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Physician
United States4146 Posts
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On April 27 2009 10:48 EAGER-beaver wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2009 08:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On April 27 2009 08:32 PaeZ wrote: Update, The epidemy has advanced towards Monterrey and Guadalajara (my city), there has been 1 death reported in monterrey and 3 possible cases that are critical in Guadalajara, classes have been suspended in the 3 biggest universities in Guadalajara including my own :S, this shit is spreading fast!
Also there have been deaths in other 5 states in Mexico: San Luis Potosi, Oaxaca, Baja California, Mexico City; State of Mexico, Monterrey.
Lets see how this evolves. As long as you're not elderly, HIV positive, an infant, or child you'll be fine As crazy as this sounds, in 1918 when the spanish flu was going around most fatalities occured in the 20-30 age group, hitting healthy young individuals the hardest. This was partly because of the war time conditions (lots of young men packed in boats in port cities) and that the immune system response in a stronger person was so powerful it would end up killing the individual, not the virus. Young healthy people died because they drowned in their own mucus and antibodies produced to fight the flu... oh the irony. EDIT: I read about it in The Great Influenza by John M. Barry, great book. Gnarly. Not all that relevant nowadays, but crazy
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Did you actually read the article?
Mexican health officials don't think the archaelogist was exposed at all. He was already very sick
Edit: Nice ninja edit;).
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
On April 27 2009 10:56 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Did you actually read the article?
yup, I did. The title and sentence I posted does say it was a "scare". I rather be a cynic though; the edit was to spare myself of comments like yours.
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I'm sure someone like Obama will be fine, the President always has a doctor on standby.
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ah crap, this thing is all over the place now
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Guys,
please arm yourselves. Store up supplies. And for Christ's sake don't let them bite you.
This is not a drill.
They said it was swine flu and was in only a few states. They said that it was minor and easily treatable. They also said that it wouldn't turn humans into zombies.
They were wrong.
This may be the last message I send. The zombies are already breaking into my building and I'm low on food supplies. This is my last warning before the electricity goes off here: get out of here before it's too late!
Now if you'd excuse me, it's time to buy time for the rest of you.
Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori!
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On April 27 2009 10:54 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2009 10:48 EAGER-beaver wrote:On April 27 2009 08:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On April 27 2009 08:32 PaeZ wrote: Update, The epidemy has advanced towards Monterrey and Guadalajara (my city), there has been 1 death reported in monterrey and 3 possible cases that are critical in Guadalajara, classes have been suspended in the 3 biggest universities in Guadalajara including my own :S, this shit is spreading fast!
Also there have been deaths in other 5 states in Mexico: San Luis Potosi, Oaxaca, Baja California, Mexico City; State of Mexico, Monterrey.
Lets see how this evolves. As long as you're not elderly, HIV positive, an infant, or child you'll be fine As crazy as this sounds, in 1918 when the spanish flu was going around most fatalities occured in the 20-30 age group, hitting healthy young individuals the hardest. This was partly because of the war time conditions (lots of young men packed in boats in port cities) and that the immune system response in a stronger person was so powerful it would end up killing the individual, not the virus. Young healthy people died because they drowned in their own mucus and antibodies produced to fight the flu... oh the irony. EDIT: I read about it in The Great Influenza by John M. Barry, great book. Gnarly. Not all that relevant nowadays, but crazy
Sure it is. The scariest flus are the new ones. Like, say, (this newly human to human transmissible) swine flu. It hasn't really adapted to human hosts yet (or vice versa), as shown by the death toll, particularly among young, healthy people. For the virus' own good, it shouldn't be killing its hosts like that, but it is. As with any new flu, before it settles down it has the potential to be a repeat of 1918, except now we have airliners.
This scares the crap out of me. My great grandfather emigrated with his parents and they settled here in the mountain west. In 1918, the flu killed his two brothers. When I visit their graves, and see all the other grave stones with the same year of death in the tiny town they initially settled it is very disturbing.
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Affected countries should impose a quarantine already, the more I hear about this the more scared I am. Hopefully this doesn't come to Australia any time soon.
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kind of strange that the only fatalities are in mexico. i'd like to see what the explanation is for that if there is one.
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Norway28528 Posts
yellows are negative, pink suspected purple confirmed pink without dot confirmed death
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On April 27 2009 18:59 mahnini wrote: kind of strange that the only fatalities are in mexico. i'd like to see what the explanation is for that if there is one.
Lack of preperation, perhaps. The highest mortality rates are always during the first few days of an endemic.
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On April 27 2009 18:59 mahnini wrote: kind of strange that the only fatalities are in mexico. i'd like to see what the explanation is for that if there is one.
That's not even true
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On April 27 2009 18:59 mahnini wrote: kind of strange that the only fatalities are in mexico. i'd like to see what the explanation is for that if there is one.
From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8020222.stm:
"However, no-one outside of Mexico has yet died, leading to suggestions that the severity of the cases there may be due to the strain mixing with a second unrelated virus circulating in the community."
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This Mexican flu outbreak is starting to look like the early stages of the Pandemic game spread on these boards.
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I just got a question that I always wondered about. If you get sick by a virus strain(lets say swine flu) and you survive(your body fought it off), are you then immune to getting sick by the exact same virus strain again? Like sort of your body has made its own vaccine for the virus now?
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On April 27 2009 21:28 ruXxar wrote: I just got a question that I always wondered about. If you get sick by a virus strain(lets say swine flu) and you survive(your body fought it off), are you then immune to getting sick by the exact same virus strain again? Like sort of your body has made its own vaccine for the virus now?
yeah, but you have to survive it first
also flu tends to mutate really fast, so a new strain can exist after just a year (which is why we get yearly flu shots)
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i havent looked too much into it, but is this a big deal? i was planning to go down to mexico past Tijuana and hit up the coast in May but idk, probably gonna skip it now. my friend gets sick really easily and has a very poor immune system
only like, a day out of our trip but still sort of a bummer~
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