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zXk3
Mexico1178 Posts
More info here Wish me luck, hopefully this wont be my first and last thread at general | ||
iNcontroL
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Dave[9]
United States2365 Posts
fucking get outta there | ||
gzealot
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Singapore66155 Posts
What's with the big 'LOL'? Your life is at stake here. | ||
StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 24 2009 16:08 {88}iNcontroL wrote: failing to understand the "LOL" at the beginning of a thread about people dying in your hometown.. but ok. i was thinking the same thing | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
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USA29055 Posts
On April 24 2009 16:03 zXk3 wrote: LOL my city just called an epidemy, many have died (more than the media told, i know this becase my sister in law works in the biggest hospital around here), schools have closed and panic have invaded my neighbours (and family, because i live here alone) More info here Wish me luck, hopefully this wont be my first and last thread at general quoting to secure shallow post in history | ||
Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
Maybe I have things backwards :S | ||
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zXk3
Mexico1178 Posts
Yesterday News this is one of the reasons of my LOL Today News REALLY i dont know how to react those news are in spanish, but long story short, yesterday the government was denying everything, today they just declared the epidemy (or epidemic, or whatever) Like i said.. this is just my passive aggressive way to vent my impotence.. | ||
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USA29055 Posts
LOL = Laugh Out Loud not "my city hall declared an epidemy after 2 days" That is obviously MCHDEA2D Which is commonly used in Mexico. | ||
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Singapore66155 Posts
On April 24 2009 16:16 zXk3 wrote: the LOL its because it tookd the city hall 2 days to declare the epidemy, i am a little bit in denial and i dont know WTF i can do (we CANT leave the city until further notice), whats wrong if i want to take this situation in the best way possible (with humor), i moved here only because i met my GF, i CANT see her (for security reasons, i dont want to be the one killing her or her family), but yeah.. im shallow as fuck Sounds like Raccoon City to me | ||
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zXk3
Mexico1178 Posts
On April 24 2009 16:20 StylishVODs wrote: Seems like they have it somewhat under control after reading thew article though. MEDIA says only 20 deads, reality says 60+ (IN JUST ONE HOSPITAL), MEDIA says we have it under control, but PLEASE AVOID HOSPITALS AND ALMOST EVERYTHING, reality says they will give us free vaccines SOMEDAY between this weekend.. i just dont know what to do, should i believe them? dunno.. | ||
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Sweden5331 Posts
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TimeShifter
Singapore235 Posts
On April 24 2009 16:25 zXk3 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2009 16:20 StylishVODs wrote: Seems like they have it somewhat under control after reading thew article though. MEDIA says only 20 deads, reality says 60+ (IN JUST ONE HOSPITAL), how big is your town? | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27139 Posts
On April 24 2009 16:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: One less retard/asshole in the world if you die, I guess...o.O Kindly watch your mouth towards forum vets. | ||
evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
GL man | ||
InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
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shavingcream66
United States1219 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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Forgottenfrog
United States1268 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 24 2009 17:13 Forgottenfrog wrote: get off his nuts about LOL, at least he's trying to laugh it off. I just thought the LOL opening was abit wierd. Its not like i've bmed him or anything. Its a pretty scary situation. | ||
betaben
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RA
Latvia791 Posts
On topic - that's pretty scary. Viruses have very "smart" evolution pattern. I always wondered why immune system can't evolve as fast as viruses, what's in there so catalytic in them. | ||
Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
One less retard/asshole in the world if you die, I guess...o.O This reply makes you the biggest asshole i've seen. On topic, good luck... you should go to a small shop and do provisions so you can stay in the house for a week or so until this is gone. Also, wear something around your nose/mouth (not sure how that's called, like the ones doctors use) and stay far from people (try not to sit face to face). | ||
yubee
United States3826 Posts
On April 24 2009 17:38 RA wrote: exactlyYou know some people laugh when they are in shock or under big stress. good luck, be safe, keep us posted!! | ||
toshi
Poland469 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7877 Posts
Funny how everybody started to flame the guy for nothing at the beginning of the thread. Incontrol even "quoting to secure shallow post in history". Hahahahaha! I admire people who are so not scared about being ridiculous. | ||
gzealot
Singapore238 Posts
Off-topic: now i know why that damned Mercy hospital had so many zombies =/ | ||
StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 24 2009 17:51 Biff The Understudy wrote: 20 death over 16 000 000 people, I guess it won't affect too much your lifehope. Funny how everybody started to flame the guy for nothing at the beginning of the thread. Incontrol even "quoting to secure shallow post in history". Hahahahaha! I admire people who are so not scared about being ridiculous. Yeah, chances of him getting this virus are slim, but gl anyway | ||
KarlSberg~
731 Posts
On April 24 2009 17:53 gzealot wrote: This just makes me wonder sometimes.. if a pandemic?epidemic? did break out, especially with virus with long interval between contraction and being symptomatic, while being transmittable. (Whats the word for that? Virulent?) If someone took a plane home a week ago to his home country .... End up with a L4D-esque situation. I think theres very little governments can do once it gets rolling.. Except the government of Madagascar. | ||
Vex
Ireland454 Posts
ever see Outbreak? deadly film. Hope your alrite dude, LOVE mexicans :D on a side note, ever notice how threads go 1 way, and then 1 person says something, and they go the complete opposite? almost as if 1 person's oppinion is +1'd by like 10 people every time one changes. i.e. the first 10 posts, then 1 guy says heyyyy thats not fairrrrrrr then the 2nd 10 posts made me rofl :// | ||
Aerox
Malaysia1213 Posts
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NotJumperer
United States1371 Posts
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RA
Latvia791 Posts
On April 24 2009 18:05 Vex wrote: Nuke it! ever see Outbreak? deadly film. Hope your alrite dude, LOVE mexicans :D on a side note, ever notice how threads go 1 way, and then 1 person says something, and they go the complete opposite? almost as if 1 person's oppinion is +1'd by like 10 people every time one changes. i.e. the first 10 posts, then 1 guy says heyyyy thats not fairrrrrrr then the 2nd 10 posts made me rofl :// Standard reaction. Btw, on the off-topic, I, for example, don't like when people say "rofl" and put "://" sad faces afterwards, that's a lot more weirder for me than an obvious "lol" reaction. On April 24 2009 18:32 Jumperer wrote: I wonder if this guy is still alive Now this is totally random but why do you have a Carrier with 400 posts? (a rhetorical question for those bothering that I care for the icon ![]() | ||
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Netherlands448 Posts
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Elemenope
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
On April 24 2009 17:56 KarlSberg~ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2009 17:53 gzealot wrote: This just makes me wonder sometimes.. if a pandemic?epidemic? did break out, especially with virus with long interval between contraction and being symptomatic, while being transmittable. (Whats the word for that? Virulent?) If someone took a plane home a week ago to his home country .... End up with a L4D-esque situation. I think theres very little governments can do once it gets rolling.. Except the government of Madagascar. I lol'd. | ||
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United States1015 Posts
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
On April 24 2009 16:16 zXk3 wrote: (we CANT leave the city until further notice). Hold on a minute, what the hell does this mean? I left the city about 12 hours ago. 4 hours later at the time of your post and i wouldnt have been able to get out? Does that mean i cant go back in or something? | ||
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Sweden5462 Posts
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
On April 24 2009 16:11 StylishVODs wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2009 16:08 {88}iNcontroL wrote: failing to understand the "LOL" at the beginning of a thread about people dying in your hometown.. but ok. i was thinking the same thing | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
When i read what he wrote it came off as a "LOL we're so fucked T_T" kind of lol. Now surely you have done one of those before. There isn't anything sinister about it, and i know zxk3 had no intention of it being an issue. @epidemic Stay safe zXk3! I need your graphics skills yo~ | ||
brambolius
Netherlands448 Posts
On April 24 2009 19:46 Elemenope wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2009 17:56 KarlSberg~ wrote: On April 24 2009 17:53 gzealot wrote: This just makes me wonder sometimes.. if a pandemic?epidemic? did break out, especially with virus with long interval between contraction and being symptomatic, while being transmittable. (Whats the word for that? Virulent?) If someone took a plane home a week ago to his home country .... End up with a L4D-esque situation. I think theres very little governments can do once it gets rolling.. Except the government of Madagascar. I lol'd. ye, madagascar, every epidemic's worst nightmare lol | ||
mahnini
United States6862 Posts
On April 24 2009 20:15 Cloud wrote: Hold on a minute, what the hell does this mean? I left the city about 12 hours ago. 4 hours later at the time of your post and i wouldnt have been able to get out? Does that mean i cant go back in or something? this some zombie apocalypse shit. cal your friends and stock up on food, weapons, and hot chicks. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17238 Posts
On April 24 2009 16:34 TimeShifter wrote: how big is your town? You mean in total? His "town" has a population of nearly 9.000.000 + another 28.000.000 in the metropolitan area (yes, that's more than many countries out there). And I can't help it but I smiled when I read about the free vaccine for everyone. Anyone watched the movie called Vexille? | ||
niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
On April 24 2009 20:57 niteReloaded wrote: uh oh,, this is like 24. Is Cloud getting out a good thing or a bad thing? I will deliver the apocalypse, i just dont know it yet. | ||
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yooh
China223 Posts
Woww...shit.... | ||
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SkyTheUnknown
Germany2065 Posts
On April 24 2009 22:05 yooh wrote: "Worldwide, seasonal flu kills between 250,000 and 500,000 people in an average year." Woww...shit.... At a first glance this number seems really big. But you have to see the fact, that people, who die through flu, are mostly older persons or are affected with immune-suppression. Seasonal flu usually isn't letal for younger and healthy people ![]() But well, sometimes there are exceptions like the Spanish flu in 1918-1920 with an estimated number of 50 million deaths worldwide. | ||
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zXk3
Mexico1178 Posts
@ Cloud about the "we CANT go out" comment, its just a government "tip", when i said the "AVOID EVERYTHING" it was because of that... hopefully you went to a beach or something like that.. looks like warm weather kills this bastard. im still alive and a little bit more calm, i will take my cautions, ill go to the hospital as soon as possible to get my shot (prolly tomorrow i dont want to lose my whole day in the hospital, i hate them) and if my GF its calm enough ill ask her to see her somewhere outside... | ||
jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
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rally_point
Canada458 Posts
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Wuewdoodoo
Mexico127 Posts
*looks out window* EPIDEMIA!! | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
just keep your fingers crossed nobody close to you dies coz that can be a bitch. + Show Spoiler + I didn cross the line, did I? | ||
Asta
Germany3491 Posts
it's good that the health care system reacts early, before this really gets out of hand. no need to panic, really. some guys have seen to many zombie movies. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7447 Posts
On April 24 2009 20:42 Plexa wrote: @LOL comment When i read what he wrote it came off as a "LOL we're so fucked T_T" kind of lol. Now surely you have done one of those before. There isn't anything sinister about it, and i know zxk3 had no intention of it being an issue. @epidemic Stay safe zXk3! I need your graphics skills yo~ I read the LOL the same way. I do this all the time in real life. I either semi-laugh or semi-smile when telling someone bad news. I also know a lot of people who do it as well. On April 25 2009 00:23 Asta wrote: /me doesnt get why ppl in this thread are like "gtfo", "so scary" and "good luck to you, poor guy". it's not like you are in immediate danger because there is an influenza wave going around your city, not unless you are old, already sick or live in the streets. how many ppl live in mexico city? 2 billions? and how many have died? 50? it's good that the health care system reacts early, before this really gets out of hand. no need to panic, really. some guys have seen to many zombie movies. more like 109,955,400 people and he said 60+ died in one hospital | ||
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Singapore66155 Posts
On April 24 2009 23:31 zXk3 wrote: newsflash from the hospital.. this flu is attacking like everyone, the target its 20-40yrs old ppl, according to my sister in law (the one working at the hospital) about 20-30 of the ones who died are in that range... thats why they closed even collegues and iirc the problem with this is that it is a mutant strand of the influenza (i dont know how to translate this but its like, what you guys call a flu its just a cold, here) the affected ppl started feeling like regular flu, but then started coughing blood and then ooops its all.. all within a week, 2 nurses died at my sister in law hospital... anyways, even when she keeps telling us this she also tell us that its ok and we should not worry.. it is a strong virus but its treatable if diagnosed on time @ Cloud about the "we CANT go out" comment, its just a government "tip", when i said the "AVOID EVERYTHING" it was because of that... hopefully you went to a beach or something like that.. looks like warm weather kills this bastard. im still alive and a little bit more calm, i will take my cautions, ill go to the hospital as soon as possible to get my shot (prolly tomorrow i dont want to lose my whole day in the hospital, i hate them) and if my GF its calm enough ill ask her to see her somewhere outside... Wow, glad you're still alive. Would be so sad to lose a member of TL. Go and get your shot ASAP! And uh... phone should be enough. Try to stay safe :< On April 24 2009 23:55 zatic wrote: Remember, always aim for their head. But I lol'd so hard at this. Am I a sadist now? ![]() | ||
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zXk3
Mexico1178 Posts
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TimeShifter
Singapore235 Posts
On April 24 2009 23:31 zXk3 wrote: newsflash from the hospital.. this flu is attacking like everyone, the target its 20-40yrs old ppl, according to my sister in law (the one working at the hospital) about 20-30 of the ones who died are in that range... thats why they closed even collegues and iirc the problem with this is that it is a mutant strand of the influenza (i dont know how to translate this but its like, what you guys call a flu its just a cold, here) the affected ppl started feeling like regular flu, but then started coughing blood and then ooops its all.. all within a week, 2 nurses died at my sister in law hospital... anyways, even when she keeps telling us this she also tell us that its ok and we should not worry.. it is a strong virus but its treatable if diagnosed on time sounds horrible...and straight out of zombie epidemic flick. you should really get going.. | ||
Aranoi
Canada32 Posts
On April 24 2009 17:56 KarlSberg~ wrote: Except the government of Madagascar. Quoted for awesomeness | ||
ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
On April 25 2009 00:23 Asta wrote: /me doesnt get why ppl in this thread are like "gtfo", "so scary" and "good luck to you, poor guy". it's not like you are in immediate danger because there is an influenza wave going around your city, not unless you are old, already sick or live in the streets. how many ppl live in mexico city? 2 billions? and how many have died? 50? it's good that the health care system reacts early, before this really gets out of hand. no need to panic, really. some guys have seen to many zombie movies. LOL 2 billion that's 2 000 000 000 000 in European scale, meaning 160 times more than world population ![]() or 2 000 000 000 in american scale, that's still like 70 times more than "mere" 30 million that Mexico City has (with suburbs) | ||
Famehunter
Canada586 Posts
![]() Please feel free to share your impressions with us if do start reading , or if you already have in the past. | ||
Mr.Pyro
Denmark959 Posts
On April 25 2009 01:39 ZBiR wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2009 00:23 Asta wrote: /me doesnt get why ppl in this thread are like "gtfo", "so scary" and "good luck to you, poor guy". it's not like you are in immediate danger because there is an influenza wave going around your city, not unless you are old, already sick or live in the streets. how many ppl live in mexico city? 2 billions? and how many have died? 50? it's good that the health care system reacts early, before this really gets out of hand. no need to panic, really. some guys have seen to many zombie movies. LOL 2 billion that's 2 000 000 000 000 in European scale, meaning 160 times more than world population ![]() or 2 000 000 000 in american scale, that's still like 70 times more than "mere" 30 million that Mexico City has (with suburbs) Actually a billion is just straight up 2 000 000 000,dont believe theres any such "scale". Billion just means something else in english than other languages. Fx. in Danish "en Billion" is 1000 billions. A billion is called "en Milliard" in danish. | ||
SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
On April 24 2009 23:55 zatic wrote: Remember, always aim for their head. FFff.... my joke.. my joke!!!! | ||
iNCuBuS_
United States905 Posts
On April 25 2009 01:49 Famehunter wrote: If I may suggest you something good to read in the meantime that you 're confined into your apartement , waiting for some sort of deadly virus to either make its way into your organism or leave you alone, then maybe you would enjoy reading Stephen King's "the stand". ![]() Please feel free to share your impressions with us if do start reading , or if you already have in the past. Is this an attempt to get him to do your homework for you? ![]() I dont recall the exact OP's name, but... just play it safe and get that shot as soon as you can. Better safe than sorry. Depending on how bad it is, maybe you should just talk to your girlfriend on the phone or something... If its too dangerous, dont plan to meet up somewhere that puts you both at risk. Good luck ![]() | ||
Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
On April 25 2009 01:54 MaD.pYrO wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2009 01:39 ZBiR wrote: On April 25 2009 00:23 Asta wrote: /me doesnt get why ppl in this thread are like "gtfo", "so scary" and "good luck to you, poor guy". it's not like you are in immediate danger because there is an influenza wave going around your city, not unless you are old, already sick or live in the streets. how many ppl live in mexico city? 2 billions? and how many have died? 50? it's good that the health care system reacts early, before this really gets out of hand. no need to panic, really. some guys have seen to many zombie movies. LOL 2 billion that's 2 000 000 000 000 in European scale, meaning 160 times more than world population ![]() or 2 000 000 000 in american scale, that's still like 70 times more than "mere" 30 million that Mexico City has (with suburbs) Actually a billion is just straight up 2 000 000 000,dont believe theres any such "scale". Billion just means something else in english than other languages. Fx. in Danish "en Billion" is 1000 billions. A billion is called "en Milliard" in danish. Yes there are two different scales, the long and short scales. (formerly known as the British and American scales) | ||
Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
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zXk3
Mexico1178 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On April 24 2009 23:31 zXk3 wrote: newsflash from the hospital.. this flu is attacking like everyone, the target its 20-40yrs old ppl, according to my sister in law (the one working at the hospital) about 20-30 of the ones who died are in that range... thats why they closed even collegues and iirc the problem with this is that it is a mutant strand of the influenza (i dont know how to translate this but its like, what you guys call a flu its just a cold, here) the affected ppl started feeling like regular flu, but then started coughing blood and then ooops its all.. all within a week, 2 nurses died at my sister in law hospital... anyways, even when she keeps telling us this she also tell us that its ok and we should not worry.. it is a strong virus but its treatable if diagnosed on time @ Cloud about the "we CANT go out" comment, its just a government "tip", when i said the "AVOID EVERYTHING" it was because of that... hopefully you went to a beach or something like that.. looks like warm weather kills this bastard. im still alive and a little bit more calm, i will take my cautions, ill go to the hospital as soon as possible to get my shot (prolly tomorrow i dont want to lose my whole day in the hospital, i hate them) and if my GF its calm enough ill ask her to see her somewhere outside... Damn the white spaniards for bringing their sickness to america! back on topic: this sucks man, hope everything is alright :\ | ||
RA
Latvia791 Posts
On April 24 2009 23:31 zXk3 wrote: im still alive and a little bit more calm, i will take my cautions, ill go to the hospital as soon as possible to get my shot (prolly tomorrow i dont want to lose my whole day in the hospital, i hate them) and if my GF its calm enough ill ask her to see her somewhere outside... Man, use the respirator if it's that serious really, don't risk it, hospital could be place you may get it while waiting for the shot. Having two nurses dead is a proof enough for me besides the obvious fact that sick people are usually there. | ||
Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On April 24 2009 16:19 konadora wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2009 16:16 zXk3 wrote: the LOL its because it tookd the city hall 2 days to declare the epidemy, i am a little bit in denial and i dont know WTF i can do (we CANT leave the city until further notice), whats wrong if i want to take this situation in the best way possible (with humor), i moved here only because i met my GF, i CANT see her (for security reasons, i dont want to be the one killing her or her family), but yeah.. im shallow as fuck Sounds like Raccoon City to me I felt so bad for thinking this the whole time I was reading this thread :X. | ||
HumbleZealot
Canada508 Posts
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paper
13196 Posts
wasn't his intention quite obvious from the rest of the sentence? -_-; | ||
evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
On April 25 2009 07:00 paper wrote: lol @ people getting their panties in a knot over the "LOL" wasn't his intention quite obvious from the rest of the sentence? -_-; But they're obviously romanians :/ | ||
Railxp
Hong Kong1313 Posts
On April 25 2009 06:26 HumbleZealot wrote: Brings back memories of SARS in Toronto; even though it wasn't as serious or dangerous as people thought, everyone was scared shitless of coming here. lol yeah reminds me of SARS in HongKong ![]() my personal survival strategy at that time: (well gov. commercials and chain emails said this stuff too) - consume massive amounts of hand sanitation gel (NO DONT DRINK IT DAMNIT) - wipe stuff down with 1% bleach 99% water solution - press elevator buttons with your elbow - wear face mask if you're really paranoid / pregnant (my chinese teacher was XD) - stay home and play SC for hours and hours (or in my case it was CounterStrike at that time, odd how I mark my life's significant events with what videogames i was playing at that time @_@) | ||
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United States581 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On April 24 2009 16:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: One less retard/asshole in the world if you die, I guess...o.O wow, what the fuck? stay healthy zxk3, mang | ||
Fontong
United States6454 Posts
On April 25 2009 11:04 OneOther wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2009 16:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: One less retard/asshole in the world if you die, I guess...o.O wow, what the fuck? stay healthy zxk3, mang Yeah I was surprised that CSheep said something like that as well -__- cmon man | ||
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United Kingdom2770 Posts
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PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
The situation is like this, this Flu comes from porks and started in a hospital in Mexico City, apparently there are like 30 deaths now and only Mexico city and the suburbs are un quarantine, Guadalajara and Monterrey have begun taking action to avoid this to spread. Everyone is in panic because we people of 0-30 year range have never seen something like this. Wish us luck | ||
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Belgium6768 Posts
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Xusneb
Canada612 Posts
Anyways, when 20-40 year olds start dying, that's really scary. Flu kills a lot of people but it's usually due to another illness compromising the immune system (ie. old people, sick people). But young people? Oh boy, not good! The Spanish flu (killed like 2 million in the 1910s) worked like this - the transmission was roughly the same as regular flu but the virulence (the killing potential) was much greater. | ||
FreeDoM[YA]
Canada855 Posts
On April 25 2009 11:52 Xusneb wrote: My research supervisor is a flu specialist. I don't mean to offend anyone but he's probably going to stay well-funded for a while with these outbreaks... Anyways, when 20-40 year olds start dying, that's really scary. Flu kills a lot of people but it's usually due to another illness compromising the immune system (ie. old people, sick people). But young people? Oh boy, not good! The Spanish flu (killed like 2 million in the 1910s) worked like this - the transmission was roughly the same as regular flu but the virulence (the killing potential) was much greater. That's comforting.... | ||
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Canada612 Posts
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IDWIJNI-
Mexico332 Posts
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Clasic
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
On April 24 2009 16:16 zXk3 wrote: the LOL its because it tookd the city hall 2 days to declare the epidemy, i am a little bit in denial and i dont know WTF i can do (we CANT leave the city until further notice), whats wrong if i want to take this situation in the best way possible (with humor), i moved here only because i met my GF, i CANT see her (for security reasons, i dont want to be the one killing her or her family), but yeah.. im shallow as fuck Yesterday News this is one of the reasons of my LOL Today News REALLY i dont know how to react those news are in spanish, but long story short, yesterday the government was denying everything, today they just declared the epidemy (or epidemic, or whatever) Like i said.. this is just my passive aggressive way to vent my impotence.. Wow, just wow. | ||
CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
On April 25 2009 11:52 Xusneb wrote: My research supervisor is a flu specialist. I don't mean to offend anyone but he's probably going to stay well-funded for a while with these outbreaks... Anyways, when 20-40 year olds start dying, that's really scary. Flu kills a lot of people but it's usually due to another illness compromising the immune system (ie. old people, sick people). But young people? Oh boy, not good! The Spanish flu (killed like 2 million in the 1910s) worked like this - the transmission was roughly the same as regular flu but the virulence (the killing potential) was much greater. Is it time to panic and start running around like beheaded chickens? Yes, it is. | ||
Scooter
United States747 Posts
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United States4146 Posts
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=32.639375,-110.390625&spn=15.738151,25.488281&z=5 - if u start seeing a fast spread in that map gg for many if ur interested: - keep on eye on this: http://www.who.int/csr/don/en/ - keep on eye on this: (scroll down to bottom and follow "MMWR" updates during this month) http://www.cdc.gov/flu/swine/investigation.htm - so far this virus is sensitive to tamiflu : ) (adult mild case or suspected are treated with 75 mg every 12 hours - 5 days, adult severe cases or confirmed/probable are treated with 150 mg every 12 hours) - if u live near follow the advice around healthy people http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/habits.htm - around sick people wear a mask and stay at least 6 feet away http://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/infectioncontrol/resphygiene.htm - if ur absolutely paranoid and everyone is healthy in the community (it might not give u full protection, but even partial can make a difference) http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.aspx?c=aqKGLXOAIlH&b=1015035 | ||
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On April 25 2009 14:09 Scooter wrote: ![]() edit: oh yeah, this scenario is scary as hell man. Good luck. ahahah so good | ||
a-game
Canada5085 Posts
On April 25 2009 14:22 Physician wrote: little tip http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=32.639375,-110.390625&spn=15.738151,25.488281&z=5 if u start seeing a fast spread in that map gg for many thank you | ||
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zXk3
Mexico1178 Posts
On April 25 2009 13:50 IDWIJNI- wrote: The virus came from USA! Do you fuck pigs up there or what? Crazy gringos... dude really.. dont EVER say something like this, if we have a stigma of being rude,lazy & whatnot.. you are not helping to clear that (dont forget you arent helping the thread neither) | ||
unknown.sam
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Kennelie
United States2296 Posts
On April 25 2009 14:22 Physician wrote: - little tip http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=32.639375,-110.390625&spn=15.738151,25.488281&z=5 - if u start seeing a fast spread in that map gg for many if ur interested: - keep on eye on this: http://www.who.int/csr/don/en/ - keep on eye on this: (scroll down to bottom and follow "MMWR" updates during this month) http://www.cdc.gov/flu/swine/investigation.htm - so far this virus is sensitive to tamiflu : ) (adult mild case or suspected are treated with 75 mg every 12 hours - 5 days, adult severe cases or confirmed/probable are treated with 150 mg every 12 hours) - if u live near follow the advice around healthy people http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/habits.htm - around sick people wear a mask and stay at least 6 feet away http://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/infectioncontrol/resphygiene.htm - if ur absolutely paranoid and everyone is healthy in the community (it might not give u full protection, but even partial can make a difference) http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.aspx?c=aqKGLXOAIlH&b=1015035 What makes u so sexy (doc)? Edit: I had to add in the (doc). | ||
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United States2296 Posts
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
On April 25 2009 14:09 Scooter wrote: ![]() edit: oh yeah, this scenario is scary as hell man. Good luck. Even though I don't really like that flash game, this comic is so damn funny. XD | ||
fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
![]() gonna have to read about it tomorrow, but it looks bad | ||
KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
And good luck to all our mexicans, hopefully it won't develop into anything truly serious. | ||
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Czech Republic2908 Posts
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SoulMarine
United States586 Posts
On April 24 2009 16:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: One less retard/asshole in the world if you die, I guess...o.O ... Wow. You're fucking mean. | ||
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Singapore66155 Posts
On April 25 2009 13:50 IDWIJNI- wrote: The virus came from USA! Do you fuck pigs up there or what? Crazy gringos... ![]() On April 25 2009 14:53 zXk3 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2009 13:50 IDWIJNI- wrote: The virus came from USA! Do you fuck pigs up there or what? Crazy gringos... dude really.. dont EVER say something like this, if we have a stigma of being rude,lazy & whatnot.. you are not helping to clear that (dont forget you arent helping the thread neither) Glad to see you're still alive and kicking. What's the situation like now? On April 25 2009 13:53 Clasic wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2009 16:16 zXk3 wrote: the LOL its because it tookd the city hall 2 days to declare the epidemy, i am a little bit in denial and i dont know WTF i can do (we CANT leave the city until further notice), whats wrong if i want to take this situation in the best way possible (with humor), i moved here only because i met my GF, i CANT see her (for security reasons, i dont want to be the one killing her or her family), but yeah.. im shallow as fuck Yesterday News this is one of the reasons of my LOL Today News REALLY i dont know how to react those news are in spanish, but long story short, yesterday the government was denying everything, today they just declared the epidemy (or epidemic, or whatever) Like i said.. this is just my passive aggressive way to vent my impotence.. Wow, just wow. What does the two news links say? | ||
x89titan
Philippines1130 Posts
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RaiZ
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I blame those 2 games not starcraft. | ||
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United States5223 Posts
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Deleted User 31060
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stock up on tamiflu everybody | ||
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jacen
Austria3644 Posts
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
On April 25 2009 11:29 PaeZ wrote: stop flaming the guy jeez The situation is like this, this Flu comes from porks and started in a hospital in Mexico City, apparently there are like 30 deaths now and only Mexico city and the suburbs are un quarantine, Guadalajara and Monterrey have begun taking action to avoid this to spread. Everyone is in panic because we people of 0-30 year range have never seen something like this. Wish us luck i love you stay safe amore | ||
Famehunter
Canada586 Posts
What would you do if you were prevented from going to work and at the end of the month you cant pay your rent and the owner wants you out of his place? Man I think I would go get myself a gun in that situation... Sorry for being so lazy, I dont feel like reading trough 5 pages of news. I'm just curious how it is for you people in that area. | ||
Biff The Understudy
France7877 Posts
On April 26 2009 05:37 Famehunter wrote: What's the situation like in the quarantine area ? Do people keep working ? The supermarkets must be getting empty pretty fast. What hapens if you cant go to work and are left without a salary ? Is the red cross giving out food / shelter ? What would you do if you were prevented from going to work and at the end of the month you cant pay your rent and the owner wants you out of his place? Man I think I would go get myself a gun in that situation... Sorry for being so lazy, I dont feel like reading trough 5 pages of news. I'm just curious how it is for you people in that area. Apparently they canceled social events and closed schools. They asked also sick people to go immediatly to the hospital and avoid going to work. No country would stop people to go to work unless facin a very very serious and uncontrolable epidemy. Every day people don't work is a huge wound in a countrie's economy. I don't think it will spread honestly. It's just a bit worrying all theses epidemies related to industrial farming. Food industry is fucked up anyway. | ||
FlamyDeath
Netherlands146 Posts
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Taiwan58 Posts
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
I know how this is ... isnt this epidemy like El Dengue? back when I used to live in Venezuela there was always lots of people dying from it, specially the ones in poverty.. and fuck every1 flaming on zxk3! watch your mouths! | ||
Boblion
France8043 Posts
On April 24 2009 17:56 KarlSberg~ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2009 17:53 gzealot wrote: This just makes me wonder sometimes.. if a pandemic?epidemic? did break out, especially with virus with long interval between contraction and being symptomatic, while being transmittable. (Whats the word for that? Virulent?) If someone took a plane home a week ago to his home country .... End up with a L4D-esque situation. I think theres very little governments can do once it gets rolling.. Except the government of Madagascar. LOL Anyway gl to all the Mexican and American people here ~ No casualties please ![]() | ||
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Railz
United States1449 Posts
=( School here in NY shut down because of it. | ||
{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On April 26 2009 07:12 Odeur wrote: dont let it come to europpppeee D: If the time line is correct then it would probably come as no surprise if it is already incubating somewhere in Europe. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/25/swine-flu-pandemic-mexico-flight Chance it spread? | ||
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United States1951 Posts
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United States3443 Posts
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Railz
United States1449 Posts
On April 26 2009 08:10 n.DieJokes wrote: Um, when someone said mutant strand of influenza; do they mean like ridiculous super efficient fuck your flu vaccination strand? Gl to anyone there btw Influenza tends to mutate so often that there is no real definition of it other then the family it derives from. As for being 'deadly' as your line might come across as, deaths in Mexico, but no reported deaths in the US, so it is still to tough to call how deadly it is if the person is taken care of. | ||
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Disintegrate
United States182 Posts
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TT1
Canada9997 Posts
