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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
October 20 2008 04:57 GMT
#81
It's a fucking shame, that even behind the keyboard, peolple can't go beyond "their thinking".

I don't get this shit, at all.
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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-20 09:26:31
October 20 2008 09:26 GMT
#82
Well, considering you've chosen Bush president twice, I'm not that surprised.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
October 21 2008 01:23 GMT
#83
Omg Palin has down syndrome every1 vote 4 her
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
October 21 2008 01:41 GMT
#84
i just finished reading this thread because of PX

i haven't been able to stop weeping
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
October 21 2008 01:48 GMT
#85
On October 19 2008 15:53 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2008 15:13 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
On October 19 2008 14:29 ilovezil wrote:
On October 19 2008 14:24 iheartgna wrote:
On October 19 2008 14:11 Empyrean wrote:
On October 19 2008 14:02 iheartgna wrote:
That is so pathetic.

Edit: I decided to explain. Chastising someone with disabilities just magnifies their ailment. Shit, I've never seen an unhappy kid with down syndrome, they could have just bought her a lollipop.


I think what the article was getting at was that there are people who can look past outside disabilities and see through to the person on the inside. That the senior class can see past someone's Down Syndrome is something to be commended.


Do you think any of them consider her their friend? Though, that may say nothing about the class because I imagine she is incapable of having real "friends." Homecoming Queen is supposed to be the face of your school. If you looked at a catalog of schools with only their name and a picture of their Homecoming Queen would you want that girl next to your school?


The way I see it, there's already enough places out there advertising for their own personal gains. What's so interesting about this article's school is that it's not all about the pretty faces or outward appearance. I think it's great that there's a place out there that exists like this school.


It doesn't. They probably voted for her because "oh my goodness! Let's make her feel good because she has down syndrome!" It's not, "Wow, she's a really amazing person, and the way she looks shouldn't be the deciding factor of who gets to be homecoming queen." It was a pity vote. I can imagine kids in high school all going around and telling each other to vote for her to make her feel good/important/special.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing that she was voted homecoming queen or anything, it was nice of the students to do so. But to think that they actually looked beyond superficiality is ridiculous. I think it's just a matter of a student body wanting to make themselves feel better about themselves for not being so superficial, which makes them superficial.


my thoughts exactly.

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TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
October 21 2008 02:02 GMT
#86
On October 20 2008 09:12 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2008 03:15 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
Wow, you guys are cynical. I think whether or not she truly is popular with people(something we have no reason to doubt) or if this was a pity vote, is irrelevant. Either way the people in her high school have been "big" enough to prevent this from being a bigger disadvantage than it already is by putting her on the same social level, so to speak. For a bunch of high school kids, I think that is impressive.

They're not putting her on the same social level though. They just donated a temporary superficial award to her. You think they called her up that weekend to hang out/party? I don't.



Saying "the same social level" may have been a bad choice of words, but they don't need to call her up on the weekends for this to make her feel included in what is going on with her peers. I'm blown away by how many people are looking down on this. The assumption that voting for her was somehow completely self serving and superficial in no way out weighs, even if that assumption is true, the positive implications on this girl.
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10499 Posts
October 21 2008 02:38 GMT
#87
People here need their dim view on reality reassured. They need an excuse, one driven by selfishness, to explain why someone would vote for this girl because they are far too pathetic of human beings to do it themselves.
Xusneb
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada612 Posts
October 21 2008 03:31 GMT
#88
On October 21 2008 11:02 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2008 09:12 decafchicken wrote:
On October 20 2008 03:15 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
Wow, you guys are cynical. I think whether or not she truly is popular with people(something we have no reason to doubt) or if this was a pity vote, is irrelevant. Either way the people in her high school have been "big" enough to prevent this from being a bigger disadvantage than it already is by putting her on the same social level, so to speak. For a bunch of high school kids, I think that is impressive.

They're not putting her on the same social level though. They just donated a temporary superficial award to her. You think they called her up that weekend to hang out/party? I don't.



