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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
May 07 2009 08:44 GMT
#1
So I woke up and was reading the news and saw an article "Government wants to tighten gun laws".

In wake of the recent school shooting in Winneden, where a 17 year-old boy killed 15 people, the government tries to take action in order to prevent further shootings.

The new laws are not yet effective, but the government plans inspections on gun owners' homes (a refusal being illegal), a national gun-owner register, to raise the admission age for competitive marksmen to 18 and finally fun sports like paintball and laserdom will be banned completely (a violation can be fined with up to 5000€), because they simulate killing.

I'm no paintballer myself and I don't know how big the German paintball scene is, but the government is taking it too far this time. Why not raise the admission age to 18 there as well? Makes me wonder when video games are next.

(There is no international source yet, so here's the article for those who understand German: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,623312,00.html)
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
May 07 2009 08:52 GMT
#2
paintball...seriously? do they have any grasp on reality?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 07 2009 08:53 GMT
#3
Ye.. heard the same. What a joke._.!
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-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 07 2009 08:56 GMT
#4
Wow that's incredibly misguided.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
May 07 2009 09:01 GMT
#5
Won't stop me from playing in my yearly paintball tournament in June. Too bad this might be the last year; Austria often copies German laws -.-
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
May 07 2009 09:07 GMT
#6
How pathetic is that. -____-
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DeathSpank
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1029 Posts
May 07 2009 09:14 GMT
#7
go fight that shit!
yes.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 07 2009 09:17 GMT
#8
"Blöde Idioten" +1

I guess with the economic crisis, those idiots have given up on using their time on useful stuff like working towards a balanced budget or smth.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
May 07 2009 09:18 GMT
#9
It's very simple actually. It's election time, so they have to do something regarding the recent school shooting. Of course no one wants to touch the real guns that actually kill people, because there are 1.5 million voters registered in hunting and shooting clubs.

So they are looking for a pawn to sacrifice (does this expression exist in English btw?). Computer games have had the blame too often and have a strong lobby by now - paintball however is an obscure hobby with very little support.

But, rest assured paint ball players, nothing is going to happen. This is just elections. Banning paint ball was already on the last administrations agenda - nothing happened. Same here, as soon as the election are over, no one will talk about this anymore.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51705 Posts
May 07 2009 09:22 GMT
#10
this is like how they censored cs so that when you fragged someone they kneeled and put their hands on their head
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51705 Posts
May 07 2009 09:22 GMT
#11
and zatic i think 'pawn to sacrifice', the word you are looking for is scapegoat.
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groro
Profile Joined March 2009
67 Posts
May 07 2009 09:27 GMT
#12
Yeah I think paintball is less widespread in ger than e.g. in usa. So some "old men" which govern the country look for some easy scapegoat and something which isn't a value in their own lifes. Hope it falls back on them and even older voters see how idiotic the argumentation behind this is.
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
May 07 2009 09:28 GMT
#13
On May 07 2009 18:22 GTR wrote:
this is like how they censored cs so that when you fragged someone they kneeled and put their hands on their head


i honestly think that sends the wrong message about what guns do to people.
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
May 07 2009 09:32 GMT
#14
they should ban bread too. over 90% of all terrorists eat bread during the last 24 hours before their strike.
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7683 Posts
May 07 2009 09:32 GMT
#15
On May 07 2009 18:18 zatic wrote:

So they are looking for a pawn to sacrifice (does this expression exist in English btw?).


yes we play chess also. =) its a good expression also =)
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
May 07 2009 09:36 GMT
#16
On May 07 2009 18:22 GTR wrote:
this is like how they censored cs so that when you fragged someone they kneeled and put their hands on their head

lol i just youtubed it. I thought they were just going to kneel and put their hands on their head there, but they actually lay down first.

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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
May 07 2009 09:40 GMT
#17
On May 07 2009 18:27 groro wrote:
Yeah I think paintball is less widespread in ger than e.g. in usa. So some "old men" which govern the country look for some easy scapegoat and something which isn't a value in their own lifes. Hope it falls back on them and even older voters see how idiotic the argumentation behind this is.


It´s not only old men, but also women. We must face it, young men are a minority in our country

This is ridiculous, and I hope it´s just one of those overly sensationalist stories the media come up with every so often and not a real consensus among politicians.
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2111 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-07 09:41:33
May 07 2009 09:40 GMT
#18
On May 07 2009 17:44 poilord wrote:
and finally fun sports like paintball and laserdom will be banned completely (a violation can be fined with up to 5000€), because they simulate killing.


They should ban the army too, because I heard that stimulates killing pretty well.

I agree with Zatic though, its not real problem solving that politics should be, its pointless point scoring.

Also "a pawn to sacrifice" does exist in English, except for me it always came with the baggage that it was slightly unwilling, a sacrifice for the greater good, but this is clearly not that, its opportunistic, playing with people's darkest fears, and offering a simple solution to what is clearly a complex social problem.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44389 Posts
May 07 2009 09:46 GMT
#19
On May 07 2009 18:22 GTR wrote:
and zatic i think 'pawn to sacrifice', the word you are looking for is scapegoat.

Sacrificial pawn is how we say it.
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groro
Profile Joined March 2009
67 Posts
May 07 2009 10:00 GMT
#20
On May 07 2009 18:32 jhNz wrote:
they should ban bread too. over 90% of all terrorists eat bread during the last 24 hours before their strike.

Bear in mind though(haha learned some English expressions from tasteless casts too) that afaik paintball wasn't even a hobby of this school shooter. So they leveled up in finding stupid scapegoats.
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