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Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
January 23 2009 05:34 GMT
#221
I said earlier that I have a much more positive view of Obama than I do of other democratic leaders like Pelosi.

I do approve of these orders regarding executive privilege and transparency.

I also think he is very smart and knoweldgeable about constitutional law looking at his education. I was merely pointing out that what he had DONE was much smaller than is normal for a Presidential nominee.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 23 2009 05:39 GMT
#222
I know, and everything you said was accurate which is why I didn't contest it.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
January 23 2009 06:54 GMT
#223
On January 23 2009 08:18 XoXiDe wrote:
I went to the inauguration and it was a pretty awesome experience, and my trip to philly and baltimore as well. i knew the boo's were going to come, i was on the opposite end of the national mall and i heard the boo's they were really loud. I was going to make a blog post but i figured i'd just post my web album for anyone interested in looking at the inauguration pictures which are towards the bottom of the album.

D.C. Trip Album



Wow, thanks for sharing the pics! Where are you from btw?
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 23 2009 09:13 GMT
#224
On January 23 2009 14:12 Savio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2009 15:00 fusionsdf wrote:
On January 21 2009 15:33 Savio wrote:
On January 21 2009 14:01 fusionsdf wrote:
I think it should more accurately described as a vision

and yes I think an incoming president should have a vision for the future

John McCain didn't, so its entirely proper that he lost. For the record, McCain would have made a horrible president, you only have to look at his various campaign missteps to see that


You and I judge people differently. You looked at the 2 campaigns and the words they spoke while I looked at their lives and the things they had done/accomplished.

In my opinion, you should never trust what a politician SAYS to understand him but rather what he does. ESPECIALLY during a political campaign.

Don't you remember when Bush debated Gore, Bush criticized Clinton/Gore for "nation building" and using our military when war wasn't necessary?

By your standard, would we really understand Bush? By my standard, I looked at how many executions he presided over in Texas (a TON) and I said, "This guy is a hawk".

Now you judged Obama and McCain based on their campaigns.

Not a good idea imo.

EDIT: I am not saying Obama is gonna be bad or socialist, but just that nobody knows what he is gonna do or be like because he has never actually done anything. We only have the words he spoke while in the middle of a political campaign. Which pretty much means squat in my book.



hahaha

bush managed to nearly bankrupt an oil company and do a horrible job as governor
mccain managed to finish fifth last in a class of ~900 and crash 3 seperate planes

both only managed to get where they were because of who their father was


Even Obama's supporters admit that he has the shortest resume of any major party nominee since....well as far back as anyone can remember. That doesn't even have to be defended because he didn't even try to run on accomplishment but on hope. It was a winning strategy, but doesn't change the fact that his resume was pretty slim. Almost no time in national politics, no legislative accomplishments that were significant, no experience running a state government, no military experience, no brilliant business successes...etc.

He seems a decent guy, he just hasn't done much. Although he does speak very well.


you still had roughly a year of campaigning to judge him on.

He didn't win because he used fancy words. He won because he had one of the most brilliant and well-oiled campaigns in US history. Even if you don't trust his words, if you look at the difference in effectiveness on the campaign trail, its easy to see who has his shit together
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benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 23 2009 09:33 GMT
#225
i also went to the inauguration because i am in DC atm for some research, so it was very convenient

i'm a fan of obama, but not much of a fan of all the pomp and circumstance surrounding the event, so initially i was annoyed by the whole thing, but my misanthropy pretty much melted by seeing the reactions of the people around me. i think being reasonably young and growing up in a much more progressive era has made racism a very abstract, impersonal idea, so my scope is limited a bit on the impact of the event, but the outpouring of emotion around me was enough for an affirmation of it

it was a bizarre thing, but i thought it was very classy on all fronts and run pretty smoothly (actually on that note i cannot comment, because i avoided the metro like a plague and my friends and i just hoofed it back to dupont in the cold, my fingers are still coming back to normal, where are those heating bags they give the progamers to keep their hands warm when i need them!)

wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
kilbejee
Profile Joined January 2009
Brazil4 Posts
January 23 2009 09:57 GMT
#226
On January 23 2009 15:54 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 08:18 XoXiDe wrote:
I went to the inauguration and it was a pretty awesome experience, and my trip to philly and baltimore as well. i knew the boo's were going to come, i was on the opposite end of the national mall and i heard the boo's they were really loud. I was going to make a blog post but i figured i'd just post my web album for anyone interested in looking at the inauguration pictures which are towards the bottom of the album.

D.C. Trip Album



Wow, thanks for sharing the pics! Where are you from btw?


I also liked your pictures very much, I wish I could have been there!
XoXiDe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States620 Posts
January 23 2009 17:03 GMT
#227
On January 23 2009 18:57 kilbejee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 15:54 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On January 23 2009 08:18 XoXiDe wrote:
I went to the inauguration and it was a pretty awesome experience, and my trip to philly and baltimore as well. i knew the boo's were going to come, i was on the opposite end of the national mall and i heard the boo's they were really loud. I was going to make a blog post but i figured i'd just post my web album for anyone interested in looking at the inauguration pictures which are towards the bottom of the album.

D.C. Trip Album



Wow, thanks for sharing the pics! Where are you from btw?


I also liked your pictures very much, I wish I could have been there!


thanks, i'm from south texas, live in san antonio for school.

to benjammin>> my hands were the only things that got really cold, especially on the fri and saturday i went to d.c. it was fricken cold, i did have some handwarmers on inaug day though . the metro was nuts i ended up walking around for a while and waited at a museum for a bit until the crowds died down, which was like 4 hours later, so one of the best moments was followed by some of the worse due to the crowd and cold lol, but it was worth it.

i also have to say historic philadelphia was amazing.
TEXAN
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 24 2009 02:00 GMT
#228
I can imagine it was crazy down there. The metro is packed during normal business hours, I can't imagine 2.5 million people trying to get on!
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Mannequin
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada131 Posts
January 24 2009 02:14 GMT
#229
To be honest its on when Trailer Park Boys are on so i wont watch it live but i guess it is the first black president so asoon as my TV turns on im gonna see it everywhere. so i guess Il watch the highlights later.
This is more Important to Americans then it is to me so i am not going to comment on anything it will affect me but not as much.
The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on.
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
January 27 2009 14:13 GMT
#230
it's still going to take it a while for it to sink in for me that someone with a brain is running the US now

i've been reading the news lately and been like "oh good decision; oh that's a smart move; oh i like that"

after 8 years it's so hard for my head to absorb that good decisions are being made, and those good decisions have a direct trickle down effect on all global citizens.

looking forward to getting used to this feeling.
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
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