EPTComing from a Caucasian household I can reiterate that the positive reinforcement doesn't work. My dad always offered me 5 bucks for every A or whatever. I didn't care either way. Now if he had beaten me when I got bad grades, well then maybe I would have cared to cheat more often and get an A.
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
Coming from a Caucasian household I can reiterate that the positive reinforcement doesn't work. My dad always offered me 5 bucks for every A or whatever. I didn't care either way. Now if he had beaten me when I got bad grades, well then maybe I would have cared to cheat more often and get an A. | ||
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ilistis
United States828 Posts
On December 24 2008 10:23 shavingcream66 wrote: not to generalize or anything, but coming from an Asian household, I think its safe to say that almost all asian kids get physically disciplined. Negative reinforcement is preferred over positive reinforcement. Not being racist, just sharing my 2cents here negative reinforcement- "if you don't get straight A's, then you get [a punishment]" positive reinforcement- "if you do get straight A's, then you get [a reward] I used to get beat with sticks and my friends got beat with metal pipes (not too hard, doesn't shatter bones) edit: haha i remember how sometimes my cousin would come to school with bruises down her arms but we were told to say that we "fell down" if someone asked Lol, that's what my parents said to me when I was younger. Come to think of it, I've avoided some deep shit because of that. Sure it hurts but it sets you straight. My little cousin actually told on my aunt. Stupid kid. | ||
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koreakool
United States334 Posts
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ilistis
United States828 Posts
On December 24 2008 10:34 CharlieMurphy wrote: Coming from a Caucasian household I can reiterate that the positive reinforcement doesn't work. My dad always offered me 5 bucks for every A or whatever. I didn't care either way. Now if he had beaten me when I got bad grades, well then maybe I would have cared to cheat more often and get an A. How about both? If you get that A, an award, if you don't, a beating. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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pooper-scooper
United States3108 Posts
I was beaten as a child, never so that it hurt me more than for say a half hour, but it was very effective. There is a line, in fact a thick one, between beatings and abuse. | ||
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shavingcream66
United States1219 Posts
Coming from a Caucasian household I can reiterate that the positive reinforcement doesn't work. My dad always offered me 5 bucks for every A or whatever. I didn't care either way. Now if he had beaten me when I got bad grades, well then maybe I would have cared to cheat more often and get an A. LOL | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On December 24 2008 10:34 CharlieMurphy wrote: Coming from a Caucasian household I can reiterate that the positive reinforcement doesn't work. My dad always offered me 5 bucks for every A or whatever. I didn't care either way. Now if he had beaten me when I got bad grades, well then maybe I would have cared to cheat more often and get an A. Although punishment is twice as effective as rewards, rewards work in the long run. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
yea, school is a joke. Everyone cheats. Its really sad, maybe the teachers should beat kids when they get caught. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2397 Posts
ok now on a serious note, i come from a mexican household and yes i had physical discipline upon me if i did anything bad, constantly or bad enough of course and it worked. i personally say this is favorable but going to the extreme of beating a child is not a good idea. my 2 cents, either extreme is bad | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
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brjdrb
United States577 Posts
On December 24 2008 10:43 Frits wrote: Although punishment is twice as effective as rewards, rewards work in the long run. the problem with that is that most children are more concerned with immediate consequences. telling a child that if they do well in school, they'll get money at the end of the semester won't work. telling a child to do their homework so that they can go out for the night / weekend is a much more effective method, b/c it has more immediate consequences | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On December 24 2008 10:45 Frits wrote: Just to be clear, beatings are NEVER justified when raising kids, there's always a non violent solution, beating your kids only makes up for your terrible parenting skills. no, beat your kids when they are being little shits in public. If you don't they will abuse the stigma pf societies view to control you. If you only operate on their level with mental discipline they see this and play mind games, show them how you don't take that shit and smack them. | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
On December 24 2008 10:14 Eskii wrote: Physical discipline is an entirely fine way to deal with your kids. agreed, as long as they don't have bruises or anything like that i got beaten pretty bad when I was a kid when i was behaving like a little punk, and im thankful for that believe it or not. | ||
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
Either it will control them or it won't, but if it succeeds, your children will grow up spineless cowards and if it fails, your children will grow up seething with resentment. | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On December 24 2008 10:45 xMiragex wrote: so this is how jaedong got his 400+ apm..."your apm is too low" *smack* Jaedong plays for Lecaf, not old KTF. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On December 24 2008 10:32 CharlieMurphy wrote: If you don't beat your kids, they will be faggots. true story. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On December 24 2008 10:50 MoltkeWarding wrote: Beating your children is a bad control mechanism. Either it will control them or it won't, but if it succeeds, your children will grow up spineless cowards and if it fails, your children will grow up seething with resentment. a choke chain on a dog works because the dog gets hurt when it tries to not listen or run out of his bounds. Eventually the dog (depending on how smart) will learn to listen and obey commands associated with the pain. Then you can remove the choke chain and use a regular leash. PS- I am not a spineless coward, nor do I resent my parents. | ||
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