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It depends on what type of decks you enjoy playing. Renolock with Kazakus is pretty amazing. I've also enjoyed toying around with a Reno shadowpriest. Full cycle druid with Jade Idol was also interesting because of ramping not only crystals but also jade golems - it was incredibly satisfying to reach endgame with an auctioneer and a "empty" deck except for Jade Idols - swarming the board with 7,8,9,10,11,12/12 jade golems.
Currently trying to make a hunter deck that works and boy is ratpack good. The value of the card is insane.
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I've actually had decent success with Reno Priest built into a dragon shell (Kazakus / Raza the Chained / Justicar Trueheart). Unfortunately my build will totally die when the standard rotation changes.
Also have had probably even more success with a fairly standard Jade Shaman. I can only recall losing to pirate warriors with a nut-draw and losing to a Priest because I d/c.
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Play Kripparians OTK Reno priest. That deck is insane fun.
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Thanks guys, will check out some of those decks 
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On December 08 2016 17:46 Ghostcom wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2016 15:02 Wuster wrote:On December 08 2016 10:46 Kenpark wrote:On December 08 2016 08:15 Ghostcom wrote:
Yeah, it has been very frustrating trying to find decks which could deal with both. I've had a little success with hunter, but in the end, not really. Some with full cycle druid (i.e. only jade idol / jade blossom for jade golems - rest cycle pretty much like the Malygos druid (though I added 2xColdlight Oracle)). Cant really figure out what to climb with. Yes its really hard to play anything else. The thing is with a lot of decks you dont have bad mu's vs either, you have almost unwinnable mu's vs either Reno Lock or Shaman/Warrior Pirate. A deck with taunts and heal/armor say taunt warrior or some weird priest with a lot of heal can win vs aggro but gets crushed 95% by the Reno decks. Same for the other extreme. I played some Jade N'zoth Rogue. The Synergy with Aya and the new 1/1 deathrattle guy for rogue is amazing. But even with all the tempo cards in rogue's arsenal, there is no way to survive the face damage of Pirate warrior without any heal or taunts. You might just wanna concede or get really lucky with van Cleef in 1 out of 10 games and race them. The only deck I feel comfortable right now if I care for my rank is Reno Lock. There is no I do this class quest now while climbing. There is some potential in slower Shaman variants imo, but man is this meta unforgiving right now. Dont get me wrong its still better than Shamanstone and the Reno decks are really fun to play, but I guess you got my point. Take my scrub league take with a grain of salt, but slower Shaman gets crushed by Dragon Priest. Unless there's a slower deck than the midrange-Jade variants I've seen on hearthpwn. That depends on the exact shaman build I think. But generally the priest is going to shit on you (and if you tech towards priest you'll get crushed by everything else). I agree though, the meta is refreshing. I would've liked it to be a little less rock/paper/scissor (i.e. the counters are too strong imo), but outside of that I'm not really complaining. Just struggling to find a good deck
The "rock/paper/scissors" with the hard counters is a bit frustrating. But many Hearthstone cards now are so good at what they do (except healing) that it is not worthwhile teching against certain decks but instead focusing on what your deck wants to do and hoping they don't kill you first. Maybe teching will become more useful once the meta settles down.
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On December 10 2016 05:00 Melliflue wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2016 17:46 Ghostcom wrote:On December 08 2016 15:02 Wuster wrote:On December 08 2016 10:46 Kenpark wrote:On December 08 2016 08:15 Ghostcom wrote:
Yeah, it has been very frustrating trying to find decks which could deal with both. I've had a little success with hunter, but in the end, not really. Some with full cycle druid (i.e. only jade idol / jade blossom for jade golems - rest cycle pretty much like the Malygos druid (though I added 2xColdlight Oracle)). Cant really figure out what to climb with. Yes its really hard to play anything else. The thing is with a lot of decks you dont have bad mu's vs either, you have almost unwinnable mu's vs either Reno Lock or Shaman/Warrior Pirate. A deck with taunts and heal/armor say taunt warrior or some weird priest with a lot of heal can win vs aggro but gets crushed 95% by the Reno decks. Same for the other extreme. I played some Jade N'zoth Rogue. The Synergy with Aya and the new 1/1 deathrattle guy for rogue is amazing. But even with all the tempo cards in rogue's arsenal, there is no way to survive the face damage of Pirate warrior without any heal or taunts. You might just wanna concede or get really lucky with van Cleef in 1 out of 10 games and race them. The only deck I feel comfortable right now if I care for my rank is Reno Lock. There is no I do this class quest now while climbing. There is some potential in slower Shaman variants imo, but man is this meta unforgiving right now. Dont get me wrong its still better than Shamanstone and the Reno decks are really fun to play, but I guess you got my point. Take my scrub league take with a grain of salt, but slower Shaman gets crushed by Dragon Priest. Unless there's a slower deck than the midrange-Jade variants I've seen on hearthpwn. That depends on the exact shaman build I think. But generally the priest is going to shit on you (and if you tech towards priest you'll get crushed by everything else). I agree though, the meta is refreshing. I would've liked it to be a little less rock/paper/scissor (i.e. the counters are too strong imo), but outside of that I'm not really complaining. Just struggling to find a good deck The "rock/paper/scissors" with the hard counters is a bit frustrating. But many Hearthstone cards now are so good at what they do (except healing) that it is not worthwhile teching against certain decks but instead focusing on what your deck wants to do and hoping they don't kill you first. Maybe teching will become more useful once the meta settles down.
