: Well it IS the ultimate late game control card, since it not only prevents you from Fatique, it also makes sure you'll have a constant infinite threat (Big Golems) to close out these games, and it IS an unfair advantage against Warrior/Priest. The hype/shitstorm it gets is mostly justified, whats more important however, the whole deck is what remains to be seen. Since Druid is unlikely to get their boardclear it might as well be that their current Powerlevel meta-wise only receives a slight boost at best, since any Matchup against Aggro and Mid Range is rather unfavourable and Jade Idol doesn't help here. i'am calling it here, Shaman and Hunter will be dominating class. Nah it is pretty bad, as say a one of in any regular deck to win control mu's. First of it is a dead draw. Then you put 3 more basiacaly dead draws in your deck. It might be ok vs very slow no win condition decks like priest or warrior, but vs any N'Zoth version for example you are doomed anyway as a druid. It takes way to long to get online to be of any use. By this time you are facing like I said N'Zoth which is autowin vs druid or like 3 20/20 C'Thuns. It is only op in Kripp's twisted value mind. This will see no play, other than gimmicky Gadgetzan/Fatigue w/e deck. Or Jade druid ofc, but I doubt Jade will be better than any regular druid, since Token/ Maly have some great synergy with the nature of mana "cheating" druid and the cards we already have. | ||
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d00p
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
Or anyone with common sense... I at least will enjoy my 1 Mana 6-6 Golems. + Show Spoiler + Kripp ist übrigens kein schlechter Spieler  | ||
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
On November 25 2016 21:37 Inzan1ty wrote: "It is only OP in Kripp's twisted value mind" Or anyone with common sense... I at least will enjoy my 1 Mana 6-6 Golems. + Show Spoiler + Kripp ist übrigens kein schlechter Spieler Well we will see I guess. "Any druid that put one of these in his deck will never lose the fatigue game, thats busted" -Kripp So you draw your first, shuffle three more in. That is one completely dead draw. Now you have 3 more almost dead draws in your deck, which is a really bad thing if the game doesnt go to fatigue. You now have two to play so you get a 1/1 a 2/2 und the next you obv wanna shuffle back right ? So now we are at 4 almost dead draws. How can this be any good ? You would need a massive draw engine for this to be any good. And even then if you lets say get a Gadzetan up and draw a bunch of cards, you are probably better off drawing all your burn in a Malygos deck and do like 30 damage vs something like priest. | ||
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
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Enjun
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On November 25 2016 22:08 WindWolf wrote: Unless you want a 2/3 rather than a 3/2, I don't see the reason to run this over Youthful Brewmaster The thing is that if you have a board Youthful Brewmaster is a tempolosing 'return to hand'-effect by default. This minion can be played to get the shadowstep value but can also be played for Tempo if it's the first card you play. | ||
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Enjun
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On November 25 2016 22:22 Kenpark wrote: Well we will see I guess. "Any druid that put one of these in his deck will never lose the fatigue game, thats busted" -Kripp So you draw your first, shuffle three more in. That is one completely dead draw. Now you have 3 more almost dead draws in your deck, which is a really bad thing if the game doesnt go to fatigue. You now have two to play so you get a 1/1 a 2/2 und the next you obv wanna shuffle back right ? So now we are at 4 almost dead draws. How can this be any good ? You would need a massive draw engine for this to be any good. And even then if you lets say get a Gadzetan up and draw a bunch of cards, you are probably better off drawing all your burn in a Malygos deck and do like 30 damage vs something like priest. It would be busted in the way described if druid had a universal board clear like Twisting Nether, Equality-combos, Brawl or to a lesser degree Light Bomb. So I suppose you could try it in Wild where you have acces to Poison Seeds+Starfall or Explosive Sheep+Poison Seed. | ||
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
On November 25 2016 23:01 Enjun wrote: The thing is that if you have a board Youthful Brewmaster is a tempolosing 'return to hand'-effect by default. This minion can be played to get the shadowstep value but can also be played for Tempo if it's the first card you play. It is not 'shadowstep value' since it doesnt reduce the costs. Lets just agree it is useless garbage. Rogue is certainly not getting much love this Expansion. | ||
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Hearken
United Kingdom0 Posts
On November 25 2016 23:33 Inzan1ty wrote: It is not 'shadowstep value' since it doesnt reduce the costs. Lets just agree it is useless trashcard. Rogue is certainly not getting much love this Expansion. I'm really hoping that Jade claw looking thing is a new Rogue weapon! We'll find out in the next couple of hours I guess. Though it's probably just another Druid card  | ||
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Malhavoc
Italy308 Posts
It is not 'shadowstep value' since it doesnt reduce the costs. Lets just agree it is useless garbage. Far from it. Of course it's very specific, like Shadowstep is. It doesn't reduce the minion's cost, but unlike shadowstep it's not a useless card in your starting hand, or when you topdeck it with a board with nothing worth bouncing. I could find it useful in a tempo deck which wouldn't dislike a simple 2/3 on turn two, but at the same time runs a good amount of battlecry/charge minions worth shadowstepping later to gain additional value. In this scenario, it's a sort of 2/3 which later in tha game also gets and additional battlecry + minion heal by paying a bit more mana. And if jade statues are actually good for rogue, this minion will be played for sure! | ||
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Hearken
United Kingdom0 Posts
![[image loading]](http://media-hearth.cursecdn.com/avatars/308/578/636156693637852600.png) Interesting. Nice to see some unique card text. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
After some thinking: this is pretty good for mill decks | ||
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Hearken
United Kingdom0 Posts
On November 26 2016 02:46 WindWolf wrote: My spontaneous reaction: maybe a tech card vs. rogue After some thinking: this is pretty good for mill decks Naturalise combo value | ||
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Solmyr
Poland261 Posts
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
Obviously, the dream scenario won't happen often, but unlike, for instance, Animated Armor, it has to be dealt with immediately, and unlike Questing Adventurer, its base stats aren't incredibly weak for the cost. | ||
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Melliflue
United Kingdom1389 Posts
It's great with Innervate though. | ||
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