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On October 19 2008 15:13 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2008 14:29 ilovezil wrote:On October 19 2008 14:24 iheartgna wrote:On October 19 2008 14:11 Empyrean wrote:On October 19 2008 14:02 iheartgna wrote:
That is so pathetic.
Edit: I decided to explain. Chastising someone with disabilities just magnifies their ailment. Shit, I've never seen an unhappy kid with down syndrome, they could have just bought her a lollipop. I think what the article was getting at was that there are people who can look past outside disabilities and see through to the person on the inside. That the senior class can see past someone's Down Syndrome is something to be commended. Do you think any of them consider her their friend? Though, that may say nothing about the class because I imagine she is incapable of having real "friends." Homecoming Queen is supposed to be the face of your school. If you looked at a catalog of schools with only their name and a picture of their Homecoming Queen would you want that girl next to your school? The way I see it, there's already enough places out there advertising for their own personal gains. What's so interesting about this article's school is that it's not all about the pretty faces or outward appearance. I think it's great that there's a place out there that exists like this school. It doesn't. They probably voted for her because "oh my goodness! Let's make her feel good because she has down syndrome!" It's not, "Wow, she's a really amazing person, and the way she looks shouldn't be the deciding factor of who gets to be homecoming queen." It was a pity vote. I can imagine kids in high school all going around and telling each other to vote for her to make her feel good/important/special. I'm not saying it's a bad thing that she was voted homecoming queen or anything, it was nice of the students to do so. But to think that they actually looked beyond superficiality is ridiculous. I think it's just a matter of a student body wanting to make themselves feel better about themselves for not being so superficial, which makes them superficial.
my thoughts exactly.
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On October 19 2008 15:13 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2008 14:29 ilovezil wrote:On October 19 2008 14:24 iheartgna wrote:On October 19 2008 14:11 Empyrean wrote:On October 19 2008 14:02 iheartgna wrote:
That is so pathetic.
Edit: I decided to explain. Chastising someone with disabilities just magnifies their ailment. Shit, I've never seen an unhappy kid with down syndrome, they could have just bought her a lollipop. I think what the article was getting at was that there are people who can look past outside disabilities and see through to the person on the inside. That the senior class can see past someone's Down Syndrome is something to be commended. Do you think any of them consider her their friend? Though, that may say nothing about the class because I imagine she is incapable of having real "friends." Homecoming Queen is supposed to be the face of your school. If you looked at a catalog of schools with only their name and a picture of their Homecoming Queen would you want that girl next to your school? The way I see it, there's already enough places out there advertising for their own personal gains. What's so interesting about this article's school is that it's not all about the pretty faces or outward appearance. I think it's great that there's a place out there that exists like this school. It doesn't. They probably voted for her because "oh my goodness! Let's make her feel good because she has down syndrome!" It's not, "Wow, she's a really amazing person, and the way she looks shouldn't be the deciding factor of who gets to be homecoming queen." It was a pity vote. I can imagine kids in high school all going around and telling each other to vote for her to make her feel good/important/special. I'm not saying it's a bad thing that she was voted homecoming queen or anything, it was nice of the students to do so. But to think that they actually looked beyond superficiality is ridiculous. I think it's just a matter of a student body wanting to make themselves feel better about themselves for not being so superficial, which makes them superficial. If you follow what I'm saying. I have no proof to back this up at all, I'm just basing it on personal experience (not just what happened to me, but what I saw happen other places/still see in other places).
This is more than likely true, but if it's not the story still stands as being amazing.
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I think the point is, whatever the fucking reason they had to vote for her, its still amazing she won, and that people turned the "fuck it, vote for her" button in theyr minds when the time came.
When you think about it, they could have just voted for her for the sake of not giving a flying shit.
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On October 19 2008 16:07 D10 wrote:
I think the point is, whatever the fucking reason they had to vote for her, its still amazing she won...
I don't understand why this is amazing.
On a whim, the majority of students probably didn't care about who the queen would be. In our high school, when we didn't care about something that we had to participate in, we just went along with the general consensus. So a few girls in the grade decide that it would be "neat" to have this girl win the contest, and eventually the idea just spreads throughout the apathetic majority.
I'm not saying I disagree with the outcome, but to call it "amazing" or "great" is pointless. Especially in my mind, when I haven't met a person that's deliberately rude to someone with down syndrome.
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i totally agree with sweetlemons[tl;dr]
although, i'm curious, there's a girl at my work who has down's syndrome who is really awesome, but if someone acted like her and didn't have downs syndrome i would probably think she's pretty annoying. i wonder, it's not superficial to cut someone more slack on their social tendencies if they have down's syndrome, is it? even if it goes aww when lisa does that it's cute, but when caitie talks i just want to backhand that annoying dumbass bitch GOD STFU CAITIE I DON'T CARE
like when she talks about johnny depp all the time and calls him "john", that makes me laugh because it's qt but if caitie said that would i tune her out until she stopped talking, hopefully forever?
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On October 19 2008 14:02 iheartgna wrote:
That is so pathetic.
Edit: I decided to explain. Chastising someone with disabilities just magnifies their ailment. Shit, I've never seen an unhappy kid with down syndrome, they could have just bought her a lollipop.
Clearly she is more than a 'kid with down syndrome.' They love her, they think she deserves to be homecoming queen. The social scientists of teamliquid have posited many theories but in the end, what the fuck is wrong with kindness and love? I wish I could smile to every person I talk to in a day, and I try to. Stop forsaking joy; embrace kindness and please everyone smile.
btw you're a cunt.