i never had any respiratory problems tho since i got this flu | ||
oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
2 days too late as always | ||
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United States1371 Posts
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arcticStorm
United States295 Posts
http://twitter.com/veratect Does anyone else think this sounds like the flash game pandemic? | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
On April 26 2009 12:04 Jumperer wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2009 10:30 iamtt1 wrote: 1 week ago i got diagnosed with most likely having influenza, the day i went to the hospital i felt like i was about to die.. the night before my whole body started shaking out of nowhere and when i woke up i felt like i was on fire, anyways the doctor gave me this medication called Tamiflu and told me to keep taking it twice a day for 5 days, i was suppose to have another appointement with him when the pills were done(which was like 5-6 days ago) but since i started feeling better i didnt go, i still cough alot but i dont have headaches anymore and my temperature is normal i never had any respiratory problems tho since i got this flu IT HAS ARRIVED IN CANADA Somehow it has arrived here in the philippines as well.. Dammit I'm gonna miss eating Pork chop ![]() | ||
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Canada9103 Posts
On April 26 2009 10:30 iamtt1 wrote: 1 week ago i got diagnosed with most likely having influenza, the day i went to the hospital i felt like i was about to die.. the night before my whole body started shaking out of nowhere and when i woke up i felt like i was on fire, anyways the doctor gave me this medication called Tamiflu and told me to keep taking it twice a day for 5 days, i was suppose to have another appointement with him when the pills were done(which was like 5-6 days ago) but since i started feeling better i didnt go, i still cough alot but i dont have headaches anymore and my temperature is normal i never had any respiratory problems tho since i got this flu Did he tell you not to make an appointment if you were feeling better? If not, then make one and go. | ||
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IDWIJNI-
Mexico332 Posts
On April 25 2009 14:53 zXk3 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 25 2009 13:50 IDWIJNI- wrote: The virus came from USA! Do you fuck pigs up there or what? Crazy gringos... dude really.. dont EVER say something like this, if we have a stigma of being rude,lazy & whatnot.. you are not helping to clear that (dont forget you arent helping the thread neither) Sorry, then. At the time I posted that, I was chatting with a friend in MX City, joking mostly (what else?), but there were some tension because of the news about the virus. Neta espero que tú y tu gente se mantengan en buena salud. | ||
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On April 24 2009 16:08 {88}iNcontroL wrote: failing to understand the "LOL" at the beginning of a thread about people dying in your hometown.. but ok. Hes shocked, probably on the verge of panic, of course you respond like like that goes down. Like when the twin towers got hit, people were like haha what? are you kidding me? around my school, then the horror and shock kicked when we go home. | ||
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Singapore235 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On April 26 2009 12:04 Jumperer wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2009 10:30 iamtt1 wrote: 1 week ago i got diagnosed with most likely having influenza, the day i went to the hospital i felt like i was about to die.. the night before my whole body started shaking out of nowhere and when i woke up i felt like i was on fire, anyways the doctor gave me this medication called Tamiflu and told me to keep taking it twice a day for 5 days, i was suppose to have another appointement with him when the pills were done(which was like 5-6 days ago) but since i started feeling better i didnt go, i still cough alot but i dont have headaches anymore and my temperature is normal i never had any respiratory problems tho since i got this flu IT HAS ARRIVED IN CANADA -stares at carrier icon- *laughs* -smacks himself for being a sc nerd- | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
link 1 link 2 Original post : + Show Spoiler + On April 24 2009 16:16 zXk3 wrote: the LOL its because it tookd the city hall 2 days to declare the epidemy, i am a little bit in denial and i dont know WTF i can do (we CANT leave the city until further notice), whats wrong if i want to take this situation in the best way possible (with humor), i moved here only because i met my GF, i CANT see her (for security reasons, i dont want to be the one killing her or her family), but yeah.. im shallow as fuck Yesterday News this is one of the reasons of my LOL Today News REALLY i dont know how to react those news are in spanish, but long story short, yesterday the government was denying everything, today they just declared the epidemy (or epidemic, or whatever) Like i said.. this is just my passive aggressive way to vent my impotence.. | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On April 26 2009 02:03 RaiZ wrote: See ? Too much resident evil / left 4 dead could resume to paranoid ppl having their big guns around. I blame those 2 games not starcraft. you realize absolutely no one in this thread has made an argument pertaining to that | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
its happening (it may have reached NZ :O!) | ||
Railz
United States1449 Posts
On April 26 2009 15:06 Plexa wrote: http://www.freewebarcade.com/game/pandemic-2/ its happening (it may have reached NZ :O!) Fuck island countries who close ports when a man sneezes. | ||
StarKiller
France51 Posts
I believe we should all move to africa, it is going to become the safest place on the planet soon PS: Don't forget to bring boxes of condom though | ||
thompzn
Sweden42 Posts
On April 26 2009 15:50 StarKiller wrote: Between terrorism, growing tensions over nuclear arsenal, the economic meltdown and now this I believe we should all move to africa, it is going to become the safest place on the planet soon PS: Don't forget to bring boxes of condom though Ehm Africa? Are you crazy ![]() Malaria, yellow fever, dengue fever, cholera, TB and a shitload of other diseases which pretty much doesn't exist in the "western world". And the whole region is unstable as h***. Lots of crazy freedom/peoples liberations 'gangs' and not to mention the wierd dictators. Oh and pirates which will kidnap you for ransom or you'll be eaten by a lion ![]() And I hear they have crap internetz so no SC. i suggest Antarctica I'm sure the could use some volunteer workers on some of the scientific stations or maybe Svalbard abit more accessible but still remote. | ||
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food
United States1951 Posts
On April 26 2009 16:07 thompzn wrote: And the whole region is unstable as h***. im curious what word starts with h that you had to censor | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On April 26 2009 16:07 thompzn wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2009 15:50 StarKiller wrote: Between terrorism, growing tensions over nuclear arsenal, the economic meltdown and now this I believe we should all move to africa, it is going to become the safest place on the planet soon PS: Don't forget to bring boxes of condom though Ehm Africa? Are you crazy ![]() Malaria, yellow fever, dengue fever, cholera, TB and a shitload of other diseases which pretty much doesn't exist in the "western world". There is a lot wrong with your statement. The reason people that go to Africa get a load of antibiotics and immunizations is to stop things like Malaria and other crap you stated. Most of those diseases can be avoided if you do simple things like boil your water (cholera), live cleanly (malaria), and take the damn immunizations (yellow fever). TB is TB, that stuff is everywhere. I still don't advocate moving to Africa though ![]() | ||
StarKiller
France51 Posts
On April 26 2009 16:07 thompzn wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2009 15:50 StarKiller wrote: Between terrorism, growing tensions over nuclear arsenal, the economic meltdown and now this I believe we should all move to africa, it is going to become the safest place on the planet soon PS: Don't forget to bring boxes of condom though Ehm Africa? Are you crazy ![]() Malaria, yellow fever, dengue fever, cholera, TB and a shitload of other diseases which pretty much doesn't exist in the "western world". And the whole region is unstable as h***. Lots of crazy freedom/peoples liberations 'gangs' and not to mention the wierd dictators. Oh and pirates which will kidnap you for ransom or you'll be eaten by a lion ![]() And I hear they have crap internetz so no SC. Exactly my point, that's easy compared to what's coming for us ! | ||
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Finland768 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On April 26 2009 17:10 MuR)Ernu wrote: Gogogogo scientists make up a medicine for this shit. And don't be greedy as usual ![]() i hear it responds to tamiflu, which we already have. | ||
NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On April 26 2009 16:54 StarKiller wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2009 16:07 thompzn wrote: On April 26 2009 15:50 StarKiller wrote: Between terrorism, growing tensions over nuclear arsenal, the economic meltdown and now this I believe we should all move to africa, it is going to become the safest place on the planet soon PS: Don't forget to bring boxes of condom though Ehm Africa? Are you crazy ![]() Malaria, yellow fever, dengue fever, cholera, TB and a shitload of other diseases which pretty much doesn't exist in the "western world". And the whole region is unstable as h***. Lots of crazy freedom/peoples liberations 'gangs' and not to mention the wierd dictators. Oh and pirates which will kidnap you for ransom or you'll be eaten by a lion ![]() And I hear they have crap internetz so no SC. Exactly my point, that's easy compared to what's coming for us ! Resident Evil 5 | ||
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United States3983 Posts
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thompzn
Sweden42 Posts
On April 26 2009 16:46 RA wrote: Cholera still exists in Africa?! I thought that Ripley said truth in Alien3! :D Yea cholera still exists in Africa and other places in the world http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholera What does Ripley say in Alien3? On April 26 2009 16:48 Jayme wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2009 16:07 thompzn wrote: On April 26 2009 15:50 StarKiller wrote: Between terrorism, growing tensions over nuclear arsenal, the economic meltdown and now this I believe we should all move to africa, it is going to become the safest place on the planet soon PS: Don't forget to bring boxes of condom though Ehm Africa? Are you crazy ![]() Malaria, yellow fever, dengue fever, cholera, TB and a shitload of other diseases which pretty much doesn't exist in the "western world". There is a lot wrong with your statement. The reason people that go to Africa get a load of antibiotics and immunizations is to stop things like Malaria and other crap you stated. Most of those diseases can be avoided if you do simple things like boil your water (cholera), live cleanly (malaria), and take the damn immunizations (yellow fever). TB is TB, that stuff is everywhere. I still don't advocate moving to Africa though ![]() Yes most (if not all of those diseases) could easily be fixed with the right antibiotics and immunizations. And if alot of western people would be forced to move to Africa I'm sure the problems would be fixed really fast but that wasn't the point of StarKillers post (atleast what I made of it) because if alot of western people would move to Africa there would be no point in going as it would be exactly the same as here. What I understod from the post (which I'm sure was a joke but lets put that aside for now) was that a few would go to protect themself from the possible influenza epedemic and then it's far from certain you would have acess to the right or any antibiotics. Didn't realise that TB was so widespread. It's extremely rare in Sweden something like under 400 cases a year and nearly all of them is "imported" meaning that they cought it somewhere it's common and brought it back here. To stay on topic it seams that the reported cabincrew on the flight from mexico didn't have the swine flue. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/26/swine-flu-outbreak-mexico-pandemic "In London, tests showed that a member of cabin crew on a British Airways flight from Mexico City did not have swine flu. The man, who has not been named, was taken to hospital yesterday with "flu-like symptoms" after landing at Heathrow. A hospital spokesman said: "I can confirm he does not have swine flu. All the tests have come back negative."" | ||
jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
On April 26 2009 16:46 RA wrote: Cholera still exists in Africa?! I thought that Ripley said truth in Alien3! :D Umm, I'm pretty sure that's set far in the future lol | ||
CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
On April 26 2009 17:13 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2009 17:10 MuR)Ernu wrote: Gogogogo scientists make up a medicine for this shit. And don't be greedy as usual ![]() i hear it responds to tamiflu, which we already have. Well, i keep hearing from experts in CNN Spanish that tamiflu really doesn`t help that much because this is a new strain and therefore not something against we have a specific treatment right now. | ||
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Canada1783 Posts
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8019566.stm | ||
CursOr
United States6335 Posts
just keep your immune systems strong. eat healthy. take Eccinacia and Astragalus in alternating 2 week cycles. if you get it, chances are much better youll be one of the survivers with a strong immune system. btw eat health mostly means sugar, sugar is like bottom line the worst thing you can eat for your immune system. | ||
Famehunter
Canada586 Posts
Currently it's N.C.S.America, Europe, Oceania. Only missing Africa and Asia and you have a global world wide pandemic. -Edit: now confirmed cases in asia... | ||
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Heggie
United Kingdom167 Posts
http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/ Lot's of interesting info. For example it highlights the curious observation of "the stark contrast between the clinical and epidemiological picture in Mexico and the US, with reported Mexican cases winding up on ventilators and dying with severe lower respiratory disease while US cases have been mild with uneventful recoveries." I've found it to be reliable in the past on other health issues. My only worry about this blog is that it could be anyone who writes it. The about section claims that "The Editors of Effect Measure are senior public health scientists and practitioners. Their names would be immediately recognizable to many in the public health community. They prefer to keep their online and public lives separate to allow maximum freedom of expression." | ||
Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
On April 26 2009 16:48 Jayme wrote: Yeah an ex-girlfriend grew up in africa and apparently even if you get vaccinated (or whatever) against malaria you still "get" it and it fucks you up a bit. This was in the 80's so maybe there are better stuff now. Also her sister got some weird amoeba or some other intestine bug and still have problems maintaining weight. Africa is no joke.Show nested quote + On April 26 2009 16:07 thompzn wrote: On April 26 2009 15:50 StarKiller wrote: Between terrorism, growing tensions over nuclear arsenal, the economic meltdown and now this I believe we should all move to africa, it is going to become the safest place on the planet soon PS: Don't forget to bring boxes of condom though Ehm Africa? Are you crazy ![]() Malaria, yellow fever, dengue fever, cholera, TB and a shitload of other diseases which pretty much doesn't exist in the "western world". There is a lot wrong with your statement. The reason people that go to Africa get a load of antibiotics and immunizations is to stop things like Malaria and other crap you stated. Most of those diseases can be avoided if you do simple things like boil your water (cholera), live cleanly (malaria), and take the damn immunizations (yellow fever). TB is TB, that stuff is everywhere. I still don't advocate moving to Africa though ![]() | ||
Scooter
United States747 Posts
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/04/26/2552700.htm Deadly swine flu outbreak 'can't be contained' + Show Spoiler [rest of the article] + Print Email Share Add to My Stories Deadly swine flu outbreak 'can't be contained' The strain of swine flu is suspected of killing as many as 60 people in Mexico. The US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says an unusual new flu virus has spread widely and cannot be contained, as the World Health Organisation urges governments to be on the alert. "It is clear that this is widespread," the CDC's Dr Anne Schuchat told reporters. "And that is why we have let you know that we cannot contain the spread of this virus." The strain of swine flu is suspected of killing as many as 60 people in Mexico and infecting thousands more. It is a new strain, and therefore poorly understood. The World Health Organisation (WHO) says it does not know the full risk yet. The organisation has held an emergency meeting to discuss the outbreak. Its director-general, Margaret Chan, says the deadly new form is serious and does have pandemic potential. "It has pandemic potential because it is infecting people," WHO Director-General Margaret Chan said in Geneva. "However, we cannot say on the basis of currently available laboratory, epidemiological and clinical evidence whether or not it will indeed cause a pandemic." The WHO is advising all countries to be vigilant for seasonally unusual flu or pneumonia like symptoms among their populations, particularly among young, healthy adults who seem to be the most affected in Mexico. The CDC's acting director, Dr Richard Besser, says it seems humans are transmitting the virus. "There are things that we see that suggest that containment is not very likely, in that we are seeing cases in Texas and we're seeing cases in San Diego without any connection between them, which makes us think that there's been transmission from person to person," he said. The Mexican government says there will be a mass vaccination campaign, and in the meantime it has closed all schools and universities. CDC officials are assisting public health authorities in Mexico to test additional specimens and providing epidemiological support as part of a WHO team. The centres have also dispatched teams in southern California, where several cases were reported. Health leaders in the US, Mexico, Canada and at the WHO say they are communicating frequently, and state and local US health authorities are conducting investigations. There is no vaccine to protect humans from swine flu, only to protect pigs, according to the CDC. Dr Schuchat says measures are being taken to produce a vaccine against the virus if necessary, but cautions that it usually takes "months" to produce a vaccine. "We're not going to have large amounts of vaccine tomorrow," she warned. Looks like the quarantine isn't working. Hopefully it'll stay isolated for long enough that they can make a vaccine. | ||
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United States7342 Posts
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Marradron
Netherlands1586 Posts
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a-game
Canada5085 Posts
we have pretty good healthcare though | ||
Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On April 27 2009 02:47 Shivaz wrote: Reading that just sent me back to that day I played Pandemic II for 18 hours straight.Anyone watching the news, I am watching ATM. Breaking news just said 4 mild cases has been confirmed in Nova Scotia and 2 in BC. I know that reference has already been made, but eh =/ | ||
Railxp
Hong Kong1313 Posts
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HooHa!
