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Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
January 21 2009 02:20 GMT
#181
On January 21 2009 11:16 rushz0rz wrote:
OBAMA HATES BUDDHISTS!!!!!11

I'm certainly not stating anything like that, but I think that it would have been wiser to use a different term if he really had to make a nod to atheists. Not that it really matters anyway, it wasn't Obama's speech to write.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
January 21 2009 02:38 GMT
#182
On January 21 2009 11:20 Shiznick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 11:16 rushz0rz wrote:
OBAMA HATES BUDDHISTS!!!!!11

I'm certainly not stating anything like that, but I think that it would have been wiser to use a different term if he really had to make a nod to atheists. Not that it really matters anyway, it wasn't Obama's speech to write.

Seriously. Stop nitpicking.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
January 21 2009 02:40 GMT
#183
Solid speech, not quite awe inspiring, but nice to listen to
For me, the best part was Aretha Franklin and Yo Yo Ma, but that's just the kind of guy I am
more weight
shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-21 02:42:58
January 21 2009 02:42 GMT
#184
On January 21 2009 07:19 MarklarMarklar wrote:
fuck speeches, i only listen to actions.


yeah even though I like Obama, im still cynical about what the government can do
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
January 21 2009 03:17 GMT
#185
But atheism and agnostics are not all that the term covers. It's basically anyone who is not of those four persuasions, including Buddhists. It's certainly not an enormous blunder, but I think he could have used a better term.


Including Shintoists, Scientologists, Confucians, Buddists, Sikhs, Zoroastrians, Pastafarians...

Oh, he cut off the list? I'm sure the USA's Zoroastrians are furious to the point of spouting flame from their ears.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
January 21 2009 03:17 GMT
#186
On January 21 2009 11:40 alphafuzard wrote:
Solid speech, not quite awe inspiring, but nice to listen to
For me, the best part was Aretha Franklin and Yo Yo Ma, but that's just the kind of guy I am


omg yoyo ma rocking it out on the cello.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
January 21 2009 03:55 GMT
#187
I saw it at school. Then I rewatched Obama's speech, so today was like a free day at school
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 21 2009 03:56 GMT
#188
BREAKING: White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel stops Bush’s last-minute regs. Emanuel signs a memorandum ordering all agencies and departments to stop all pending regulations until a legal and policy review can be conducted by the Obama administration.


There is your action. GG Bush.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
January 21 2009 03:57 GMT
#189
I was working all day making assloads of 2-foot subs for people throwing all day inauguration parties.

ugh
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
January 21 2009 03:58 GMT
#190
On January 21 2009 11:08 Shiznick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 10:35 L wrote:

I agree. Whoever wrote his speech made a major slip, "non-believers" to group people of non-Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, Christian persuasion. Really poor rhetoric to use a negatively-charged term like that in a speech promoting unity in the face of adversity.
Pretty sure he wanted to pull in atheists and agnostics into his fold, but without calling them atheists or agnostics.

Atheism and agnosticism are not uncharged terms in the united states.

But atheism and agnostics are not all that the term covers. It's basically anyone who is not of those four persuasions, including Buddhists. It's certainly not an enormous blunder, but I think he could have used a better term.


non·be·liev·er
n. One who does not believe or have faith, as in God or a philosophy.

huh?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 21 2009 04:07 GMT
#191
its better to say non-believer than to label everything but the main four as 'other'

There have been lots of sociological/political papers on the use of 'other'
non-believers was definitely the better choice
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
sith
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2474 Posts
January 21 2009 04:18 GMT
#192
Who will liberals whine about now? If something goes wrong, there aren't any republicans to blame it on.

THE HORROR.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 21 2009 04:21 GMT
#193
On January 21 2009 13:18 sith wrote:
Who will liberals whine about now? If something goes wrong, there aren't any republicans to blame it on.

THE HORROR.


There are enough Republicans that are doing stupid things to work against. Such as seeing if government officials are patriotic enough to serve.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Aux1
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States780 Posts
January 21 2009 04:29 GMT
#194
Did anybody else see the poem reading? It was fucking pathetic.
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-21 04:33:51
January 21 2009 04:30 GMT
#195
On January 21 2009 13:18 sith wrote:
Who will liberals whine about now? If something goes wrong, there aren't any republicans to blame it on.

THE HORROR.


Yes, which means the fun is just beginning

EDIT: There is a reason that political power tends to swing from one party to the other in the matter of just a few years. In the 90's you had a democratic president and democratic congress in both houses, next thing you know the GOP has the House, then the Senate and the Presidency. Fast forward to 2006, dems take congress then the Whitehouse in 2009.

Give the democrats a few years and the GOP should be back if 200 years of history is anything to go by.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-21 04:37:17
January 21 2009 04:35 GMT
#196
On January 21 2009 13:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 13:18 sith wrote:
Who will liberals whine about now? If something goes wrong, there aren't any republicans to blame it on.

THE HORROR.


There are enough Republicans that are doing stupid things to work against. Such as seeing if government officials are patriotic enough to serve.


But now there are enough democrats to do REALLY stupid things like eliminating voter anonymity for workers voting on unionization.

Hurray for ending anonymity in the voting booth?
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 21 2009 04:36 GMT
#197
lol

you guys actually think obama is going to do a bad a job as bush?
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-21 04:41:26
January 21 2009 04:40 GMT
#198
On January 21 2009 13:36 fusionsdf wrote:
lol

you guys actually think obama is going to do a bad a job as bush?


So far, I have a much more favorable impression of Obama than of other democratic leaders like Nancy Pelosi. But on the other hand, Obama has never actually done anything. I am merely judging him on his rhetoric which is a pretty weak thing to judge someone on, but thats all we have at this point.

If he can stand up to the more experienced liberal leaders and be a centrist like he says he wants to be, I will be happy. He doesn't have to be conservative.


EDIT: Funny thing is that even though rhetoric is a "pretty weak thing to judge someone on", apparently it is enough to get you elected President.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 21 2009 05:01 GMT
#199
I think it should more accurately described as a vision

and yes I think an incoming president should have a vision for the future

John McCain didn't, so its entirely proper that he lost. For the record, McCain would have made a horrible president, you only have to look at his various campaign missteps to see that
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
January 21 2009 05:10 GMT
#200
On January 21 2009 13:30 Savio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 13:18 sith wrote:
Who will liberals whine about now? If something goes wrong, there aren't any republicans to blame it on.

THE HORROR.


Yes, which means the fun is just beginning

EDIT: There is a reason that political power tends to swing from one party to the other in the matter of just a few years. In the 90's you had a democratic president and democratic congress in both houses, next thing you know the GOP has the House, then the Senate and the Presidency. Fast forward to 2006, dems take congress then the Whitehouse in 2009.

Give the democrats a few years and the GOP should be back if 200 years of history is anything to go by.

Although I agree with where you're going with this. But what 200 years are we talking about since the GOP was founded in 1854 or did you mean the last 154 years
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