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hixhix
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Oh, his parents didnt beat him at all ? | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On December 24 2008 10:48 CharlieMurphy wrote: no, beat your kids when they are being little shits in public. If you don't they will abuse the stigma pf societies view to control you. If you only operate on their level with mental discipline they see this and play mind games, show them how you don't take that shit and smack them. This is classic, you educating me on psychology. I was never beaten (okay maybe a little but that was only during a period of 1 year or so, and it definately had no positive effects, didnt stop any behavior in the long run, etc) and was never a little shit in public because I was raised well. Other people get beaten a lot and are little shits in public, mostly because of their terrible upbringing. And little kids don't play mind games, they are too stupid for that lol. With kids you just need to give rewards and motivate them for good things, even a nice word counts. When you get home and beat the kids there is already too much time passed anyway for it to have any effect. You need to raise your kids right from the start, and beating them is not going to discourage them from acting like shits, it only encourages violent behavior and turn him into a loser. | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
On December 24 2008 10:50 MoltkeWarding wrote: Beating your children is a bad control mechanism. Either it will control them or it won't, but if it succeeds, your children will grow up spineless cowards and if it fails, your children will grow up seething with resentment. i think thats a misconception, a common one. There are certain boundaries and rules that parents must respect when using physical discipline, and if used correctly and not beating your kids senseless , this method can be a very effective way for discipline. | ||
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mmgoose
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
You can't always blame the parents for shitty kids. | ||
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
On December 24 2008 10:50 MoltkeWarding wrote: Beating your children is a bad control mechanism. Either it will control them or it won't, but if it succeeds, your children will grow up spineless cowards and if it fails, your children will grow up seething with resentment. But beating women is ok. Am i right? | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On December 24 2008 10:59 Luddite wrote: Beatings are a horrible way of raising a child, they don't even work well on dogs. Basically what you teach your kid is, "might makes right". They'll grow up in fear of their parents, and take it out on any kid smaller than them. There's sooooo many ways to teach a kid without physically abusing them. I never went out beating up other kids. Where do you get this nonsense? | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
i don't think that physical discipline is nearly as bad as many people make it out to be. Getting a smack on the ass or whatever can often bring kids back to reality quickly. that being said, if you were to compare two sets of parents, one set that brought up a child successfully with physical discipline, and another who brought one up equally as successfully without physical discipline, it's pretty clear who the superior parents are. This is true in most situations. If you compare a boss/teacher/mentor who uses negative reinforcement and ones who use positive reinforcement, a pretty clear distinction can be made that while the former [may be] effective, the latter is awe-inspiring. | ||
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NatsuTerran
United States364 Posts
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
On December 24 2008 11:00 CharlieMurphy wrote: I never went out beating up other kids. Where do you get this nonsense? from psychological studies which show a far greater rate of bullying in kids that were beaten as a child. That's not to say that every kid does it, but it certainly increases the chance that they will. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On December 24 2008 10:58 CharlieMurphy wrote: No, you smack them on the spot and tell that that no one wants to hear their whining. If they keep whining you threaten to take them to the car and spank them further. If that doesn't work then you beat them. You can't always blame the parents for shitty kids. No you just need to ignore it, beating your kids out of frustration isn't gonna do anything but turn him into the same person. When you ignore your kid when he cries and whines he will become more independant by himself, while you're just acknowledging him by beating him. It's not that hard to ignore, you just need some restraint and patience, I think those qualities are a lot more worthwhile in society than violence. | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On December 24 2008 10:50 MoltkeWarding wrote: Before 40 years ago, everyone got beat. Everywhere. Are you fucking telling me every single person on this planet, bar those born [and even then] from the 80's onward are spineless cowards or hate their parents?Beating your children is a bad control mechanism. Either it will control them or it won't, but if it succeeds, your children will grow up spineless cowards and if it fails, your children will grow up seething with resentment. wtf | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On December 24 2008 11:03 Frits wrote: No you just need to ignore it, beating your kids out of frustration isn't gonna do anything but turn him into the same person. When you ignore your kid when he cries and whines he will become more independant by himself, while you're just acknowledging him by beating him. It's not that hard to ignore, you just need some restraint and patience, I think those qualities are a lot more worthwhile in society than violence. you can't very well walk around ignoring a whining child or a screaming little shit throwing a fit for a toy. You need to discipline him on the spot, no words will shut this child up. Situation demands physical discipline. Who said anything about frustration. There is a time and place for violence, if you wanna call it that. | ||
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white_box921
United Kingdom967 Posts
and yea, I did end up bullying smaller kid at school. nothing wrong with that, there has to be some who bully, and some who takes it. And I have also learnt how to not piss off the people bigger than me (i.e. my parents) | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On December 24 2008 11:08 CharlieMurphy wrote: you can't very well walk around ignoring a whining child or a screaming little shit throwing a fit for a toy. You need to discipline him on the spot, no words will shut this child up. Situation demands physical discipline. Why the hell not? It's gonna run out of energy sometime. The situation does not demand physical discipline at all. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
On December 24 2008 11:11 Frits wrote: Why the hell not? It's gonna run out of energy sometime. The situation does not demand physical discipline at all. People like you should be smacked for not smacking your kids. I dont want to hear the little shits whining in public. Please learn to respect others. Letting your kid whine for an hour in public until it is too tired to whine is so wrong. | ||
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