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yooh
China223 Posts
for a while i kept getting nightmares i was afraid to sleep lol | ||
micronesia
United States24777 Posts
On June 16 2009 01:26 yooh wrote: do yooh have any solutions to nightmares?? ._. for a while i kept getting nightmares i was afraid to sleep lol I have nightmares on a daily basis... but they actually make me afraid of waking up. Seriously, I don't know much about treating nightmares specifically, although I would suggest using the guide to see if there are any sleep habits or thoughts that you can improve. This might indirectly help reduce the occurrences of nightmares. However, if the nightmares are a symptom then you need to figure out what is causing them... | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
 Seems like I have delayed phase disorder T_T Is there any way to reduce sleep without having a proper sleep/exercise schedule? I'm asking because on days that I don't have shit to do, I regularly sleep over 10 and even 12 hours. I've noticed although I'm a heavy sleeper, I can wake up in time without an alarm clock when I have something very important in the morning. I guess that's where the 'mindset-is-important-in-sleep' comes in? o_O Also, I have trouble eating after pulling an all-nighter. I know I should be hungry after 10+ hours of no food but I have no appetite  | ||
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GoSu
Korea (South)1773 Posts
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intothewrx
United States9 Posts
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micronesia
United States24777 Posts
On June 19 2009 14:41 intothewrx wrote: quality. This has made a big impact on my life. thank you No problem. Coincidentally I drove an 09 WRX yesterday. | ||
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Horangee
Germany1 Post
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micronesia
United States24777 Posts
On June 22 2009 15:22 Horangee wrote: Thank you very much for this guide, Micronesia No problem. I hope it helped. I'm glad it dragged you out of the woodwork mr. 1 post :D | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
Cure: Smoke pot | ||
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
On June 15 2009 05:24 HuskyTheHusky wrote: I also love the post from the air traffic controller, good stuff! I guess that was me. Thank you. On June 22 2009 15:38 micronesia wrote: I'm surprised nobody expressed a specific interest in either shift work, jet lag, or infants' sleep. I'd be willing to provide a little extra on any of those. I am actually interested in tips about shift work. My shift patern is as follows : Day 1 : early morning shift : ie wake up @ 5:30 or so Day 2 : day shift : wake up between 7:30 and 9:00 (depending on the actual shift) Day 3 : late afternoon shift or night shift, so I wake up naturally between 8 and 9 usually Days 4 & 5 : days off (wake up between 8 & 9) Days 6 & 7 : new shift pattern (ie, day 1 & 2 again) or days off if last shift was a night shift I have 2 problems. First one is, I can never get to sleep early before an early morning shift. I usually fall asleep around 12:00 (as usual), and 5,5h of sleep is more often than not too little sleep for me. I often feel sleepy all day long but cannot always nap. Funny (?) thing is, the moment of the day I feel most awake is between 10 and 12 PM. What can ruin my night, and subsequently my following day. When I manage to get around 7 hours of sleep, early mornings feel like normal days, so a few tips to fall asleep 1h earlier would be welcome. Second problem is some night shifts. They come in 4 kind, 3 of which cause me no problem. The problemtic shift starts @ 8 PM. I work until 12PM or so, then have dinner at work with my whole working team until 1:30 AM (!) , and then start working again from 3:30 AM till 6:30. I often "sleep" from 2:00 to 3:30, but this is way not enough. I have trouble staying awake through the rest of the shift. I could have dinner before going to work and hence sleep between 12:00 and 3:30, but I don't feel sleepy at all at 12 PM (and I would miss the whole social aspect of having dinner with my colleagues, what would lower my popularity as much as, say, praising GG.net on a TL.net forum). Any idea of what could get me through the night ? Thnks a lot for your guide again. Too bad you didn't get that Beta key. | ||
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Macavenger
United States1132 Posts
