On December 24 2008 10:58 CharlieMurphy wrote: No, you smack them on the spot and tell that that no one wants to hear their whining. If they keep whining you threaten to take them to the car and spank them further. If that doesn't work then you beat them.
You can't always blame the parents for shitty kids.
No you just need to ignore it, beating your kids out of frustration isn't gonna do anything but turn him into the same person. When you ignore your kid when he cries and whines he will become more independant by himself, while you're just acknowledging him by beating him.
It's not that hard to ignore, you just need some restraint and patience, I think those qualities are a lot more worthwhile in society than violence.
you can't very well walk around ignoring a whining child or a screaming little shit throwing a fit for a toy.
You need to discipline him on the spot, no words will shut this child up. Situation demands physical discipline.
Why the hell not? It's gonna run out of energy sometime. The situation does not demand physical discipline at all.
People like you should be smacked for not smacking your kids. I dont want to hear the little shits whining in public. Please learn to respect others. Letting your kid whine for an hour in public until it is too tired to whine is so wrong.
Except I was raised without beating and I always behaved well in public. People like me? lol I have way more insight in the raising of children than most.
And if you apply this technique at home your kid won't even act like this in public anyway, people who keep acknowledging their kids crying at an older age are keeping them too dependant for no reason.
On December 24 2008 11:13 Mastermind wrote: You shouldnt beat your kids, but smacking them once or twice is fine. Dont use excessive force. Just enough so they wont want to repeat their actions. If the kid is being a smart ass, an open palmed light smack to the back of the head is called for. For other things, a light spanking. If you leave a mark, you did it to hard. If they still hurt 10 minutes later, you did it to hard. It should just be a short lasting sensation to smarten them up.
why the head?
why not the bum, or the arm, or anywhere else?
Honestly, if someone hit me at my age now to get my attention, and they did so by hitting me on the arm, bum, leg, or whatever, they would get my attention and i wouldn't give a damn. If someone hit me in the back of my head to get my attention, i'd fucking punch them in the face.
On December 24 2008 11:15 Mastermind wrote: Why the hell not? It's gonna run out of energy sometime. The situation does not demand physical discipline at all.
People like you should be smacked for not smacking your kids. I dont want to hear the little shits whining in public. Please learn to respect others. Letting your kid whine for an hour in public until it is too tired to whine is so wrong.
Except I was raised without beating and I always behaved well in public. People like me? lol I have way more insight in the raising of children than most.[/QUOTE]
Why do you feel this way?
Most people credit themselves with knowing how to raise children better than the average, often for a plethora of good and bad reasons. I'm curious what you feel has given you such insight (sincerely curious - is it from school? discussion on the subject? lessons handed down from parents?).
what kind of pussy sits there and lets their kid scream cry and bitch just because they will run out of energy eventually? Man the fuck up. Or rather, shut your kid the fuck up. What a pathetic way of looking at parenting "they'll stop eventually", yeah, only after they annoy you, everyone around you, learn your a push over, and learn they can get away with it.
Why the hell not? It's gonna run out of energy sometime. The situation does not demand physical discipline at all.
People like you should be smacked for not smacking your kids. I dont want to hear the little shits whining in public. Please learn to respect others. Letting your kid whine for an hour in public until it is too tired to whine is so wrong.
Except I was raised without beating and I always behaved well in public. People like me? lol I have way more insight in the raising of children than most.
Why do you feel this way?
Most people credit themselves with knowing how to raise children better than the average, often for a plethora of good and bad reasons. I'm curious what you feel has given you such insight (sincerely curious - is it from school? discussion on the subject? lessons handed down from parents?).
lol no nothing like that I study psychology at the university of leiden
Having to resort to physical punishment is a sure sign of failed parenting. It is somewhat similar to how you don't train a dog by beating it; it might obey you, but it will be out of fear and not because it wants to.Physically punishing your children is just an easy, lazy and bad solution.
physical beating only teaches your child to not do bad things when the parents aren't around. Instead of teaching your kid that maybe drugs, alcohol is bad, all you do is encourage them to use them when you are not around so they simply don't get beat.
This could work if the parents are cock blocks, but if not, beating helps only partially.
If you simply talk to the children reasonably when they are still young and not as corrupted, theres a far greater chance that this will work, especially if you make them feel guilty without getting mad or violent
On December 24 2008 10:24 PetrBlaha wrote: I HATE to see this new-age bringing up with no beating. Children sometimes just NEED some kind of shock to set them straight, to give them borders, mantinels, in which they can "manuevre".
This, a kid learns not to do something much faster by a small physical demonstration than being told "NO, BAD BOY/GIRL".
i take it you've never seen the TV show "super nanny." she demonstrates, with relative ease i might add, how easy it is to discipline a child without violence. give 1 warning for bad behaviour and if they persist, put the child aside for a certain period of time and ignore them (unless they move away from that spot). after the time-out explain to them what they did wrong directly, get an apology, show them some love and move on.
while it is true that physical disciplining is more immediate in its effectiveness and hence why people do it at all, it is not effective in the long term at all. on the contrary, it causes far more problems. it promotes further behavioural problems and festers hatred towards the abuser. not only that but the child then sees violence as an appropriate way to then treat other people, such as their peers.
There's a difference between beating and smacking your kid around a bit.
If you kid screws up pretty bad i think it's definitely called for a smack on the butt or slap on the head or something to keep him in line. But for most stuff (didn't do homework or something) just a strong talking to/yelling at is whats needed.
On December 24 2008 11:35 Ichigo1234551 wrote: dont beat up ur kids man if you do then beat ur kids with love act like your crying when you hit them and say this hurt me more than you BAM
Then do the same with your wife, and live happily ever after.
On December 24 2008 10:10 Keniji wrote: When my brother came back from US for christmas (he's living in US fo 2 years now) he told me that when he's talking about several things with his american friends, he is still surprised how often they are really conservative from european point of view.
E.g. that many americans agree about beating kids is a good way to give them discipline. I don't agree with that at all and also don't know anybody who would agree with that. Actually you are even outlawed in Germany when you are beating your kids. (Sadly there are still enough)
So i'm interested what's the point of view all over the world about that topic.
EPT