United States688 Posts
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
This epidemic is very very minor at this point. But news is slow and news stations just love covering this kind of crap. | ||
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Canada2620 Posts
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PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
Also there have been deaths in other 5 states in Mexico: San Luis Potosi, Oaxaca, Baja California, Mexico City; State of Mexico, Monterrey. Lets see how this evolves. | ||
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Noobville17921 Posts
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On April 27 2009 08:32 PaeZ wrote: Update, The epidemy has advanced towards Monterrey and Guadalajara (my city), there has been 1 death reported in monterrey and 3 possible cases that are critical in Guadalajara, classes have been suspended in the 3 biggest universities in Guadalajara including my own :S, this shit is spreading fast! Also there have been deaths in other 5 states in Mexico: San Luis Potosi, Oaxaca, Baja California, Mexico City; State of Mexico, Monterrey. Lets see how this evolves. ![]() As long as you're not elderly, HIV positive, an infant, or child you'll be fine ![]() | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On April 27 2009 08:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2009 08:32 PaeZ wrote: Update, The epidemy has advanced towards Monterrey and Guadalajara (my city), there has been 1 death reported in monterrey and 3 possible cases that are critical in Guadalajara, classes have been suspended in the 3 biggest universities in Guadalajara including my own :S, this shit is spreading fast! Also there have been deaths in other 5 states in Mexico: San Luis Potosi, Oaxaca, Baja California, Mexico City; State of Mexico, Monterrey. Lets see how this evolves. ![]() As long as you're not elderly, HIV positive, an infant, or child you'll be fine ![]() The virus has been affecting young adults. Which is why officials are worried. | ||
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GhostKorean
United States2330 Posts
EDIT: Apparently someone I know is mildly infected... | ||
XoXiDe
United States620 Posts
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On April 27 2009 08:50 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2009 08:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: On April 27 2009 08:32 PaeZ wrote: Update, The epidemy has advanced towards Monterrey and Guadalajara (my city), there has been 1 death reported in monterrey and 3 possible cases that are critical in Guadalajara, classes have been suspended in the 3 biggest universities in Guadalajara including my own :S, this shit is spreading fast! Also there have been deaths in other 5 states in Mexico: San Luis Potosi, Oaxaca, Baja California, Mexico City; State of Mexico, Monterrey. Lets see how this evolves. ![]() As long as you're not elderly, HIV positive, an infant, or child you'll be fine ![]() The virus has been affecting young adults. Which is why officials are worried. But they're recovering. Getting the flu sucks, but nothing to "fear". | ||
Mooga
United States575 Posts
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Clasic
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
On April 27 2009 08:35 arb wrote: Im glad i live in the mountains where no one else lives >< I live in a sewer, I'm used to all kinds of fucked diseases | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
Unless it mutates soon and becomes more deadly I don't think we have to worrie about it so much. But I wouldn't want to be in mexico right now. | ||
EAGER-beaver
Canada2799 Posts
On April 27 2009 08:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2009 08:32 PaeZ wrote: Update, The epidemy has advanced towards Monterrey and Guadalajara (my city), there has been 1 death reported in monterrey and 3 possible cases that are critical in Guadalajara, classes have been suspended in the 3 biggest universities in Guadalajara including my own :S, this shit is spreading fast! Also there have been deaths in other 5 states in Mexico: San Luis Potosi, Oaxaca, Baja California, Mexico City; State of Mexico, Monterrey. Lets see how this evolves. ![]() As long as you're not elderly, HIV positive, an infant, or child you'll be fine ![]() As crazy as this sounds, in 1918 when the spanish flu was going around most fatalities occured in the 20-30 age group, hitting healthy young individuals the hardest. This was partly because of the war time conditions (lots of young men packed in boats in port cities) and that the immune system response in a stronger person was so powerful it would end up killing the individual, not the virus. Young healthy people died because they drowned in their own mucus and antibodies produced to fight the flu... oh the irony. EDIT: I read about it in The Great Influenza by John M. Barry, great book. | ||
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United States4146 Posts
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1173672/Obamas-swine-flu-scare-shaking-hands-archaeologist-died-24-hours-later.html In other words Obama is probably incubating this stuff now. "ninja" edit to avoid CONFUSION: reports say it was pneumonia "unrelated" to swine flu. | ||
TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On April 27 2009 10:48 EAGER-beaver wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2009 08:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: On April 27 2009 08:32 PaeZ wrote: Update, The epidemy has advanced towards Monterrey and Guadalajara (my city), there has been 1 death reported in monterrey and 3 possible cases that are critical in Guadalajara, classes have been suspended in the 3 biggest universities in Guadalajara including my own :S, this shit is spreading fast! Also there have been deaths in other 5 states in Mexico: San Luis Potosi, Oaxaca, Baja California, Mexico City; State of Mexico, Monterrey. Lets see how this evolves. ![]() As long as you're not elderly, HIV positive, an infant, or child you'll be fine ![]() As crazy as this sounds, in 1918 when the spanish flu was going around most fatalities occured in the 20-30 age group, hitting healthy young individuals the hardest. This was partly because of the war time conditions (lots of young men packed in boats in port cities) and that the immune system response in a stronger person was so powerful it would end up killing the individual, not the virus. Young healthy people died because they drowned in their own mucus and antibodies produced to fight the flu... oh the irony. EDIT: I read about it in The Great Influenza by John M. Barry, great book. Gnarly. Not all that relevant nowadays, but crazy ![]() | ||
TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On April 27 2009 10:53 Physician wrote: Obama's swine flu scare after shaking hands with archaeologist who died 24 hours later. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1173672/Obamas-swine-flu-scare-shaking-hands-archaeologist-died-24-hours-later.html In other words Obama is probably incubating this stuff now. Did you actually read the article? Mexican health officials don't think the archaelogist was exposed at all. He was already very sick Edit: Nice ninja edit;). | ||
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On April 27 2009 10:56 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Did you actually read the article? yup, I did. The title and sentence I posted does say it was a "scare". I rather be a cynic though; the edit was to spare myself of comments like yours. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
please arm yourselves. Store up supplies. And for Christ's sake don't let them bite you. This is not a drill. They said it was swine flu and was in only a few states. They said that it was minor and easily treatable. They also said that it wouldn't turn humans into zombies. They were wrong. This may be the last message I send. The zombies are already breaking into my building and I'm low on food supplies. This is my last warning before the electricity goes off here: get out of here before it's too late! Now if you'd excuse me, it's time to buy time for the rest of you. Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori! | ||
MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On April 27 2009 10:54 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2009 10:48 EAGER-beaver wrote: On April 27 2009 08:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: On April 27 2009 08:32 PaeZ wrote: Update, The epidemy has advanced towards Monterrey and Guadalajara (my city), there has been 1 death reported in monterrey and 3 possible cases that are critical in Guadalajara, classes have been suspended in the 3 biggest universities in Guadalajara including my own :S, this shit is spreading fast! Also there have been deaths in other 5 states in Mexico: San Luis Potosi, Oaxaca, Baja California, Mexico City; State of Mexico, Monterrey. Lets see how this evolves. ![]() As long as you're not elderly, HIV positive, an infant, or child you'll be fine ![]() As crazy as this sounds, in 1918 when the spanish flu was going around most fatalities occured in the 20-30 age group, hitting healthy young individuals the hardest. This was partly because of the war time conditions (lots of young men packed in boats in port cities) and that the immune system response in a stronger person was so powerful it would end up killing the individual, not the virus. Young healthy people died because they drowned in their own mucus and antibodies produced to fight the flu... oh the irony. EDIT: I read about it in The Great Influenza by John M. Barry, great book. Gnarly. Not all that relevant nowadays, but crazy ![]() Sure it is. The scariest flus are the new ones. Like, say, (this newly human to human transmissible) swine flu. It hasn't really adapted to human hosts yet (or vice versa), as shown by the death toll, particularly among young, healthy people. For the virus' own good, it shouldn't be killing its hosts like that, but it is. As with any new flu, before it settles down it has the potential to be a repeat of 1918, except now we have airliners. This scares the crap out of me. My great grandfather emigrated with his parents and they settled here in the mountain west. In 1918, the flu killed his two brothers. When I visit their graves, and see all the other grave stones with the same year of death in the tiny town they initially settled it is very disturbing. | ||
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Ziph
Netherlands970 Posts
![]() I found this image on wiki (edit the wiki legenda is wrong) Pink markers are suspect Purple markers are confirmed Deaths lack a dot in marker Yellow markers are negative http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=32.639375,-110.390625&spn=15.738151,25.488281&z=5 Live Google Map where you can follow all the new cases and stuff. | ||
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pink without dot confirmed death | ||
kazokun
United States163 Posts
On April 27 2009 18:59 mahnini wrote: kind of strange that the only fatalities are in mexico. i'd like to see what the explanation is for that if there is one. Lack of preperation, perhaps. The highest mortality rates are always during the first few days of an endemic. | ||
Piste
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On April 27 2009 18:59 mahnini wrote: kind of strange that the only fatalities are in mexico. i'd like to see what the explanation is for that if there is one. That's not even true ![]() | ||
Wohmfg
United Kingdom1292 Posts
On April 27 2009 18:59 mahnini wrote: kind of strange that the only fatalities are in mexico. i'd like to see what the explanation is for that if there is one. From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8020222.stm: "However, no-one outside of Mexico has yet died, leading to suggestions that the severity of the cases there may be due to the strain mixing with a second unrelated virus circulating in the community." | ||
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On April 27 2009 21:28 ruXxar wrote: I just got a question that I always wondered about. If you get sick by a virus strain(lets say swine flu) and you survive(your body fought it off), are you then immune to getting sick by the exact same virus strain again? Like sort of your body has made its own vaccine for the virus now? yeah, but you have to survive it first also flu tends to mutate really fast, so a new strain can exist after just a year (which is why we get yearly flu shots) | ||
ailouros
United States193 Posts
![]() only like, a day out of our trip but still sort of a bummer~ | ||
Boblion
France8043 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm Maybe it works like that too with the new virus. Any experts ? | ||
Boblion
France8043 Posts
lol ![]() About the 1918 flu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu The unusually severe disease killed between 2 and 20% of those infected, as opposed to the more usual flu epidemic mortality rate of 0.1%. Another unusual feature of this pandemic was that it mostly killed young adults, with 99% of pandemic influenza deaths occurring in people under 65, and more than half in young adults 20 to 40 years old | ||
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mmgoose
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On April 27 2009 22:04 BaltA wrote: GL HF mexicans! omg omg lol what? "good luck" and... "have fun"? | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32046 Posts
On April 27 2009 08:25 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Oh yay now we get to hear the media blow it completely out of proportion like they did with the avian bird flu. This epidemic is very very minor at this point. But news is slow and news stations just love covering this kind of crap. lol 40 something people dying to a new disease is minor crap?? | ||
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Catyoul
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On April 27 2009 21:28 ruXxar wrote: I just got a question that I always wondered about. If you get sick by a virus strain(lets say swine flu) and you survive(your body fought it off), are you then immune to getting sick by the exact same virus strain again? Like sort of your body has made its own vaccine for the virus now? That's actually how (most) vaccines work. You get inoculated by weakened/dead pathogens, which the body can fight without (too much) adverse effects so your immune systems remembers how to fight it (either all your life or for some period of time, in the latter case you need reminder shots every x years). | ||
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
On April 27 2009 22:25 NovaTheFeared wrote: 103 in Mexico alone last I checked, with ~1600 infected. u think infected people are way over that by now ![]() | ||
Railz
United States1449 Posts
On April 27 2009 22:16 Hawk wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2009 08:25 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Oh yay now we get to hear the media blow it completely out of proportion like they did with the avian bird flu. This epidemic is very very minor at this point. But news is slow and news stations just love covering this kind of crap. lol 40 something people dying to a new disease is minor crap?? I agree, if the media didn't blow it out of proportion, it'd probably spread like wildfire since people would be totally unaware of what is happening. | ||
Boblion
France8043 Posts
Game over flu ;D | ||
Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
On April 27 2009 23:24 Railz wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2009 22:16 Hawk wrote: On April 27 2009 08:25 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Oh yay now we get to hear the media blow it completely out of proportion like they did with the avian bird flu. This epidemic is very very minor at this point. But news is slow and news stations just love covering this kind of crap. lol 40 something people dying to a new disease is minor crap?? I agree, if the media didn't blow it out of proportion, it'd probably spread like wildfire since people would be totally unaware of what is happening. i never thought about it that way. Good point though | ||
MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
Gl with the flu, hope you don't get LOL (fake laugh cause your a dick) | ||
jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
On April 27 2009 23:55 Boblion wrote: http://kadreg.free.fr/perso/fermeture-accee-madagascar.html Game over flu ;D The president of the island of Madagascar, Mr. Ravalomanana, announced this morning that the closure of the borders of the island to prevent the entry of swine influenza. Google translator ftw! | ||
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PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
If this shit continues we mexicans wont know what to do, classes are suspended, malls are being closed etc etc etc. Tamiflu (Oseltamivir) and most antivirals are scarce and panic is beginning to take over most people at least in Guadalajara... | ||
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On April 27 2009 23:55 Boblion wrote: http://kadreg.free.fr/perso/fermeture-accee-madagascar.html Game over flu ;D pwned it didn't even stand a chance | ||
Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
On April 28 2009 00:55 PaeZ wrote: Now the disease has spread to like 20 states out of 31 that Mexico has, 7 more deaths from yesterday noon to today morning in Mexico City, more cases are being confirmed as I type this... If this shit continues we mexicans wont know what to do, classes are suspended, malls are being closed etc etc etc. Tamiflu (Oseltamivir) and most antivirals are scarce and panic is beginning to take over most people at least in Guadalajara... yeah, this must be a pretty big deal indeed, as they've already closed one of the biggest and most important economic events in mexico, the national fair of san marcos :s. I think the biggest problem is people not working imo, more than the infected / death ratio. anyways, it sucks because we cant do shit and its pretty boring :0 | ||
PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
On April 28 2009 01:06 Night[Mare wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2009 00:55 PaeZ wrote: Now the disease has spread to like 20 states out of 31 that Mexico has, 7 more deaths from yesterday noon to today morning in Mexico City, more cases are being confirmed as I type this... If this shit continues we mexicans wont know what to do, classes are suspended, malls are being closed etc etc etc. Tamiflu (Oseltamivir) and most antivirals are scarce and panic is beginning to take over most people at least in Guadalajara... yeah, this must be a pretty big deal indeed, as they've already closed one of the biggest and most important economic events in mexico, the national fair of san marcos :s. I think the biggest problem is people not working imo, more than the infected / death ratio. anyways, it sucks because we cant do shit and its pretty boring :0 Yeah, also the thing that worries me is that i have some of the symptoms they mention, I already went to the doctor and they ruled out me having the Flu, but Paranoia still exists... | ||