On June 19 2009 00:21 Heen wrote: Also, I have trouble eating after pulling an all-nighter. I know I should be hungry after 10+ hours of no food but I have no appetite I didn't actually have a whole lot of trouble going to the dining hall for "breakfast" during all nighters in college. As long as I was still up and going, I'd continue to get hungry. Possibly related though is that I do often have difficulty eating after a night of short sleep - if I get some sleep but have to get up way earlier than I should for the time I went to bed, my stomach usually doesn't feel so good in the morning and food just doesn't sound to good. I suspect this has to do with the fact that low sleep has messed up your biological rhythms and it carries over from sleep into other things as well. Generally I've found that even though my stomach doesn't seem to feel like food, it can actually still take it just fine. I usually do something fairly light and bland, like just toast and juice, to get my system the energy it really needs to get a day started without upsetting it too much. It may not feel that great while eating it, but at least for me, I've never had any trouble keeping it down in those cases, so I go ahead and eat it because I know my body really does need it. | ||
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micronesia
United States24777 Posts
On June 22 2009 17:56 Uraeus wrote: I guess that was me. Thank you. I am actually interested in tips about shift work. My shift patern is as follows : Day 1 : early morning shift : ie wake up @ 5:30 or so Day 2 : day shift : wake up between 7:30 and 9:00 (depending on the actual shift) Day 3 : late afternoon shift or night shift, so I wake up naturally between 8 and 9 usually Days 4 & 5 : days off (wake up between 8 & 9) Days 6 & 7 : new shift pattern (ie, day 1 & 2 again) or days off if last shift was a night shift I have 2 problems. First one is, I can never get to sleep early before an early morning shift. I usually fall asleep around 12:00 (as usual), and 5,5h of sleep is more often than not too little sleep for me. I often feel sleepy all day long but cannot always nap. Funny (?) thing is, the moment of the day I feel most awake is between 10 and 12 PM. What can ruin my night, and subsequently my following day. When I manage to get around 7 hours of sleep, early mornings feel like normal days, so a few tips to fall asleep 1h earlier would be welcome. Second problem is some night shifts. They come in 4 kind, 3 of which cause me no problem. The problemtic shift starts @ 8 PM. I work until 12PM or so, then have dinner at work with my whole working team until 1:30 AM (!) , and then start working again from 3:30 AM till 6:30. I often "sleep" from 2:00 to 3:30, but this is way not enough. I have trouble staying awake through the rest of the shift. I could have dinner before going to work and hence sleep between 12:00 and 3:30, but I don't feel sleepy at all at 12 PM (and I would miss the whole social aspect of having dinner with my colleagues, what would lower my popularity as much as, say, praising GG.net on a TL.net forum). Any idea of what could get me through the night ? Thnks a lot for your guide again. Too bad you didn't get that Beta key. Refer to this addendum (managing shift work): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=96030 | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9110 Posts
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
Edit : just finished reading. Interesting stuff again. I will definitely try some of your advice very soon. | ||
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ThunderGod
New Zealand897 Posts
I've done my own research and seen a lot of this material before, also I have spoken to doctors and a sleep therapist who gave similar advice. My main problem is being prevented from getting regular sleeping times coupled with DSPD. In the first case it's due to my heavy university workload. I am not in a position to change that at the moment so have all but resigned myself to insomnia for the time being. My question is, since I can't address the root cause of my insomnia, i.e., I can't go to bed, is there anything I can do to mitigate sleepyness during the day? (My mind becomes alert at night even when I haven't slept for a few days but I have low points during the day where I will lose concentration or fall asleep momentarily in class). To clarify, I have no trouble sleeping when I go to bed, I have trouble going to bed (which is why zopiclone didn't work for me). Also you mention that lack of sleep isn't harmful in and of itself. However I would like to point out that lack of sleep reduces ability of the body to recuperate and recover itself. For example I was hospitilsed after sleeping two nights out of eight due to intense muscular pain and spasms. The muscles were tensed up working at a desk and hadn't been able to relax and recover through sleep. | ||
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pangshai
Chinatown5333 Posts
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micronesia
United States24777 Posts