Saying "the same social level" may have been a bad choice of words, but they don't need to call her up on the weekends for this to make her feel included in what is going on with her peers. I'm blown away by how many people are looking down on this. The assumption that voting for her was somehow completely self serving and superficial in no way out weighs, even if that assumption is true, the positive implications on this girl.


I agree with this. It probably was a "pity" vote and she's probably not likely to be integrated into the popular social scene anytime soon. However, I'm sure she felt good even if she questioned the apparent motives of her peers. And I'm sure the rest of the peers felt good to have done a good, helpful deed. Doing the deed > not doing the deed. Honestly, almost every nice thing we do benefits our own conscience as well. Does it make the deed any less? Should we stop the "pity" votes? In my opinion, no way!
If you want to be happy, be. - Leo Tolstoy
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
October 21 2008 04:00 GMT
#89
On October 21 2008 12:31 Xusneb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2008 11:02 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
On October 20 2008 09:12 decafchicken wrote:
On October 20 2008 03:15 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
Wow, you guys are cynical. I think whether or not she truly is popular with people(something we have no reason to doubt) or if this was a pity vote, is irrelevant. Either way the people in her high school have been "big" enough to prevent this from being a bigger disadvantage than it already is by putting her on the same social level, so to speak. For a bunch of high school kids, I think that is impressive.

They're not putting her on the same social level though. They just donated a temporary superficial award to her. You think they called her up that weekend to hang out/party? I don't.



Saying "the same social level" may have been a bad choice of words, but they don't need to call her up on the weekends for this to make her feel included in what is going on with her peers. I'm blown away by how many people are looking down on this. The assumption that voting for her was somehow completely self serving and superficial in no way out weighs, even if that assumption is true, the positive implications on this girl.


I agree with this. It probably was a "pity" vote and she's probably not likely to be integrated into the popular social scene anytime soon. However, I'm sure she felt good even if she questioned the apparent motives of her peers. And I'm sure the rest of the peers felt good to have done a good, helpful deed. Doing the deed > not doing the deed. Honestly, almost every nice thing we do benefits our own conscience as well. Does it make the deed any less? Should we stop the "pity" votes? In my opinion, no way!


My thoughts exactly. Who cares if its pity votes. (although I'm afraid majority of the votes probably were.) She enjoyed it. This is something she will remember whereas some hot popular girl would forget after the next big dance.
Mooga
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States575 Posts
October 21 2008 04:14 GMT
#90
On October 21 2008 11:38 BlackJack wrote:
People here need their dim view on reality reassured. They need an excuse, one driven by selfishness, to explain why someone would vote for this girl because they are far too pathetic of human beings to do it themselves.


The truth hurts. What else can I say?

Anyway, I'll let you take the moral high-ground on this issue. Enjoy your world -- devoid of logic and reason -- a world which is governed by superficial morality and a line between good and evil. A world that you have worked so hard for, while fearing that if your view of reality came crashing down right before your own eyes, you might come to the realization that all of your hard work has been in vain. This, in turn, causes you to assume that these students are acting based on what they think is morally the "right" thing to do. Well... if you believe in this world enough, it becomes reality, right?
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
October 21 2008 06:47 GMT
#91
This reminds me of the kid who jerked off freshman year to the movie "Romeo & Juliet" in English class (I was a junior at the time) and was caught by a girl when she smelled, well, you know. Then, everyone voted for him as Homecoming King. The stupid moron didn't even go to the thing.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
October 21 2008 07:31 GMT
#92
This post dragged all the dickheads out of the woodwork like sweetlemons, the guy who posted that famous pic of the african kid starving next to a vulture and said it was funny

lmao, you asshole
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
hooktits
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-21 07:52:09
October 21 2008 07:51 GMT
#93
just reading this thread is causing my penis to invert, crawl up inside of me and turn into a vagina i gotta go
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Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
October 21 2008 10:14 GMT
#94
On October 21 2008 12:31 Xusneb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2008 11:02 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
On October 20 2008 09:12 decafchicken wrote:
On October 20 2008 03:15 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
Wow, you guys are cynical. I think whether or not she truly is popular with people(something we have no reason to doubt) or if this was a pity vote, is irrelevant. Either way the people in her high school have been "big" enough to prevent this from being a bigger disadvantage than it already is by putting her on the same social level, so to speak. For a bunch of high school kids, I think that is impressive.