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
On April 28 2009 01:08 PaeZ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2009 01:06 Night[Mare wrote: On April 28 2009 00:55 PaeZ wrote: Now the disease has spread to like 20 states out of 31 that Mexico has, 7 more deaths from yesterday noon to today morning in Mexico City, more cases are being confirmed as I type this... If this shit continues we mexicans wont know what to do, classes are suspended, malls are being closed etc etc etc. Tamiflu (Oseltamivir) and most antivirals are scarce and panic is beginning to take over most people at least in Guadalajara... yeah, this must be a pretty big deal indeed, as they've already closed one of the biggest and most important economic events in mexico, the national fair of san marcos :s. I think the biggest problem is people not working imo, more than the infected / death ratio. anyways, it sucks because we cant do shit and its pretty boring :0 Yeah, also the thing that worries me is that i have some of the symptoms they mention, I already went to the doctor and they ruled out me having the Flu, but Paranoia still exists... i hear ya, take care man please. <3 | ||
PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
Classes of all levels (from kindergarden to Universities) have been suspended until the 6th of May, situation is starting to get out of control. The economy is also beginning to crumble, there was a decrease in 3.7% in the BMV ![]() | ||
IDWIJNI-
Mexico332 Posts
Supposedly, the virus is not resistant in high temperatures, but there are people here who had/have flu two or three weeks. | ||
teufelina
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I am from Toluca, a city 1 hour and a half away from Mexico City.... Yeah, schools are all closed 'til may 6th (that's awful cuz that was the last day of my semester) Second, you CAN go to public places, but many of them (NOT ALL OF THEM) are already closed, cinemas, parks, restaurants, bars, etc. Besides, it feels like in I am a legend....well..not that much...but streets are not very crowded... and many other wear mmm dont know its name...the thingy u use to cover ur mouth? hehe Some others just think everything as a joke and are behaving as nothing is happening around them.... I just think that's stupid U_U We don't know the exact number of dead people.... The government says there are only 20 cases related to the virus, but there are over 100 people died already....and no one explains the reality!! Another thing: an email is being circulated, it says there is NO swine flu going around, it says it's another letal virus but the government doesnt want to tell because everybody would panic.... Honestly, i do not know what to believe....the only thing is that everybody in my family and friends are taking precautions.... ![]() | ||
teufelina
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The government says there are only 20 cases related to the virus, but there are over 100 people died already Awful grammar...sorry!! Sorry, the governmet says only 20 deaths are related to the virus, but in many newpapers and different media say thera are more than 100.... Every notice is different U_U Horrible... Another thing!! this virus DID NOT START IN MEXICO!! Every one is thinking that, US especially.... This did not start here! It started somewhere is Asia, carried it to the south of the US and then infected mexican population ok? ¬¬ | ||
pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
Switzerland: First Confirmed Swine Influenza Case in Country | ||
jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
Both just returned from Mexico and are in quarantine. | ||
Deleted User 3420
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micro ur friends and family asap but in all seriousness i hope this doesnt get out of control, heh | ||
pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
Belgium: Six suspected swine influenza cases reported by national authorities Seriously. We are f*cked | ||
kazokun
United States163 Posts
On April 28 2009 03:32 travis wrote: it's like a game u guys! micro ur friends and family asap but in all seriousness i hope this doesnt get out of control, heh Seeing as we're already seeing cases in europe and america, I'd say it's already out of control. | ||
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zXk3
Mexico1178 Posts
As many have commented, no school until 6th may (and even then, thats only a temptative date) all the daycares are closed too (thats a big impact to working single moms), many public events have cancelled, "the rasmus" concert was cancelled, Wolverine movie premier havent been cancelled yet but Hugh Jackman wont be attending, i heard that Metallica also cancelled... Mexico city looks like a ghost town compared to 2 weeks ago, while generally i would be happy of that (no crowd in a big & interesting city is nice) now its just depressing, but if the gov choose do the next move (closing the subway and other means of public transportation) THEN chaos would ensure.. many business have already closed their doors until further notice, and the ones that havent would suffer a lot of absences, this looks like a biblical scene.. about an hour ago and earthquake happened, while it was a short one, it was bad enough to make a significant crack over my appartment wall and fitting enough there was a grasshopper on steroids at my window.. Yesterday i went to the hospital, but in the end i regret it a bit, im ready to beat this thing.. like travis said, iam already microing my family, and even if i lose my main i have setted up a secret expo, if this thing goes out of control ill go back to my hometown, so far we cant do anything except keep living our lives, i dont plan to stop working at all unless i got sick but even then, ill drown myself in teramiflu.. thanks to all the ppl that have wished us the best.. and the ones that keep jumping at the LOL in the op.. well i wont excuse myself but you guys shouldnt be skipping the whole thread.. | ||
pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
On April 28 2009 04:07 zXk3 wrote: Reporting from Mexico City; As many have commented, no school until 6th may (and even then, thats only a temptative date) all the daycares are closed too (thats a big impact to working single moms), many public events have cancelled, "the rasmus" concert was cancelled, Wolverine movie premier havent been cancelled yet but Hugh Jackman wont be attending, i heard that Metallica also cancelled... Mexico city looks like a ghost town compared to 2 weeks ago, while generally i would be happy of that (no crowd in a big & interesting city is nice) now its just depressing, but if the gov choose do the next move (closing the subway and other means of public transportation) THEN chaos would ensure.. many business have already closed their doors until further notice, and the ones that havent would suffer a lot of absences, this looks like a biblical scene.. about an hour ago and earthquake happened, while it was a short one, it was bad enough to make a significant crack over my appartment wall and fitting enough there was a grasshopper on steroids at my window.. Yesterday i went to the hospital, but in the end i regret it a bit, im ready to beat this thing.. like travis said, iam already microing my family, and even if i lose my main i have setted up a secret expo, if this thing goes out of control ill go back to my hometown, so far we cant do anything except keep living our lives, i dont plan to stop working at all unless i got sick but even then, ill drown myself in teramiflu.. thanks to all the ppl that have wished us the best.. and the ones that keep jumping at the LOL in the op.. well i wont excuse myself but you guys shouldnt be skipping the whole thread.. It´s now a Country thing, it is becoming global and somewhere I´ve seen a google maps with all cases reported Here http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=32.639375,-110.390625&spn=15.738151,25.488281&z=5 | ||
{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Germany18839 Posts
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Gretchen
Germany128 Posts
On April 28 2009 05:43 G.s)NarutO wrote: >_<; 3 possible infected in Bielefeld, Germany. T_T! Where did you get that from? | ||
Catyoul
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As for the treatment, Tamiflu has been proven effective in vitro on this strain, but no clinical studies yet. | ||
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Sexico5880 Posts
On April 28 2009 03:07 teufelina wrote: Besides, it feels like in I am a legend....well..not that much...but streets are not very crowded... and many other wear mmm dont know its name...the thingy u use to cover ur mouth? hehe Surgical masks. The funniest part is that they are all sold out, or some people woud sell them at the equivalent of $0.50 dollars. Im from the same city btw. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Here's what you need to know: Q: How do I protect myself and my family? A: For now, take commonsense precautions. Cover your coughs and sneezes, with a tissue that you throw away or by sneezing into your elbow rather than your hand. Wash hands frequently; if soap and water aren't available, hand gels can substitute. Stay home if you're sick and keep children home from school if they are. Q: How easy is it to catch this virus? A: Scientists don't yet know if it takes fairly close or prolonged contact with someone who's sick, or if it's more easily spread. But in general, flu viruses spread through uncovered coughs and sneezes or — and this is important — by touching your mouth or nose with unwashed hands. Flu viruses can live on surfaces for several hours, like a doorknob just touched by someone who sneezed into his hand. Q: In Mexico, officials are handing out face masks. Do I need one? A: The CDC says there's not good evidence that masks really help outside of health care settings. It's safer just to avoid close contact with someone who's sick and avoid crowded gatherings in places where swine flu is known to be spreading. But if you can't do that, CDC guidelines say it's OK to consider a mask — just don't let it substitute for good precautions. Q: Is swine flu treatable? A: Yes, with the flu drugs Tamiflu or Relenza, but not with two older flu medications. Q: Is there enough? A: Yes. The federal government has stockpiled enough of the drugs to treat 50 million people, and many states have additional stocks. As a precaution, the CDC has shipped a quarter of that supply to the states to keep on hand just in case the virus starts spreading more than it has so far. Q: Should I take Tamiflu as a precaution if I'm not sick yet? A: No. "What are you going to do with it, use it when you get a sniffle?" asks Dr. Marc Siegel of New York University Langone Medical Center and author of "Bird Flu: Everything you Need To Know About The Next Pandemic." Overusing antiviral drugs can help germs become resistant to them. Q: How big is my risk? A: For most people, very low. Outside of Mexico, so far clusters of illnesses seem related to Mexican travel. New York City's cluster, for instance, consists of students and family members at one school where some students came back ill from spring break in Mexico. Q: Why are people dying in Mexico and not here? A: That's a mystery. First, understand that no one really knows just how many people in Mexico are dying of this flu strain, or how many have it. Only a fraction of the suspected deaths have been tested and confirmed as swine flu, and some initially suspected cases were caused by something else. Q: Should I cancel my planned trip to Mexico? A: The U.S. did issue a travel advisory Monday discouraging nonessential travel there. Q: What else is the U.S., or anyone else, doing to try to stop this virus? A: The U.S. is beginning limited screening of travelers from Mexico, so that the obviously sick can be sent for treatment. Other governments have issued their own travel warnings and restrictions. Mexico is taking the biggest steps, closings that limit most crowded gatherings. In the U.S., communities with clusters of illness also may limit contact — New York closed the affected school for a few days, for example — so stay tuned to hear if your area eventually is affected. Q: What are the symptoms? A: They're similar to regular human flu — a fever, cough, sore throat, body aches, headache, chills and fatigue. Some people also have diarrhea and vomiting. Q: How do I know if I should see a doctor? Maybe my symptoms are from something else — like pollen? A: Health authorities say if you live in places where swine flu cases have been confirmed, or you recently traveled to Mexico, and you have flulike symptoms, ask your doctor if you need treatment or to be tested. Allergies won't cause a fever. And run-of-the-mill stomach bugs won't be accompanied by respiratory symptoms, notes Dr. Wayne Reynolds of Newport News, Va., spokesman for the American Academy of Family Physicians. Q: Is there a vaccine to prevent this new infection? A: No. And CDC's initial testing suggests that last winter's flu shot didn't offer any cross-protection. Q: How long would it take to produce a vaccine? A: A few months. The CDC has created what's called "seed stock" of the new virus that manufacturers would need to start production. But the government hasn't yet decided if the outbreak is bad enough to order that. Q: What is swine flu? A: Pigs spread their own strains of influenza and every so often people catch one, usually after contact with the animals. This new strain is a mix of pig viruses with some human and bird viruses. Unlike more typical swine flu, it is spreading person-to-person. A 1976 outbreak of another unusual swine flu at Fort Dix, N.J., prompted a problematic mass vaccination campaign, but that time the flu fizzled out. Q: So is it safe to eat pork? A: Yes. Swine influenza viruses don't spread through food. Q: And whatever happened to bird flu? Wasn't that supposed to be the next pandemic? A: Specialists have long warned that the issue is a never-before-seen strain that people have little if any natural immunity to, regardless of whether it seems to originate from a bird or a pig. Bird flu hasn't gone away; scientists are tracking it, too. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090427/ap_on_he_me/med_healthbeat_swine_flu_q_a | ||
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baal
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Mexico city is one of the top 3 biggest cities in the world, 100 deaths is absolutely nothing for a city with 28 fucking million people. last flu variant epidemy didnt kill over 20k people and the reaction time was much slower than this time, just relax the fuck out. I am from mexico and i dont know of anybody who knows somebody infected, this fucking collective paranoia is annoying as fuck. Also watch out for brutal legislation in the name of "protection" soon, now thats a real danger. | ||
{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
http://www.marcha.com.mx/resumen.php?id=2128 Mexican papers have been linking the swine flu outbreak to massive factory farms owned by Smithfied Corporation for the past 12 days. Biting flies growing on pig feces in overflowing unsanitary waste ponds have been fingered as the vector of interspecies viral mixing. A Mexican village whose inhabitants were overwhelmed by an outbreak of respiratory illness starting in February has emerged as a possible source of the swine flu outbreak which has now spread across the world. The state government of Veracruz in eastern Mexico has confirmed one case of swine flu in the village of La Gloria with the sufferer named locally as a four-year-old boy, Edgar Hernandez Hernandez. The federal government said tonight that he tested positive for the same strain of the virus which has claimed lives in Mexico. Smithfield Foods Inc. said it has not found any signs of swine flu in the company’s hogs or employees at its joint ventures in Mexico. Smithfield said its businesses in Mexico regularly administer flu vaccinations to its hogs and conduct monthly tests for the presence of swine flu. The company, based in Smithfield, Va., said in a news release that it is cooperating with Mexican officials in their investigation of the outbreak and will submit samples from its herds to the University of Mexico for testing. The statement came after Mexico's national public health authority, the Mexican social security institute, raised concerns that waste from the Granjas Carrol facility may be responsible for the outbreak of illness, according to local media. "According to state agents of the Mexican social security institute, the vector of this outbreak are the clouds of flies that come out of the hog barns, and the waste lagoons into which the Mexican-US company spews tons of excrement," reported Mexico City newspaper La Jornada. Swine flu can be caught through contact with infected animals, but it is unclear if contact with flies or excrement has the same effect. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/27/swine-flu-search-outbreak-source | ||
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United States2851 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32046 Posts
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BeJe77
United States377 Posts
It's nice that this simple medicine is able to kill it, hopefully it does not become immune to it otherwise that would suck since it would take months to make a cure....also hope it don't become more deadly :X | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
Q: Should I take Tamiflu as a precaution if I'm not sick yet? A: No. "What are you going to do with it, use it when you get a sniffle?" asks Dr. Marc Siegel of New York University Langone Medical Center and author of "Bird Flu: Everything you Need To Know About The Next Pandemic." Overusing antiviral drugs can help germs become resistant to them. i lol'd | ||
IDWIJNI-
Mexico332 Posts