I think the idea of teching in the current state of Hearthstone is frankly an awful idea, and it hasn't much to do with the meta. As long as their philosophy dictates that tech cards are semi-vanilla minions with lukewarm effects, they're never going to do the job they're supposed to do. The way tech cards look, even in Mean Streets, you're wasting your time even thinking about them. If you're going to tech, it needs to be with your deck strategy, which goes a bit beyond merely teching. Tech cards need to be amazing against a particular deck, and bad against all others, whereas right now they're slightly below par against most decks, and only slightly above par against the target deck. They're not bold enough.
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Well I guess it didnt take long for people to figure out what happens, when you just put the pirate package into the class with the strongest 1,2, drops and a 4 mana 7/7. The "new" shaman variant with Lava Burst and stuff got to be one of the fastest decks in the history of hearthstone. Flametongue is so insane in this deck with Patches.
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+ Show Spoiler +On December 11 2016 11:20 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2016 05:00 Melliflue wrote:On December 08 2016 17:46 Ghostcom wrote:On December 08 2016 15:02 Wuster wrote:On December 08 2016 10:46 Kenpark wrote:On December 08 2016 08:15 Ghostcom wrote:
Yeah, it has been very frustrating trying to find decks which could deal with both. I've had a little success with hunter, but in the end, not really. Some with full cycle druid (i.e. only jade idol / jade blossom for jade golems - rest cycle pretty much like the Malygos druid (though I added 2xColdlight Oracle)). Cant really figure out what to climb with. Yes its really hard to play anything else. The thing is with a lot of decks you dont have bad mu's vs either, you have almost unwinnable mu's vs either Reno Lock or Shaman/Warrior Pirate. A deck with taunts and heal/armor say taunt warrior or some weird priest with a lot of heal can win vs aggro but gets crushed 95% by the Reno decks. Same for the other extreme. I played some Jade N'zoth Rogue. The Synergy with Aya and the new 1/1 deathrattle guy for rogue is amazing. But even with all the tempo cards in rogue's arsenal, there is no way to survive the face damage of Pirate warrior without any heal or taunts. You might just wanna concede or get really lucky with van Cleef in 1 out of 10 games and race them. The only deck I feel comfortable right now if I care for my rank is Reno Lock. There is no I do this class quest now while climbing. There is some potential in slower Shaman variants imo, but man is this meta unforgiving right now. Dont get me wrong its still better than Shamanstone and the Reno decks are really fun to play, but I guess you got my point. Take my scrub league take with a grain of salt, but slower Shaman gets crushed by Dragon Priest. Unless there's a slower deck than the midrange-Jade variants I've seen on hearthpwn. That depends on the exact shaman build I think. But generally the priest is going to shit on you (and if you tech towards priest you'll get crushed by everything else). I agree though, the meta is refreshing. I would've liked it to be a little less rock/paper/scissor (i.e. the counters are too strong imo), but outside of that I'm not really complaining. Just struggling to find a good deck The "rock/paper/scissors" with the hard counters is a bit frustrating. But many Hearthstone cards now are so good at what they do (except healing) that it is not worthwhile teching against certain decks but instead focusing on what your deck wants to do and hoping they don't kill you first. Maybe teching will become more useful once the meta settles down. I think the idea of teching in the current state of Hearthstone is frankly an awful idea, and it hasn't much to do with the meta. As long as their philosophy dictates that tech cards are semi-vanilla minions with lukewarm effects, they're never going to do the job they're supposed to do. The way tech cards look, even in Mean Streets, you're wasting your time even thinking about them. If you're going to tech, it needs to be with your deck strategy, which goes a bit beyond merely teching. Tech cards need to be amazing against a particular deck, and bad against all others, whereas right now they're slightly below par against most decks, and only slightly above par against the target deck. They're not bold enough.
I "tech" right now by running double Ooze in my 2-slot. lol
+ Show Spoiler +On December 13 2016 22:48 Kenpark wrote:
Well I guess it didnt take long for people to figure out what happens, when you just put the pirate package into the class with the strongest 1,2, drops and a 4 mana 7/7. The "new" shaman variant with Lava Burst and stuff got to be one of the fastest decks in the history of hearthstone. Flametongue is so insane in this deck with Patches.
Yuck.
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