Epidemy with Mexico - Page 11

Physician

United States4146 Posts

April 27 2009 01:53 GMT

#201

Obama's swine flu scare after shaking hands with archaeologist who died 24 hours later.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1173672/Obamas-swine-flu-scare-shaking-hands-archaeologist-died-24-hours-later.html

In other words Obama is probably incubating this stuff now.

"ninja" edit to avoid CONFUSION: reports say it was pneumonia "unrelated" to swine flu.

TheFoReveRwaR

United States10657 Posts

April 27 2009 01:54 GMT

#202

On April 27 2009 10:48 EAGER-beaver wrote:

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As crazy as this sounds, in 1918 when the spanish flu was going around most fatalities occured in the 20-30 age group, hitting healthy young individuals the hardest. This was partly because of the war time conditions (lots of young men packed in boats in port cities) and that the immune system response in a stronger person was so powerful it would end up killing the individual, not the virus. Young healthy people died because they drowned in their own mucus and antibodies produced to fight the flu... oh the irony.

EDIT:
I read about it in The Great Influenza by John M. Barry, great book.

Gnarly.
Not all that relevant nowadays, but crazy

TheFoReveRwaR

United States10657 Posts

April 27 2009 01:56 GMT

#203

On April 27 2009 10:53 Physician wrote:
Obama's swine flu scare after shaking hands with archaeologist who died 24 hours later.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1173672/Obamas-swine-flu-scare-shaking-hands-archaeologist-died-24-hours-later.html

In other words Obama is probably incubating this stuff now.

Did you actually read the article?

Mexican health officials don't think the archaelogist was exposed at all. He was already very sick

Edit: Nice ninja edit;).

Physician

United States4146 Posts

April 27 2009 02:03 GMT

#204

On April 27 2009 10:56 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Did you actually read the article?

yup, I did. The title and sentence I posted does say it was a "scare".
I rather be a cynic though; the edit was to spare myself of comments like yours.

{CC}StealthBlue

United States41117 Posts

April 27 2009 02:21 GMT

#205

I'm sure someone like Obama will be fine, the President always has a doctor on standby.

unknown.sam

Philippines2701 Posts

April 27 2009 07:08 GMT

#206

ah crap, this thing is all over the place now

Caller

Poland8075 Posts

April 27 2009 07:20 GMT

#207

Guys,

please arm yourselves. Store up supplies. And for Christ's sake don't let them bite you.

This is not a drill.

They said it was swine flu and was in only a few states. They said that it was minor and easily treatable. They also said that it wouldn't turn humans into zombies.

They were wrong.

This may be the last message I send. The zombies are already breaking into my building and I'm low on food supplies. This is my last warning before the electricity goes off here: get out of here before it's too late!

Now if you'd excuse me, it's time to buy time for the rest of you.

Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori!

MamiyaOtaru

United States1687 Posts

April 27 2009 08:44 GMT

#208

On April 27 2009 10:54 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:

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Gnarly.
Not all that relevant nowadays, but crazy

Sure it is. The scariest flus are the new ones. Like, say, (this newly human to human transmissible) swine flu. It hasn't really adapted to human hosts yet (or vice versa), as shown by the death toll, particularly among young, healthy people. For the virus' own good, it shouldn't be killing its hosts like that, but it is. As with any new flu, before it settles down it has the potential to be a repeat of 1918, except now we have airliners.

This scares the crap out of me. My great grandfather emigrated with his parents and they settled here in the mountain west. In 1918, the flu killed his two brothers. When I visit their graves, and see all the other grave stones with the same year of death in the tiny town they initially settled it is very disturbing.

nataziel

Australia1455 Posts

April 27 2009 09:18 GMT

#209

Affected countries should impose a quarantine already, the more I hear about this the more scared I am. Hopefully this doesn't come to Australia any time soon.

Ziph

Netherlands970 Posts

April 27 2009 09:54 GMT

#210

I think its in Australia already (maybe)

I found this image on wiki (edit the wiki legenda is wrong)

Pink markers are suspect
Purple markers are confirmed
Deaths lack a dot in marker
Yellow markers are negative

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=32.639375,-110.390625&spn=15.738151,25.488281&z=5
Live Google Map where you can follow all the new cases and stuff.

mahnini

United States6862 Posts

April 27 2009 09:59 GMT

#211

kind of strange that the only fatalities are in mexico. i'd like to see what the explanation is for that if there is one.

Liquid`Drone

Norway28724 Posts

April 27 2009 10:29 GMT

#212

yellows are negative, pink suspected purple confirmed
pink without dot confirmed death

kazokun

United States163 Posts

April 27 2009 10:33 GMT

#213

On April 27 2009 18:59 mahnini wrote:
kind of strange that the only fatalities are in mexico. i'd like to see what the explanation is for that if there is one.

Lack of preperation, perhaps. The highest mortality rates are always during the first few days of an endemic.

Piste

6180 Posts

April 27 2009 10:37 GMT

#214

On April 27 2009 18:59 mahnini wrote:
kind of strange that the only fatalities are in mexico. i'd like to see what the explanation is for that if there is one.

That's not even true

Wohmfg

United Kingdom1292 Posts

April 27 2009 10:49 GMT

#215

On April 27 2009 18:59 mahnini wrote:
kind of strange that the only fatalities are in mexico. i'd like to see what the explanation is for that if there is one.

From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8020222.stm:

"However, no-one outside of Mexico has yet died, leading to suggestions that the severity of the cases there may be due to the strain mixing with a second unrelated virus circulating in the community."

NovaTheFeared

United States7229 Posts

April 27 2009 11:48 GMT

#216

This Mexican flu outbreak is starting to look like the early stages of the Pandemic game spread on these boards.

ruXxar

Norway5669 Posts

April 27 2009 12:28 GMT

#217

I just got a question that I always wondered about. If you get sick by a virus strain(lets say swine flu) and you survive(your body fought it off), are you then immune to getting sick by the exact same virus strain again? Like sort of your body has made its own vaccine for the virus now?

Deleted User 31060

3788 Posts

April 27 2009 12:40 GMT

#218

On April 27 2009 21:28 ruXxar wrote:
I just got a question that I always wondered about. If you get sick by a virus strain(lets say swine flu) and you survive(your body fought it off), are you then immune to getting sick by the exact same virus strain again? Like sort of your body has made its own vaccine for the virus now?

yeah, but you have to survive it first

also flu tends to mutate really fast, so a new strain can exist after just a year (which is why we get yearly flu shots)

ailouros

United States193 Posts

April 27 2009 12:47 GMT

#219

i havent looked too much into it, but is this a big deal? i was planning to go down to mexico past Tijuana and hit up the coast in May but idk, probably gonna skip it now. my friend gets sick really easily and has a very poor immune system

only like, a day out of our trip but still sort of a bummer~

Boblion

France8043 Posts

April 27 2009 12:49 GMT

#220

One of the reasons of the huge number of adult deaths in 1918:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm

Maybe it works like that too with the new virus.
Any experts ?

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