On April 28 2009 12:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Hmmm. I wonder if the CDC/WHO are investigating this: http://www.marcha.com.mx/resumen.php?id=2128 Show nested quote + A Mexican village whose inhabitants were overwhelmed by an outbreak of respiratory illness starting in February has emerged as a possible source of the swine flu outbreak which has now spread across the world. The state government of Veracruz in eastern Mexico has confirmed one case of swine flu in the village of La Gloria with the sufferer named locally as a four-year-old boy, Edgar Hernandez Hernandez. The federal government said tonight that he tested positive for the same strain of the virus which has claimed lives in Mexico. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/27/swine-flu-search-outbreak-source The kid is ok today after receiving treatment, according to local news. | ||
FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
MEXICO CITY – The swine flu epidemic entered a dangerous new phase Monday as the death toll climbed in Mexico and the number of suspected cases there and in the United States nearly doubled. The World Health Organization raised its alert level but stopped short of declaring a global emergency. The United States advised Americans against most travel to Mexico and ordered stepped up border checks in neighboring states. The European Union health commissioner advised Europeans to avoid nonessential travel both to Mexico and parts of the United States. The virus poses a potentially grave new threat to the U.S. economy, which was showing tentative early signs of a recovery. A widespread outbreak could batter tourism, food and transportation industries, deepening the recession in the U.S. and possibly worldwide. The suspected number of deaths rose to 149 in Mexico, the epicenter of the outbreak with nearly 2,000 people believed to be infected. The number of U.S. cases rose to 48, the result of further testing at a New York City school, although none was fatal. Other U.S. cases have been reported in Ohio, Kansas, Texas and California. Worldwide there were 73 cases, including six in Canada, one in Spain and two in Scotland. While the total cases were still measured in hundreds, not thousands, Mexican Health Secretary Jose Angel Cordova said the epidemic was entering an extremely dangerous phase, with the number of people infected mushrooming even as authorities desperately ramped up defenses. "We are in the most critical moment of the epidemic. The number of cases will keep rising, so we have to reinforce preventative measures," Cordova said at a news conference. The WHO raised the alert level to Phase 4, meaning there is sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus causing outbreaks in at least one country. Its alert system was revised after bird flu in Asia began to spread in 2004, and Monday was the first time it was raised above Phase 3. "At this time, containment is not a feasible option," as the virus has already spread to several other countries, said WHO Assistant Director-General Keiji Fukuda. Putting an alert at Phases 4 or 5 signals that the virus is becoming increasingly adept at spreading among humans. That move could lead governments to set trade, travel and other restrictions aimed at limiting its spread. Phase 6 is for a full-blown pandemic, characterized by outbreaks in at least two regions of the world. It could take 4-6 months before the first batch of vaccines are available to fight the virus, WHO officials said. Russia, Hong Kong and Taiwan said they would quarantine visitors showing symptoms of the virus amid global fears of a pandemic, an epidemic spread over a large area, either a region or worldwide. President Barack Obama said the outbreak was reason for concern, but not yet "a cause for alarm." Dr. Richard Besser, acting director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said that so far the virus in the United States seems less severe than in Mexico. Only one person has been hospitalized in the U.S. "I wouldn't be overly reassured by that," Besser told reporters at CDC headquarters in Atlanta, raising the possibility of more severe cases in the United States. "We are taking it seriously and acting aggressively," Besser said. "Until the outbreak has progressed, you really don't know what it's going to do." U.S. customs officials began checking people entering U.S. territory. Millions of doses of flu-fighting medications from a federal stockpile were on their way to states, with priority given to the five already affected and to border states. Federal agencies were conferring with state and international governments. "We want to make sure that we have equipment where it needs to be, people where they need to be and, most important, information shared at all levels," said Janet Napolitano, head of the Homeland Security Department. "We are proceeding as if we are preparatory to a full pandemic," Napolitano said. She said travel warnings for trips to Mexico would remain in place as long as swine flu is detected. Mexico canceled school at all levels nationwide until May 6, and the Mexico City government said it was considering a complete shutdown, including all public transportation, if the death toll keeps rising. Labor Secretary Javier Lozano Alarcon said employers should isolate anyone showing up for work with fever, cough, sore throat or other signs of the flu. Even some of Mexico's most treasured national holidays were affected by the swine flu alert. Authorities announced Monday the cancellation of the annual Cinco de Mayo parade, in which people in period costumes celebrate Mexican troops' defeat of a French army on May 5, 1862. The national labor umbrella group announced the cancellation of Mexico City's traditional May 1 parade and the National Institute of Anthropology and History said all of its 116 museums nationwide would be closed until further notice. Amid the warnings, the Mexican government grappled with increasing criticism of its response. At least two weeks after the first swine flu case, the government has yet to say where and how the outbreak began or give details on the victims. The health department lacked the staff to visit the homes of all those suspected to have died from the disease, Cordova said. Cordova said 1,995 people have been hospitalized with serious cases of pneumonia since the first case of swine flu was reported April 13. The government does not yet know how many were swine flu. He said tests show a 4-year-old boy contracted the virus before April 2 in Veracruz state, where a community has been protesting pollution from a large pig farm. The farm is run by Granjas Carroll de Mexico, a joint venture half owned by Virginia-based Smithfield Foods, Inc. Spokeswoman Keira Ullrich said the company has found no clinical signs or symptoms of the presence of swine flu in its herd or its employees working anywhere in Mexico. Mexico's Agriculture Department said Monday that its inspectors found no sign of swine flu among pigs around the farm in Veracruz, and that no infected pigs have been found yet anywhere in Mexico. As if the country did not have enough to deal with, Cordova's comments were briefly interrupted by a 5.6-magnitude earthquake in southern Mexico that rattled already jittery nerves and sent mask-wearing office workers into the streets of the capital. Aside from the confirmed cases, 13 are suspected in New Zealand, and one is suspected in both France and Israel. European Union Health Commissioner Androulla Vassiliou advised Europeans to avoid nonessential travel to Mexico and parts of the United States, although Besser said that including the U.S. in the advisory seemed unwarranted at this time. State Department spokesman Robert A. Wood said Vassiliou's remarks were his "personal opinion," not an official EU position, and therefore the department had no comment. "We don't want people to panic at this point," Wood said. The U.S. stepped up checks of people entering the country by air, land and sea, and the State Department warned U.S. citizens to avoid nonessential travel to Mexico. It said those who live in Mexico should avoid hospitals or clinics there unless they have a medical emergency. The best way to keep the disease from spreading, Besser said, is by taking everyday precautions such as frequent handwashing, covering up coughs and sneezes, and staying away from work or school if not feeling well. He said authorities are not recommending that people wear masks at work because evidence that it is effective "is not that strong." Besser said about 11 million doses of flu-fighting drugs from a federal stockpile have been sent to states in case they are needed. That's roughly one quarter of the doses in the stockpile, he said. There is no vaccine available to prevent the specific strain now being seen, he said, but some antiflu drugs do work once someone is sick. If a new vaccine eventually is ordered, the CDC already has taken a key preliminary step — creating what's called seed stock of the virus that manufacturers would use. Many of the cases outside Mexico have been relatively mild. Symptoms include a fever of more than 100, coughing, joint aches, severe headache and, in some cases, vomiting and diarrhea. European and U.S. markets bounced back from early losses as pharmaceutical stocks were lifted by expectations that health authorities will increase stockpiles of anti-viral drugs. Stocks of airlines, hotels and other travel-related companies posted sharper losses. WHO spokesman Peter Cordingley singled out air travel as an easy way the virus could spread, noting that the WHO estimates that up to 500,000 people are on planes at any time. Governments in Asia — with potent memories of previous flu outbreaks — were especially cautious. Singapore, Thailand, Japan, Indonesia and the Philippines dusted off thermal scanners used in the 2003 SARS crisis and were checking for signs of fever among passengers from North America. South Korea, India and Indonesia also announced screening. In Malaysia, health workers in face masks took the temperatures of passengers as they arrived on a flight from Los Angeles. China said anyone experiencing flu-like symptoms within two weeks of arrival had to report to authorities. China, Russia and Ukraine were among countries banning imports of pork and pork products from Mexico and three U.S. states that have reported swine flu cases, while other countries, such as Indonesia, banned all pork imports. The CDC says people cannot get the flu by eating pork or pork products. Germany's leading vacation tour operators were skipping stops in Mexico City as a precaution. The Hannover-based TUI said trips through May 4 to Mexico City were being suspended, including those operated by TUI itself and through companies 1-2 Fly, Airtours, Berge & Meer, Grebeco and L'tur. Japan's largest tour agency, JTB Corp., suspended tours to Mexico through June 30. Russian travel agencies said about a third of those planning to travel to Mexico in early May had already canceled I think this is one of the most thorought write-ups for people that haven't quite heard of this yet. | ||
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Korea (South)3851 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On April 28 2009 07:06 Gretchen wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2009 05:43 G.s)NarutO wrote: >_<; 3 possible infected in Bielefeld, Germany. T_T! Where did you get that from? The news, it was false alarm though. | ||
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baal
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On April 28 2009 16:03 Empyrean wrote: Does anyone know how the situation in Cancun is? No infections whatsoever, Cancun is very very far from the infection focus (mexico city), but there is no school nation wide, dont know if they shut down the clubs tho, but all this wont last long. | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On April 28 2009 14:25 randomKo_Orean wrote: nice, 13 cases confirmed in San Diego. I live right next to Mexican border =_= Better off than living in South west texas. ![]() | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On April 28 2009 13:00 HeavOnEarth wrote: Show nested quote + Q: Should I take Tamiflu as a precaution if I'm not sick yet? A: No. "What are you going to do with it, use it when you get a sniffle?" asks Dr. Marc Siegel of New York University Langone Medical Center and author of "Bird Flu: Everything you Need To Know About The Next Pandemic." Overusing antiviral drugs can help germs become resistant to them. i lol'd Anyone else have their virus develop a resistance/mutate into a different strain to antiviral drugs?XD | ||
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Empyrean
16974 Posts
On April 28 2009 16:07 baal wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2009 16:03 Empyrean wrote: Does anyone know how the situation in Cancun is? No infections whatsoever, Cancun is very very far from the infection focus (mexico city), but there is no school nation wide, dont know if they shut down the clubs tho, but all this wont last long. Coolio, I remember something about the Mexican government saying something about closing every night life type place? Maybe that's only for Mexico City. Still, it's a pretty terrifying prospect. | ||
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zatic
Zurich15325 Posts
On a side note I love how regarding end of the world scenarios everyone seems to have this fantasy of stacking up huge amounts of canned food and small arms and ammunition but somehow expects drinkable water coming from the tab. | ||
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France2377 Posts
Russia officially stopped its importations of Mexican pigs. They were at a huge 0 kg per year before that. :D | ||
mahnini
United States6862 Posts
On April 28 2009 16:15 HeavOnEarth wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2009 13:00 HeavOnEarth wrote: Q: Should I take Tamiflu as a precaution if I'm not sick yet? A: No. "What are you going to do with it, use it when you get a sniffle?" asks Dr. Marc Siegel of New York University Langone Medical Center and author of "Bird Flu: Everything you Need To Know About The Next Pandemic." Overusing antiviral drugs can help germs become resistant to them. i lol'd Anyone else have their virus develop a resistance/mutate into a different strain to antiviral drugs?XD what the fuck are you talking about ? | ||
baal
10535 Posts
On April 28 2009 16:18 Empyrean wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2009 16:07 baal wrote: On April 28 2009 16:03 Empyrean wrote: Does anyone know how the situation in Cancun is? No infections whatsoever, Cancun is very very far from the infection focus (mexico city), but there is no school nation wide, dont know if they shut down the clubs tho, but all this wont last long. Coolio, I remember something about the Mexican government saying something about closing every night life type place? Maybe that's only for Mexico City. Still, it's a pretty terrifying prospect. i am not sure about the measures in Cancun, its unlikely they did, if its urgen you can PM me and i can find out. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28624 Posts
On April 28 2009 16:25 zatic wrote: Yo guys this is just SARS2: Good way to get people's minds off a global recession that will hurt each one individually 100x more than a couple of dead pigs somewhere. On a side note I love how regarding end of the world scenarios everyone seems to have this fantasy of stacking up huge amounts of canned food and small arms and ammunition but somehow expects drinkable water coming from the tab. ohplz everyone knows you just have to distill the tap water way to fail zombie survival | ||
yooh
China223 Posts
im scared im scared im scared im in canada and hteres all these warnings and quarantine and oasdfboebffbsbs i dont wanna dieeeeee | ||
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United States2296 Posts
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United States1316 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On April 28 2009 20:08 mahnini wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2009 16:15 HeavOnEarth wrote: On April 28 2009 13:00 HeavOnEarth wrote: Q: Should I take Tamiflu as a precaution if I'm not sick yet? A: No. "What are you going to do with it, use it when you get a sniffle?" asks Dr. Marc Siegel of New York University Langone Medical Center and author of "Bird Flu: Everything you Need To Know About The Next Pandemic." Overusing antiviral drugs can help germs become resistant to them. i lol'd Anyone else have their virus develop a resistance/mutate into a different strain to antiviral drugs?XD what the fuck are you talking about ? pandemic II ;_; | ||
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zXk3
Mexico1178 Posts
On April 29 2009 01:56 bdams19 wrote: over 50 cases in nyc... get this shit out of here! stop fuckin up mexico! we just builded waterparks! on a serious note, i REALLY hope you are just joking | ||
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
On April 29 2009 01:56 bdams19 wrote: over 50 cases in nyc... get this shit out of here! stop fuckin up mexico! we'll fuck you up as much as we can! hahaha | ||
Railz
United States1449 Posts
On April 28 2009 16:25 zatic wrote: Yo guys this is just SARS2: Good way to get people's minds off a global recession that will hurt each one individually 100x more than a couple of dead pigs somewhere. On a side note I love how regarding end of the world scenarios everyone seems to have this fantasy of stacking up huge amounts of canned food and small arms and ammunition but somehow expects drinkable water coming from the tab. Hum. No. They had to close a school here in NY a county over because 50 kids got infected, and I don't know if you ever had the flu, it can be fatal, 95% of the time it won't be, but it'll hurt the economy if a couple thousand workers in a town have to stay at home for work. And generally people who stock up on food, get bottled water so your cynicism is oddly placed. Also if people AREN'T informed about an outbreak you get something like AIDS that devastates a whole continent or something like in 1918. It is better to overreact then not at all. No one is getting hurt right now unless you're in Mexico City. | ||
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Unforgiven_ve
Venezuela1232 Posts
i dont know if there are any infected zombies | ||
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United States41117 Posts
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United States4146 Posts
On April 28 2009 16:25 zatic wrote: On a side note I love how regarding end of the world scenarios everyone seems to have this fantasy of stacking up huge amounts of canned food and small arms and ammunition but somehow expects drinkable water coming from the tab. ever heard of rain collectors? no, then this: http://www.air2water.net/residential_products_countertop.html + solar panels & the guns ; ) - | ||
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United States4146 Posts
