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Shiznick
United States2200 Posts
On January 21 2009 11:16 rushz0rz wrote: OBAMA HATES BUDDHISTS!!!!!11 I'm certainly not stating anything like that, but I think that it would have been wiser to use a different term if he really had to make a nod to atheists. Not that it really matters anyway, it wasn't Obama's speech to write. | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On January 21 2009 11:20 Shiznick wrote: I'm certainly not stating anything like that, but I think that it would have been wiser to use a different term if he really had to make a nod to atheists. Not that it really matters anyway, it wasn't Obama's speech to write. Seriously. Stop nitpicking. | ||
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alphafuzard
United States1610 Posts
For me, the best part was Aretha Franklin and Yo Yo Ma, but that's just the kind of guy I am  | ||
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shavingcream66
United States1219 Posts
On January 21 2009 07:19 MarklarMarklar wrote: fuck speeches, i only listen to actions. yeah even though I like Obama, im still cynical about what the government can do | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
But atheism and agnostics are not all that the term covers. It's basically anyone who is not of those four persuasions, including Buddhists. It's certainly not an enormous blunder, but I think he could have used a better term. Including Shintoists, Scientologists, Confucians, Buddists, Sikhs, Zoroastrians, Pastafarians... Oh, he cut off the list? I'm sure the USA's Zoroastrians are furious to the point of spouting flame from their ears. | ||
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b3h47pte
United States1317 Posts
On January 21 2009 11:40 alphafuzard wrote: Solid speech, not quite awe inspiring, but nice to listen to For me, the best part was Aretha Franklin and Yo Yo Ma, but that's just the kind of guy I am omg yoyo ma rocking it out on the cello. | ||
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GhostKorean
United States2330 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
BREAKING: White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel stops Bush’s last-minute regs. Emanuel signs a memorandum ordering all agencies and departments to stop all pending regulations until a legal and policy review can be conducted by the Obama administration. There is your action. GG Bush. | ||
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On January 21 2009 11:08 Shiznick wrote: But atheism and agnostics are not all that the term covers. It's basically anyone who is not of those four persuasions, including Buddhists. It's certainly not an enormous blunder, but I think he could have used a better term. non·be·liev·er n. One who does not believe or have faith, as in God or a philosophy. huh? | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
There have been lots of sociological/political papers on the use of 'other' non-believers was definitely the better choice | ||
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sith
United States2474 Posts
THE HORROR. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On January 21 2009 13:18 sith wrote: Who will liberals whine about now? If something goes wrong, there aren't any republicans to blame it on. THE HORROR. There are enough Republicans that are doing stupid things to work against. Such as seeing if government officials are patriotic enough to serve. | ||
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Aux1
United States780 Posts
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
On January 21 2009 13:18 sith wrote: Who will liberals whine about now? If something goes wrong, there aren't any republicans to blame it on. THE HORROR. Yes, which means the fun is just beginning EDIT: There is a reason that political power tends to swing from one party to the other in the matter of just a few years. In the 90's you had a democratic president and democratic congress in both houses, next thing you know the GOP has the House, then the Senate and the Presidency. Fast forward to 2006, dems take congress then the Whitehouse in 2009. Give the democrats a few years and the GOP should be back if 200 years of history is anything to go by. | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
On January 21 2009 13:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: There are enough Republicans that are doing stupid things to work against. Such as seeing if government officials are patriotic enough to serve. But now there are enough democrats to do REALLY stupid things like eliminating voter anonymity for workers voting on unionization. Hurray for ending anonymity in the voting booth? | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
you guys actually think obama is going to do a bad a job as bush? | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
On January 21 2009 13:36 fusionsdf wrote: lol you guys actually think obama is going to do a bad a job as bush? So far, I have a much more favorable impression of Obama than of other democratic leaders like Nancy Pelosi. But on the other hand, Obama has never actually done anything. I am merely judging him on his rhetoric which is a pretty weak thing to judge someone on, but thats all we have at this point. If he can stand up to the more experienced liberal leaders and be a centrist like he says he wants to be, I will be happy. He doesn't have to be conservative. EDIT: Funny thing is that even though rhetoric is a "pretty weak thing to judge someone on", apparently it is enough to get you elected President. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
and yes I think an incoming president should have a vision for the future John McCain didn't, so its entirely proper that he lost. For the record, McCain would have made a horrible president, you only have to look at his various campaign missteps to see that | ||
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DV8
United States1623 Posts
On January 21 2009 13:30 Savio wrote: Yes, which means the fun is just beginning EDIT: There is a reason that political power tends to swing from one party to the other in the matter of just a few years. In the 90's you had a democratic president and democratic congress in both houses, next thing you know the GOP has the House, then the Senate and the Presidency. Fast forward to 2006, dems take congress then the Whitehouse in 2009. Give the democrats a few years and the GOP should be back if 200 years of history is anything to go by. Although I agree with where you're going with this. But what 200 years are we talking about since the GOP was founded in 1854 or did you mean the last 154 years | ||
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