EPTWhat has the army done for you? - Page 4
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On May 23 2009 22:05 Aegraen wrote: Fun Fact: Military life does not make you an asshole. You are either an asshole before you join or not. For most, (my family has a long heritage of military and law enforcement service), it mellows you out due to the experiences. I have never in my life met someone who came out of military service specifically more humble -- with the exception of my brother, but not because of the Military itself (severe near death experience that got him a medical discharge). Every single former military relative and friend I have ever had gains this holier-than-thou attitude about what the military is, how it is the greatest thing in the world, and how others ought to join the military. It doesn't make them necessarily bad people, but it does intend to inflate their egos and make them feel more knowledgeable than they actually are. All of these things apply to you, too. I actually like the military and the opportunities it gives, but it by no means makes you more humble or mellow. Look at you, you take every chance you can get to curse people for differing opinions (No, someone does NOT have to respect the military -- it's their choice, not yours), constantly rail on about the benefits, suggest EVERYONE spend four years of service even though I bet you a quarter of the people here wouldn't even be allowed in, are ridiculously pedantic about criticisms of the military or even pseudo military operations, the list goes on. I respect anyone who takes time out of their life to better themselves and protect the country, but you're full of it if you think it mellows people out. | ||
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RoadTrippin
United States48 Posts
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KaasZerg
Netherlands927 Posts
Afganistan, Rediculous amount of jobless young men. A very flat demograpic pyramid. Heroinproduction is the only way to make a living. Your older brothers are already running the farm. Be Taliban or be a useless bum who cannot marry. Palestine. space, water, fertile land, jobs, movement restrictions, police state, bombardments. Whats not to like as an able bodied Palestinian. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
On May 23 2009 17:12 The Storyteller wrote: It really kills me to admit this, but yeah, the internet has made me a better person. It's kind of hard to express, but I feel like I matured a lot in there, I got to meet people from different backgrounds, I got to interact with and under a variety of assholes and nice guys and I got to do things I wouldn't have done otherwise. Most importantly, I was asked to do a blog while I was in there and that experience made me choose the career I have. | ||
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Rakanishu2
United States475 Posts
I would argue that some of the things that the army has conducted is evil, but why should you take that out on the soldiers? Haven't you seen "A Few Good Men?" They're ordered to maintain the chain of command and follow orders. If the mods catch this, I've been lurking here for like 2 years, and I haven't been able to register because your email auto-validation system doesn't like the @u.washington.edu part. Just made another email for this website. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
On May 23 2009 22:05 Aegraen wrote: Fun Fact: I'm not in the Army. Fun Fact: The long traditions and customs and courtesies of the US military is no way comparable to whatever Brazilian Military is accustomed to / has done. Fun Fact: Military life does not make you an asshole. You are either an asshole before you join or not. For most, (my family has a long heritage of military and law enforcement service), it mellows you out due to the experiences. Fun Fact: You should thank the military for the protection of the citizenry. We do the hard work so you can live the cush life. Show some respect. Yeah lol, the military, because developed countries with no military powers live in such misery. | ||
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pangshai
Chinatown5333 Posts
Something I specifically "learnt" in the army was the concept of discipline or "mind over matter" or whatever you wanna call it. While on training missions, I often had to walk very very long distances, sometimes on extremely unfavourable terrain, carrying very heavy loads. I suppose most people on this forum probably won't have the experience of carrying heavy stuff and walking for long distances. Its kinda like, when you first pick up your stuff, it doesn't feel _that_ heavy, your back does't hurt immediately, you don't feel like you're going to buckle under the weight. After 30 minutes of walking with that load, your shoulders start to get sore. 5 hours later, your feet are sore, your shoulders and back are killing you, and the worst thing is, you don't know when its going to end. The emotional toll is just immense. I remember on a specific mission, we landed at the landing site at 8pm and walked the whole night till 10am in the morning before we reached the objective. Basically I was just telling myself the entire time that my job was very simple -- to put 1 foot in front of the other, but even that just seemed like an impossible task. Just slightly before we reached the objective, we arrived at a simulated minefield just at the foot of a small hill that we had to climb, and I was thinking "just kill me". I think its during moments like this that you get to see how comaraderie really pulls you through. On a separate mission, we had similarly walked through the night and were climbing up a rather steep mountain to get to the objective. Time was running out, we were going to fail the mission if we didn't engage by the "h-hour". My platoon commander rushed up the mountain, and when we reached the summit, most of the platoon was still lagging behind. Trying to meet the h-hour, he tried to organise the 8 or so of us who made it up there into a force that could confront the enemy, but there was a very glaring lack of firepower, since we were all carrying your standard semiautomatic rifles. It seemed like all was lost and we were going to fail the mission (repercussion being redoing another "exercise" which usually consisted of 3-4 missions), but he turned around he saw the entire platoon perfectly organised and ready, doing exactly what they were trained to be doing. I think he was overwhelmed. Later when we got back to camp, he recounted the story to me. If he could recreate the feelings he had experienced then, he'd probably have broken into tears lol. You just don't get this kind of experiences from studying, or doing everyday things. | ||
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foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Disintegrate
United States182 Posts
nearly got courtmartialed after that now im never touching a condom ever again | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
i guess they did learn some things but for the most part they were really bored lol liek guard duty which was basically taking turns sleeping or wahtever lol | ||
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Railz
United States1449 Posts
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Chef
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benjammin
United States2728 Posts
On May 23 2009 18:31 CharlieMurphy wrote: I probably wouldn't mind if there was a manditory draft of service for every man in US like it used to be (and is for many other countries still). one of these days... one of these days.... POW, right in the kisser! | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
If the army is so good why do they need forcing people on it ? I understand SK for instance, but Brazil ? Its lame, we cant even pay the military proper salaries so some of them sell rifles, granades and bazookas to the drug dealers. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
Physical training seems like a big plus, which many people lack these days. Taking orders from your superior is something that can swing both ways. In North American companies (less blue-collar), strictly following orders is not something that's encouraged. You aren't supposed to strictly follow everything you boss tells you, you should provide your own insight and form opinions if necessary. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Most of the people I've seen come through basic training (but not deployment) have come back much more disciplined and just more capable in general. As for those who are ragging on various adventures by various militaries - be aware that these are POLITICAL decisions not military ones. It's the politicians that decide what to do, and the military that bleeds and suffers casualties. The politicians are the ones that get me angry, not those who serve (in general - there are exceptions). | ||
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