On April 28 2009 15:34 Physician wrote: - almost zero mortality outside of MEXICO so far, new MEXICAN cases less severe; good : ) bugs that lose their bite are always rewarded, welcome to ur new host species.. | ||
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zatic
Zurich15325 Posts
On April 29 2009 03:42 Railz wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2009 16:25 zatic wrote: Yo guys this is just SARS2: Good way to get people's minds off a global recession that will hurt each one individually 100x more than a couple of dead pigs somewhere. On a side note I love how regarding end of the world scenarios everyone seems to have this fantasy of stacking up huge amounts of canned food and small arms and ammunition but somehow expects drinkable water coming from the tab. Hum. No. They had to close a school here in NY a county over because 50 kids got infected, and I don't know if you ever had the flu, it can be fatal, 95% of the time it won't be, but it'll hurt the economy if a couple thousand workers in a town have to stay at home for work. And generally people who stock up on food, get bottled water so your cynicism is oddly placed. Also if people AREN'T informed about an outbreak you get something like AIDS that devastates a whole continent or something like in 1918. It is better to overreact then not at all. No one is getting hurt right now unless you're in Mexico City. OMG a school got closed? In Germany alone 5000-15000 people die each year from the "regular" flu. Nobody cares. Still as soon as a pig/bird/sars whatever flu emerges everything goes into crisis lockdown, and in the end nothing happens but maybe 5 dead that would have died from any form of flu anyway. Just telling you: It's all one giant scare scheme. And great that sensible people think of getting bottled water. My point is that should pretty much be your only concern, way way way more important than canned food or a stockpile of guns. Which is what is always mentioned first. | ||
MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On April 28 2009 16:25 zatic wrote: On a side note I love how regarding end of the world scenarios everyone seems to have this fantasy of stacking up huge amounts of canned food and small arms and ammunition but somehow expects drinkable water coming from the tab. Strawman much? No one expects that. It's not like the knowledge of how to purify water is that esoteric. | ||
toopham
United States551 Posts
FML. good thing I'm leaving SD in 1.5 months. Let's hope i can survive until then. | ||
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AltaiR_
Korea (South)922 Posts
what will piss me off is if obama will pay millions to deploy vaccines around us and waste more money we dont have | ||
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zatic
Zurich15325 Posts
On April 29 2009 16:28 MamiyaOtaru wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2009 16:25 zatic wrote: On a side note I love how regarding end of the world scenarios everyone seems to have this fantasy of stacking up huge amounts of canned food and small arms and ammunition but somehow expects drinkable water coming from the tab. Strawman much? No one expects that. It's not like the knowledge of how to purify water is that esoteric. Yet you need water to start with. Just saying that every kid knows you can survive weeks without food but only days without water. Yet in every end of the world scenario people start stacking up on guns and canned food without even mentioning water supply. If you assume water will still be coming from the tab why don't you just assume you will still be able to call pizza delivery. SoCal is what, 50 mio people living in an urbanized desert. Once the zombies start roaming everyone will just die of thirst before you will even open your first can of beans. | ||
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10535 Posts
On April 29 2009 16:48 AltaiR_ wrote: cases in mexico have already ceased, most likely the maximum amount of deaths from this swine flu will be 50. what will piss me off is if obama will pay millions to deploy vaccines around us and waste more money we dont have in 1978 the last swine flue epidemy, the government went crazy and handled vaccines.... the swine flu killed 1 citizen,,,, 25 died from vaccines. please people DO NOT TAKE VACCINES FOR THE SWINE FLU | ||
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United States42429 Posts
On April 29 2009 18:06 baal wrote: Show nested quote + On April 29 2009 16:48 AltaiR_ wrote: cases in mexico have already ceased, most likely the maximum amount of deaths from this swine flu will be 50. what will piss me off is if obama will pay millions to deploy vaccines around us and waste more money we dont have in 1978 the last swine flue epidemy, the government went crazy and handled vaccines.... the swine flu killed 1 citizen,,,, 25 died from vaccines. please people DO NOT TAKE VACCINES FOR THE SWINE FLU Or you could hope that the government learned their lesson and is going to be more rational. Also that year thousands more people died from regular flu because the vaccines for that which they'd normally have recieved weren't made because of supply limitations. It's logical for healthcare workers in infected areas to be vaccinated though, simply to stop the spread of it. | ||
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Australia4813 Posts
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NovaTheFeared
United States7222 Posts
First confirmed U.S. death from H1N1, a baby in Texas. | ||
baal
10535 Posts
On April 29 2009 20:12 Kwark wrote: Show nested quote + On April 29 2009 18:06 baal wrote: On April 29 2009 16:48 AltaiR_ wrote: cases in mexico have already ceased, most likely the maximum amount of deaths from this swine flu will be 50. what will piss me off is if obama will pay millions to deploy vaccines around us and waste more money we dont have in 1978 the last swine flue epidemy, the government went crazy and handled vaccines.... the swine flu killed 1 citizen,,,, 25 died from vaccines. please people DO NOT TAKE VACCINES FOR THE SWINE FLU Or you could hope that the government learned their lesson and is going to be more rational. Also that year thousands more people died from regular flu because the vaccines for that which they'd normally have recieved weren't made because of supply limitations. It's logical for healthcare workers in infected areas to be vaccinated though, simply to stop the spread of it. A post from liquidpoker: A friend of mine who's an ER nurse posted this on another forum, might be helpful information to some of you. The H1N1 flu will probably be most like a regular flu for most people who end up with it. Nobody around here has died from it...granted there have only been 3 cases in Ohio that I know of. When we test for flu, we test for Flu A and Flu B. Only flu A is then sent to the CDC for confirmation of swine flu. Flu B is regular flu. We test for flu by swabbing the back of the nostril with a skinny Q tip like swab. Uncomfortable, but not a big deal. For most people, the swine flu will not be a big deal. Just stay home and take care of yourself. They are all freaked out about it because they seem to feel it is more contagious than regular flu, although this seems like dodgy thinking. All flu is contagious. For most people in their regular everyday lives, your chance of exposure is limited. For those of us in the healthcare field, the chance of exposure is huge...especially for those of us who work in the emergency department. This is why they are suddenly forming committees to talk about mandatory vaccinations. This was already employed by some hospitals last fall. Now it looks like it may become a more widespread policy. This is a real concern for anyone employed in the healthcare field, especially for those of us who are extremely opposed to mandated vaccines. I fall into that category and am therefore extremely concerned about this whole swine flu hoopla. It directly impacts me since I work 4-5 nights a week in 2 different emergency rooms...both of which now have confirmed cases of swine flu. Both hospitals are now engaging in conversations regarding mandatory vaccines. Certainly, there HAVE been influenza pandemics in the past...way before the invention of the nasty vaccines. Pandemics have been a part of our history since we started organizing our societies into urban areas. I'm sure back in the hunter gatherer time frame there was no such thing. Anywhere where there are large groups of people gathered, and especially when those people are fat, lazy and sickly with no body resources to fight off even the common cold, there will be the risk of pandemics. They HAVE occured in the past and they will continue to occur in the future despite so called vaccines or our disgusting modern health care system. We don't need governments to create illnesses. We as a society are not the healthiest of animals. We eat our way into obesity and disease. We're lazy and lack the interest of intelligence to take care of ourselves. This is the perfect avenue for devastating pandemics to set in. The germs are out there...they just need a host to take hold. Most people make great hosts since they're full of processed crap food, take health destroying pharmaceuticals, do not exercise, do not consume anything even remotely health supporting and have poor elimination. Sounds like a great host for a virus to me! Swine flu, like any flu CAN lead to death. This occurs usually through respiratory complication and also from dehydration secondary to vomiting and diarrhea which wacks out our electrolytes. Certainly, people die from flu complications every year. Many more die from all sorts of other stuff. All comes down to how you care for your body. If you take care of it, you become very resistant to illness. If you do not take care of it, and wreck your body you suddenly have a personal housing crisis. We here at TBDE are much better informed and are actively taking control of our health. We know how to support our bodies with the best nutrition available on the planet. We know how to detoxify. We know how to stay hydrated with the best water ever. We know we need to exercise our bodies for optimal health. We know how to support our immune systems. We have all the tools we need to be at our very best! We do not make good hosts for viruses and other debilitating disease. We do not suffer from poor digestion and poor elimination. We don't take nasty pharmaceuticals. We stay away from doctors and hospitals (HA! Unless we work in them...). We are not afraid of the life giving sunshine. We are at low risk of catching swine flu. If we all just keep doing what we're already doing, we should be immune to all disease, including swine flu! Also, when we asked her if she would be willing to leave her job if they would force her to get a vaccine, this is what she replied: Yes, I would leave my job over the vaccine issue. I also was in the military back in the 70's and also received a major busload of injections. I remember being sick afterwards. Easy to remember that because I am typically never sick. I've been a lifetime vegetarian and have never really been plagued by illness so becoming ill after receiving those injections made it easy to connect the dots. I'm better informed now and I am super duper healthy. I KNOW what's in those vaccines now and absolutely WILL NOT line up with the rest of the sheeple to get jabbed with that cocktail of poison again. I will not leave as a first option, instead trying religious freedom or whatever else I think might work but WILL leave before allowing my body to be injected with those nasty vaccines. Although I have been an ER nurse for almost 27 years, I have not worked just at THAT hospital my whole career. Nurses are highly sought after in every health care setting and I can have a new job in the blink of an eye elsewhere. It waits to be seen how this flu shakes out with the historic Spanish flu. Although Mike Adams is convinced that this is a man made flu outbreak, I am just going to wait and see. Influenza and pandemics in general have been around since way before they knew how to create diseases and vaccines. I don't think you're at much risk for getting it and probably don't need to be too concerned over it, as you mentioned. Pretty much only those of us who work in hospitals every day need to have any real measure of concern. Our exposure level is a thousand times greater than the average person. Just add it to the list of things we are already exposed to every day... RawUniverse-they don't need to create a new illness to damage our bodies. They've been at it for a long time. Have a look through the factory farms and on any isle in the grocery store. Have a walk down the corridor of any hospital unit or drop by and sit in any ER waiting room for a little while. You'll see what I mean. We are already a nation filled with obese, sickly, ignorant, arrogant people. We already "work" directly for their benefit. Who do you think financially supports all the doctors, pharmaceutical companies, cancer centers, heart centers, the whole diabetes racket and so forth? We eat food that isn't even food, drink contaminated water, blindly swallow huge numbers of medications just because the doctor told us to, keep our lazy backsides on the sofa in front of the TV, believe everything talked about in the media, fill our minds with useless information (like sports, hollywood junk and so forth). We are already a nation of "stupid morons that work for their benefit". Keep yourself OUT of that gene pool! Take care of your body mind and soul. If people took care of themselves like we here at TBDE they would not succumb to that fate. So this veteran ER nurse is willing to quit before taking the vaccine... that might give u an idea. | ||
warding
Portugal2394 Posts
At one point she says "All comes down to how you care for your body. If you take care of it, you become very resistant to illness. If you do not take care of it, and wreck your body you suddenly have a personal housing crisis." I read that this flu attacks people with stronger immune systems as it causes an autoimmune reaction, in that case what she is saying is wrong.. no? | ||
ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On April 29 2009 22:31 warding wrote: That is one misanthropic nurse. wow. At one point she says "All comes down to how you care for your body. If you take care of it, you become very resistant to illness. If you do not take care of it, and wreck your body you suddenly have a personal housing crisis." I read that this flu attacks people with stronger immune systems as it causes an autoimmune reaction, in that case what she is saying is wrong.. no? There are reports of the virus causing Cytokine Storm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm In laymans terms it means that your immune system is so strong that the process of fighting off the virus gets so intense that it also kills you off. It is believed that cytokine storms were responsible for many of the deaths during the 1918 influenza pandemic, which killed a disproportionate number of young adults.[1] In this case, a healthy immune system may have been a liability rather than an asset. Preliminary research results from Hong Kong also indicated this as the probable reason for many deaths during the SARS epidemic in 2003.[4] Human deaths from the bird flu H5N1 usually involve cytokine storms as well.[5] Recent reports of high mortality among healthy young adults in the 2009 swine flu outbreak point to cytokine storms as being responsible for these deaths.[6] | ||
oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
it sounds like she's posting on a crackpot forum, maybe that's why | ||
jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
On April 29 2009 20:21 JohnColtrane wrote: has this hit australia yet? :S is it likely to hit australia? I think there are suspected cases in Australia, and it's already hit New Zealand so I would say probably yes. | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
On April 29 2009 23:07 jello_biafra wrote: Show nested quote + On April 29 2009 20:21 JohnColtrane wrote: has this hit australia yet? :S is it likely to hit australia? I think there are suspected cases in Australia, and it's already hit New Zealand so I would say probably yes. is that yes to its hit australia, or yes its likely to hit australia? | ||
FaCE_1
Canada6166 Posts
On April 29 2009 23:12 JohnColtrane wrote: Show nested quote + On April 29 2009 23:07 jello_biafra wrote: On April 29 2009 20:21 JohnColtrane wrote: has this hit australia yet? :S is it likely to hit australia? I think there are suspected cases in Australia, and it's already hit New Zealand so I would say probably yes. is that yes to its hit australia, or yes its likely to hit australia? Yes, there is at least 1 case found in australia.. but just 1. Probably a mexican that swim to your country. | ||
JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
im going to hide inside my house until all this blows over. | ||
littlechava
United States7218 Posts
...WTF? | ||
JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
but what are those other deaths attributable then, if not to swine flu? assuming there was actually those 100+ deaths | ||
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Germany649 Posts
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NovaTheFeared
United States7222 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15325 Posts
On April 28 2009 16:25 zatic wrote: Yo guys this is just SARS2: Good way to get people's minds off a global recession that will hurt each one individually 100x more than a couple of dead pigs somewhere. Dun dun dun. | ||
XoXiDe
United States620 Posts
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PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
Just in the capital 4 pneumology residents died with confirmation of having the swine flu, the government hasnt said anything about it obviously... | ||
Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On April 29 2009 23:58 NovaTheFeared wrote: The WHO number is a lagging indicator because lab confirmation takes time. The number of deaths and illnesses attributed to the disease is always going to be greater than the current official lab-confirmed number. In a city like Mexico DF a lot of deaths will happen everyday. During a panic like this one, a lot of deaths will be misattributed to swine flu without any lab confirmation. That´s what probably happened. Of course international organizations and our governments should prepare for a pandemic nonetheless, but I think the probability that this virus will cause one is quite low. | ||
ReTr0[p.S]
Argentina1590 Posts
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yooh
China223 Posts
My friend told me these things so I just thought maybe it'll give bring relief for yooh guys cus I'm still scared as hell ![]() | ||
LaLuSh
Sweden2358 Posts