They're not putting her on the same social level though. They just donated a temporary superficial award to her. You think they called her up that weekend to hang out/party? I don't.



Saying "the same social level" may have been a bad choice of words, but they don't need to call her up on the weekends for this to make her feel included in what is going on with her peers. I'm blown away by how many people are looking down on this. The assumption that voting for her was somehow completely self serving and superficial in no way out weighs, even if that assumption is true, the positive implications on this girl.


I agree with this. It probably was a "pity" vote and she's probably not likely to be integrated into the popular social scene anytime soon. However, I'm sure she felt good even if she questioned the apparent motives of her peers. And I'm sure the rest of the peers felt good to have done a good, helpful deed. Doing the deed > not doing the deed. Honestly, almost every nice thing we do benefits our own conscience as well. Does it make the deed any less? Should we stop the "pity" votes? In my opinion, no way!


On some level, I want to say fine, it's better to do it than not, even if I believe the motivation is incorrect. On the other hand, I feel like it's not a good thing because it promotes behavior that I believe is fundamentally wrong. The behavior that I speak of is the subtle patronization of Kristin in the form of the "pity" vote.

It's kind of like this: a lot of people do great things in the name of their religion (charity, community service, etc). But even if they do these great things, they're doing it because their religion dictates that they should, not because they actually think it is the moral thing to do. If their religion is wrong, then the whole foundation for their actions is flawed.

In the long run, I think that this trend of doing the right thing for the wrong reasons will be more hurtful than helpful, and we should first consider our reasons before following through with our actions.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28665 Posts
October 21 2008 10:21 GMT
#95
it's a pity vote but its still very very nice
also good that whatever bitch thought she was gonna win didnt
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white_box921
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United Kingdom967 Posts
October 21 2008 10:36 GMT
#96
well... if she is the best looking girl in that school then god bless
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
October 21 2008 10:51 GMT
#97
Sjeesh, 5 pages full of arguments...
Are you all on your period or something?
Be happy for the girl, who cares if she got the title because people were pitying her... I bet she's happy
SickTighT
Profile Joined April 2007
United States337 Posts
October 21 2008 11:01 GMT
#98
On October 21 2008 11:38 BlackJack wrote:
People here need their dim view on reality reassured. They need an excuse, one driven by selfishness, to explain why someone would vote for this girl because they are far too pathetic of human beings to do it themselves.


Couldn't have said it better
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ManBearPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Belgium207 Posts
October 21 2008 11:08 GMT
#99
How does everyone think this is a pity vote?
People with Down's syndrome can be really lovable, they have a kind of child-like innocence that can be very endearing. When you get past their appearance, and actually spend a lot of time with them, I bet there's not a lot of people who could actually have anything against them. This girl in particular seems less 'mentally retarded' than normal people with Down's syndrome (seeing as she's functioning well at a normal high school? could be wrong here), so it's possible she could actually have meaningful conversations with other students, causing those students to acknowledge how endearingly happy and innocent she is.
Saying they looked 'past the disease and loved her as a person' doesn't sound right though, seeing as not only her appearance but also her personality is affected by her disability. So yeah Down's syndrome people can be really lovable, it's really hard to hate someone who's that happy and innocent, so it's actually plausible to think she could have a lot of friends.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 21 2008 13:07 GMT
#100
^Not to mention none of us know what she or her classmates are actually like. You're all just assuming "generic highschool kids looks down upon generic kid with downs syndrome" which obviously is not the case here.
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