On October 22 2009 00:10 ThunderGod wrote: Thanks for pointing me to this thread Micronesia. Bumping to give other people a chance to read it who haven't yet. Also I have a question. I've done my own research and seen a lot of this material before, also I have spoken to doctors and a sleep therapist who gave similar advice. My main problem is being prevented from getting regular sleeping times coupled with DSPD. In the first case it's due to my heavy university workload. I am not in a position to change that at the moment so have all but resigned myself to insomnia for the time being. My question is, since I can't address the root cause of my insomnia, i.e., I can't go to bed, is there anything I can do to mitigate sleepyness during the day? (My mind becomes alert at night even when I haven't slept for a few days but I have low points during the day where I will lose concentration or fall asleep momentarily in class). To clarify, I have no trouble sleeping when I go to bed, I have trouble going to bed (which is why zopiclone didn't work for me). Also you mention that lack of sleep isn't harmful in and of itself. However I would like to point out that lack of sleep reduces ability of the body to recuperate and recover itself. For example I was hospitilsed after sleeping two nights out of eight due to intense muscular pain and spasms. The muscles were tensed up working at a desk and hadn't been able to relax and recover through sleep. Interesting about the problem you had with your muscles... was not aware of that particular threat but it makes sense. Still, sleeping 2 nights out of 8 is pretty extreme sleep deprivation and is not what most people here suffer from so I'll stand by what I've said for the most part. Regarding your sleep problems, it sounds like your problem is not insomnia. Insomnia is an inability to sleep properly when trying to. You are having trouble allocating time for sleep to begin with? If so, most likely there are ways to make a little bit more time which may not be enough to fully make up for your drowsiness etc, but might take the edge off. If I am wrong about this then please explain. | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
However, I think a few key elements to promote good sleep is missing here. Pardon me if I didn't notice them, I tried to skim through it all. * Cut Caffeine * Exercise. Do intensive cardiovascular activity and your sleep will improve without a doubt. * Do more stuff in general, don't just sit around all day * TAKE MAGNESIUM SUPPLEMENTS I will go into magnesium a bit more, since it's been found to make people sleep better. Because of how much magnesium that is depleted every day and the scarcity of it in food, most people don't get their daily recommended intake. Solution: Buy a magnesium supplement. DON'T buy Magnesiumoxide, it has ridiculously bad bioavailability (something like 2% get's absorbed in your body). I ready a study on pubmed about the bioavailability of different kinds of magnesium. Either get magnesium-glycinate/taurate/lactate/citrate/malatate most preferrably. Magnesiumaspartate is fine too unless you are hyperactive or something similar, since aspartate is a precursor to aspartam, which raises several catecholamines (stress hormones) in your brain. tl;dr: Buy Magnesium supplements and take 30-60 minutes before sleep on an empty stomach. (not magnesiumoxide). Do report back if this helped anyone, which I'm sure it will. | ||
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micronesia
United States24777 Posts
On October 22 2009 05:01 Foucault wrote: Interesting guide Micronesia. However, I think a few key elements to promote good sleep is missing here. Pardon me if I didn't notice them, I tried to skim through it all. * Cut Caffeine * Exercise. Do intensive cardiovascular activity and your sleep will improve without a doubt. * Do more stuff in general, don't just sit around all day * TAKE MAGNESIUM SUPPLEMENTS I will go into magnesium a bit more, since it's been found to make people sleep better. Because of how much magnesium that is depleted every day and the scarcity of it in food, most people don't get their daily recommended intake. Solution: Buy a magnesium supplement. DON'T buy Magnesiumoxide, it has ridiculously bad bioavailability (something like 2% get's absorbed in your body). I ready a study on pubmed about the bioavailability of different kinds of magnesium. Either get magnesium-glycinate/taurate/lactate/citrate/malatate most preferrably. Magnesiumaspartate is fine too unless you are hyperactive or something similar, since aspartate is a precursor to aspartam, which raises several catecholamines (stress hormones) in your brain. tl;dr: Buy Magnesium supplements and take 30-60 minutes before sleep on an empty stomach. (not magnesiumoxide). Do report back if this helped anyone, which I'm sure it will. Cutting caffeine is a good idea (although a pretty obvious solution I think). I did talk about exercise. Do more stuff in general is a good point. Magnesium supplements I can neither agree with nor argue against due to my lack of knowledge on them, but I generally stand by my earlier comment that medicine/supplements are not a good first step towards solving sleeping related problems. Maybe for some people your suggestion is a good one though. | ||
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Loophole
United States867 Posts
I can't stand it when someone posts a well written article and people complain that it's too long. You can't get everything in 2 paragraphs people. Did I mention you need to start playing more SC? | ||
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