On April 30 2009 05:32 yooh wrote: I kno I said that I'm realyyyyyyyy scared about this whole thing cus it just hit Ontario, but why are yooh guys so worried? People have already survived it so it's not exactly gonna be a "pandemic". ANDDD isn't it better to just get it and survive it so yooh don't hafto worry anymore?? My friend told me these things so I just thought maybe it'll give bring relief for yooh guys cus I'm still scared as hell ![]() Doesn't have to kill to be called a pandemic. But based on your spelling I can't say I really expected you to have a clue about the definition of pandemic. | ||
Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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suffeli
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Finland772 Posts
h1n1 live map There seems to be a lot open questions on this virus. Washing your hands frequently and not fondling any sexy mexicans would be a good idea. Those face masks won't help much(although they can help you when someone is sneezing near you) so buying them is a waste of money. I would use common sense and not to panic (yet). | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32046 Posts
On April 29 2009 22:53 oneofthem wrote: that's how the flu usually works. it is irresponsible for an er nurse to not take vaccination. i don't know what she's thinking it sounds like she's posting on a crackpot forum, maybe that's why Hey, maybe she got sick because it's a dying, dumbed down version of the real thing so her body can get immunity, but what the fuck do I know? Dipshits like that shouldn't have jobs. | ||
BreaK
Canada890 Posts
Oh, she went down for work related stuff. When she came back she felt sick, but thought it was just a cold or something. Then it got worse and now she's at the hospital. She was feeling better today, but it's pretty scary. | ||
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
On April 30 2009 12:30 BreaK wrote: I just found that my mom is one of the possible confirmed cases in Canada (Ontario). She just got back from Mexico around last friday. She gets her test results back in the next couple days. Oh, she went down for work related stuff. When she came back she felt sick, but thought it was just a cold or something. Then it got worse and now she's at the hospital. She was feeling better today, but it's pretty scary. !!! Oh man... | ||
ShloobeR
Korea (South)3809 Posts
On April 30 2009 07:25 suffeli wrote: This map seems to be accurate if you wanna follow the outbreak. We got already one suspected patient in Finland. h1n1 live map There seems to be a lot open questions on this virus. Washing your hands frequently and not fondling any sexy mexicans would be a good idea. Those face masks won't help much(although they can help you when someone is sneezing near you) so buying them is a waste of money. I would use common sense and not to panic (yet). Wow could this map blow this out of proportion any more? there is one 'suspected' case in Europe with over 300 'probable' cases. they need to define what 'probable' means because for now it just seems like 'being tested' is being marked as 'probable' | ||
MaZza[KIS]
Australia2110 Posts
On April 30 2009 01:37 Maenander wrote: Show nested quote + On April 29 2009 23:58 NovaTheFeared wrote: The WHO number is a lagging indicator because lab confirmation takes time. The number of deaths and illnesses attributed to the disease is always going to be greater than the current official lab-confirmed number. In a city like Mexico DF a lot of deaths will happen everyday. During a panic like this one, a lot of deaths will be misattributed to swine flu without any lab confirmation. That´s what probably happened. Of course international organizations and our governments should prepare for a pandemic nonetheless, but I think the probability that this virus will cause one is quite low. and you say this using what scientific model? A friend of mine (quite coincidentally) is doing a masters and he chose to do his modelling component on influenza. As the model is just finished (and has been confirmed by inputting other data with known measured results) he put the swine flu data thorough his model. Using a population size of 100,000 it took 8 people to start the epidemic. In just under 25 days approx 60-70% (cant remember the exact number) of the population was infected and in the end (as the curve drops off and people develop immunity, get treated, etc. etc.) 700 ended up dead. That's 700 out of 100,000 population. Now, the scary thing is that he didn't include mutation or re-infection in his model. Basically, his "best case" scenario model (just get sick, develop immunity/get treated, live/die) predicts 700 deaths for a 100,000 population. Imagine the problem compounded with todays urbanised societies/ Scientifically, yes, we are f*cked if this thing spreads... and it's going to spread QUICK unless appropriate containment measures are put in place. Hence why the panic from WHO. Why is this flu so bad? Because it's infectivity rate is so efficient (very low probability of being immune and good infection mechanism)... compound that with the population density of places like Mexico and New York; add in air travel and you've got a pandemic. I'm not saying to flip the script, but you should definitely be concerned... cover your mouth when you cough and/or sneeze and wash your hands thoroughly. With a little bit of care this thing won't spread and we'll be OK. We'll probably be ok anyways, but I'm sure you don't want to be in the dead statistic.... The last thing I'd worry about are conspiracy theories about the state of the economy. They could have just as easily had Michael Jackson rape another kid. | ||
TT1
Canada9997 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On April 29 2009 17:55 zatic wrote: Show nested quote + On April 29 2009 16:28 MamiyaOtaru wrote: On April 28 2009 16:25 zatic wrote: On a side note I love how regarding end of the world scenarios everyone seems to have this fantasy of stacking up huge amounts of canned food and small arms and ammunition but somehow expects drinkable water coming from the tab. Strawman much? No one expects that. It's not like the knowledge of how to purify water is that esoteric. Yet you need water to start with. Just saying that every kid knows you can survive weeks without food but only days without water. Yet in every end of the world scenario people start stacking up on guns and canned food without even mentioning water supply. If you assume water will still be coming from the tab why don't you just assume you will still be able to call pizza delivery. SoCal is what, 50 mio people living in an urbanized desert. Once the zombies start roaming everyone will just die of thirst before you will even open your first can of beans. you could have like.. 500 buckets/pots/pans lying around collecting rainwater! ^^ | ||
MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On April 29 2009 17:55 zatic wrote: Show nested quote + On April 29 2009 16:28 MamiyaOtaru wrote: On April 28 2009 16:25 zatic wrote: On a side note I love how regarding end of the world scenarios everyone seems to have this fantasy of stacking up huge amounts of canned food and small arms and ammunition but somehow expects drinkable water coming from the tab. Strawman much? No one expects that. It's not like the knowledge of how to purify water is that esoteric. Yet you need water to start with. SoCal is what, 50 mio people living in an urbanized desert. Good point. SoCal is fucked. While Wyoming is relatively dry, there are rivers everywhere so I sort of didn't think about the masses of people living where people shouldn't live since I'm in a low population area with plenty of water. Even so, there are people who actually stock up on loads of slightly bleached water (that keeps for a good amount of time). I'm one, despite said proximity of a river. Won't last long, but can get me through a few days until other arrangements can be made, or the tap comes back on (in the event of a less than end of the world level disaster) So you make a good point: there probably are people who aren't thinking of water (esp in dry areas) and maybe should be. | ||
Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15325 Posts
On April 30 2009 17:30 Masamune wrote: can a mod seriously fix the title to sound more gramatically correct and more familiar to the english language. I realize i am fucking hammered right now, but every time i read thte title "epidemy at mexico" i hear it in the taco bell chihuahua voice. Why not "Swine Flu Epidemic" or Epidemic in Mexico"? Sure thing, done. | ||
StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
A global pandemic is likely. However the actual disease seems pretty mild and the chances of dying are low, specially if you're medicated. This is not the 17th century, we have medications and precautions. I'm not too worried. | ||
Kennelie
United States2296 Posts
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_outbreak | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On May 01 2009 00:40 VIB wrote: It already have a page in wikipedia detailing everything, this is so cool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_outbreak this people dying is so so cool! -cheers- ![]() | ||
Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On April 30 2009 12:48 MaZza[KIS] wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2009 01:37 Maenander wrote: On April 29 2009 23:58 NovaTheFeared wrote: The WHO number is a lagging indicator because lab confirmation takes time. The number of deaths and illnesses attributed to the disease is always going to be greater than the current official lab-confirmed number. In a city like Mexico DF a lot of deaths will happen everyday. During a panic like this one, a lot of deaths will be misattributed to swine flu without any lab confirmation. That´s what probably happened. Of course international organizations and our governments should prepare for a pandemic nonetheless, but I think the probability that this virus will cause one is quite low. and you say this using what scientific model? A friend of mine (quite coincidentally) is doing a masters and he chose to do his modelling component on influenza. As the model is just finished (and has been confirmed by inputting other data with known measured results) he put the swine flu data thorough his model. Using a population size of 100,000 it took 8 people to start the epidemic. In just under 25 days approx 60-70% (cant remember the exact number) of the population was infected and in the end (as the curve drops off and people develop immunity, get treated, etc. etc.) 700 ended up dead. That's 700 out of 100,000 population. Now, the scary thing is that he didn't include mutation or re-infection in his model. Basically, his "best case" scenario model (just get sick, develop immunity/get treated, live/die) predicts 700 deaths for a 100,000 population. Imagine the problem compounded with todays urbanised societies/ Scientifically, yes, we are f*cked if this thing spreads... and it's going to spread QUICK unless appropriate containment measures are put in place. Hence why the panic from WHO. Why is this flu so bad? Because it's infectivity rate is so efficient (very low probability of being immune and good infection mechanism)... compound that with the population density of places like Mexico and New York; add in air travel and you've got a pandemic. I'm not saying to flip the script, but you should definitely be concerned... cover your mouth when you cough and/or sneeze and wash your hands thoroughly. With a little bit of care this thing won't spread and we'll be OK. We'll probably be ok anyways, but I'm sure you don't want to be in the dead statistic.... The last thing I'd worry about are conspiracy theories about the state of the economy. They could have just as easily had Michael Jackson rape another kid. Ok I got this wrong, of course this one can get a pandemic just like the normal flu does every year. But where did your friend get any numbers, while there are no reliable numbers out there??? I doubt his numbers, a toy model with insufficient input data won´t cut it. I doubt the mexican government could hide 20000 dead people in MexicoDF. At this point we would arrive next week at the latest according to his model, because the sample size of 8 was probably reached already about 2 weeks ago (unknown cases). There is no indication that this virus is more dangerous than normal flu yet (1 of 1000 infected dies). I am not against protective measures though, I never was. | ||
Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
On May 01 2009 15:46 Maenander wrote: I doubt the mexican government could hide 20000 dead people in MexicoDF. you never know haha | ||
Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
On April 30 2009 18:42 zatic wrote: Show nested quote + On April 30 2009 17:30 Masamune wrote: can a mod seriously fix the title to sound more gramatically correct and more familiar to the english language. I realize i am fucking hammered right now, but every time i read thte title "epidemy at mexico" i hear it in the taco bell chihuahua voice. Why not "Swine Flu Epidemic" or Epidemic in Mexico"? Sure thing, done. rofl "Epidemy with Mexico", it's painful to read. | ||
BookTwo
1985 Posts
You ALL need to read this before thinking another thing. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/04/29/Swine-Flu.aspx ------------------- Now you see? Less than 10 people have DIED as a DIRECT result of the virus. 3,500 people die A DAY from malaria ALONE. Why aren't we labeling that an epidemic? Because there aren't any vaccines that can be make which will make people very, very rich. I'm talking billions here. You'll probably notice that it is my first post. Yes it is. I found the level of awareness on this matter very disturbing. Basically, don't panic. This is NOT an epidemic. I'm not going to say out right away that it's a get rich quick scheme, but nowadays, anything is possible. With a little more research, I think you'll find that the media, as always, has blown it out of proportion. A big problem that humans face, is when something is unknown to us, we make assumptions. These assumptions can induce fear and cause widespread panic. If only people READ and RESEARCHED the topic, they would see that it isn't as bad as initially thought. Without wanting to start any form of flame war, I'll just make a quick example. When the Twin Towers were hit, they estimated deaths to be above 10,000. I'm not sure about the exact number, but I'm sure it's under 4,000. I'm not saying these deaths aren't tragic, I would just like to point out how the media uses hyperbole to attract ratings and sales. Again, I apologies if this sounds like I'm attacking the media, but I'm a little frustrated at how they publicise the bad news, but not the good news. The pandemics, but not the cures. I apologies again if I have offended anyone, and I assure you it was done unintentionally. | ||
Kolean.Tellan
Belgium217 Posts
i took two flew shots in my entire life and that was when i was a kid.i never take any form of medicine except for some painkillers when its really needed to, therefore i never ever got sick during the last 25 years due to natural resistance( i drink smoke work under very stressy conditions etc) i'm not saying people shouldnt worry or take precuations for this whenever they can r need to but the thing is nowadays we are messing way to much with our natural resistance for no reason i'm also not saying that there are indeed some really nasty ones wich none of us can handle no matter how healthy we are (maybe even this one) but i'm more afraid for when a really big one is going to pop up and a bigger % is going to die due to have bad natural resistance | ||
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Switzerland439 Posts
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Norway337 Posts
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
On May 02 2009 22:04 BookTwo wrote: You guys ALL need to take a step back. You ALL need to read this before thinking another thing. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/04/29/Swine-Flu.aspx ------------------- Now you see? Less than 10 people have DIED as a DIRECT result of the virus. 3,500 people die A DAY from malaria ALONE. Why aren't we labeling that an epidemic? Because there aren't any vaccines that can be make which will make people very, very rich. I'm talking billions here. You'll probably notice that it is my first post. Yes it is. I found the level of awareness on this matter very disturbing. Basically, don't panic. This is NOT an epidemic. I'm not going to say out right away that it's a get rich quick scheme, but nowadays, anything is possible. With a little more research, I think you'll find that the media, as always, has blown it out of proportion. A big problem that humans face, is when something is unknown to us, we make assumptions. These assumptions can induce fear and cause widespread panic. If only people READ and RESEARCHED the topic, they would see that it isn't as bad as initially thought. Without wanting to start any form of flame war, I'll just make a quick example. When the Twin Towers were hit, they estimated deaths to be above 10,000. I'm not sure about the exact number, but I'm sure it's under 4,000. I'm not saying these deaths aren't tragic, I would just like to point out how the media uses hyperbole to attract ratings and sales. Again, I apologies if this sounds like I'm attacking the media, but I'm a little frustrated at how they publicise the bad news, but not the good news. The pandemics, but not the cures. I apologies again if I have offended anyone, and I assure you it was done unintentionally. Lol, are you the author of that article? Booktwo? Iunno, that doctor definitely a little out there. He says he's not one for conspiracy theories but his words before and after that sentence say otherwise. I'm not saying he's wrong, just presents himself as a radical while claiming otherwise. | ||
BookTwo
1985 Posts
No. I am not. Dr. Mercola is a world renown doctor, and I'm just a frustrated 18 year old, not wanting the world to panic over something that shouldn't be labeled an 'epidemic.' I wholly blame the media for the hype. | ||
mahnini
United States6862 Posts
LOL! | ||
JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
PANIC! 1st confirmed case in Australia http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25452286-5018988,00.html it seems alot of the anxiety and fear surrounding the flu has dissipated, but its troubling that it has actually been confirmed in my country :S the report says it was a low count and she was no longer infectious. Well the good news is she arrived in QLD, not NSW LOL. dont come to NSW plz flu | ||
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