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I also think it's pathetic to pick her. It's basically out of sympathy. But you surpass the whole goal. I mean sympathy is great and all, but homecoming queen is supposed to be for popular and pretty girls. (Yes that's how it effectively works out) So when you start picking a 'retarded' person for homecoming queen you are basically saying aawh look it's so sad for her let's pick her to something she isn't supposed to be! I mean I would feel retarded if I were her.
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On October 20 2008 00:52 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
I also think it's pathetic to pick her. It's basically out of sympathy. But you surpass the whole goal. I mean sympathy is great and all, but homecoming queen is supposed to be for popular and pretty girls. (Yes that's how it effectively works out) So when you start picking a 'retarded' person for homecoming queen you are basically saying aawh look it's so sad for her let's pick her to something she isn't supposed to be! I mean I would feel retarded if I were her.
Who by their own virtue is born 'retarded' or 'beautiful?' Infact, who asks to be born at all. What assessment of anyone is not arbitrary? In the end all the matters is the contrast between pain and satisfaction in our lifes. Joy and kindness can satisfy near any soul (just try them out) and I think there can be no pain or anguish in voting a person you all love homecoming queen or just smiling as you say goodbye to a stranger.
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I'm not really familiar with the homecoming queens, prom king/queens and all of that, but is this stuff really big? i mean is this something you remember for years or is it just a "funny thing" people talk about for 1-2days?
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On October 20 2008 01:18 grobo wrote:
I'm not really familiar with the homecoming queens, prom king/queens and all of that, but is this stuff really big? i mean is this something you remember for years or is it just a "funny thing" people talk about for 1-2days?
it all depends on the school/town. I'd imagine in 97.22% White (rich) town in Texas it is a fairly large deal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aledo,_Texas
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Sympathy votes to winning something what you are totally not is retarded. No matter how sentimental you make it. Well yeah good for her.
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On October 20 2008 01:20 Wysp wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2008 01:18 grobo wrote:
I'm not really familiar with the homecoming queens, prom king/queens and all of that, but is this stuff really big? i mean is this something you remember for years or is it just a "funny thing" people talk about for 1-2days? it all depends on the school/town. I'd imagine in 97.22% White (rich) town in Texas it is a fairly large deal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aledo,_Texas
basically simliar to my town, replace texas with michigan. nobody really cares after it happens...you just vote during lunch and then at the homecoming game they announce you. i guess if you're on it its pretty cool otherwise you dont really care. Nobody really talks about it other than "who was queen/king again?" "oh cool" and thats it.
On October 19 2008 15:13 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2008 14:29 ilovezil wrote:On October 19 2008 14:24 iheartgna wrote:On October 19 2008 14:11 Empyrean wrote:On October 19 2008 14:02 iheartgna wrote:
That is so pathetic.
Edit: I decided to explain. Chastising someone with disabilities just magnifies their ailment. Shit, I've never seen an unhappy kid with down syndrome, they could have just bought her a lollipop. I think what the article was getting at was that there are people who can look past outside disabilities and see through to the person on the inside. That the senior class can see past someone's Down Syndrome is something to be commended. Do you think any of them consider her their friend? Though, that may say nothing about the class because I imagine she is incapable of having real "friends." Homecoming Queen is supposed to be the face of your school. If you looked at a catalog of schools with only their name and a picture of their Homecoming Queen would you want that girl next to your school? The way I see it, there's already enough places out there advertising for their own personal gains. What's so interesting about this article's school is that it's not all about the pretty faces or outward appearance. I think it's great that there's a place out there that exists like this school. It doesn't. They probably voted for her because "oh my goodness! Let's make her feel good because she has down syndrome!" It's not, "Wow, she's a really amazing person, and the way she looks shouldn't be the deciding factor of who gets to be homecoming queen." It was a pity vote. I can imagine kids in high school all going around and telling each other to vote for her to make her feel good/important/special. I'm not saying it's a bad thing that she was voted homecoming queen or anything, it was nice of the students to do so. But to think that they actually looked beyond superficiality is ridiculous. I think it's just a matter of a student body wanting to make themselves feel better about themselves for not being so superficial, which makes them superficial. If you follow what I'm saying. I have no proof to back this up at all, I'm just basing it on personal experience (not just what happened to me, but what I saw happen other places/still see in other places).
QFT
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On October 20 2008 01:18 grobo wrote:
I'm not really familiar with the homecoming queens, prom king/queens and all of that, but is this stuff really big? i mean is this something you remember for years or is it just a "funny thing" people talk about for 1-2days?
Depends on the school and the clique that you're a part of. I know that in my school and all the schools in the area, no one cares at all except the "popular" girls (and it isn't even that big of a deal for them).
As far as I know, it's some fun for those chosen to be on the court, but nothing special.
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I think the few people that campaigned for her to be home coming queen did genuniely care about her as a person and I applaud them for looking past her illness. But the rest of the people that voted for her did it out of pity in order not to look bad in front of their friends that did vote for her.
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She is hideous, the fuck?
Obviously, it was a pity vote. Like someone else said, Homecoming Kings and Queens are supposed to be attractive, that's how it works everywhere. It's nothing but a fucking image contest.
And Goddamn is her forehead huge too.
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Hrmmm i read about this a week or so ago...I live around the area. Nice to know there's some kids nowadays that have some sort of heart.
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On October 19 2008 14:02 iheartgna wrote:
That is so pathetic.
Edit: I decided to explain. Chastising someone with disabilities just magnifies their ailment. Shit, I've never seen an unhappy kid with down syndrome, they could have just bought her a lollipop.
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Wow, you guys are cynical. I think whether or not she truly is popular with people(something we have no reason to doubt) or if this was a pity vote, is irrelevant. Either way the people in her high school have been "big" enough to prevent this from being a bigger disadvantage than it already is by putting her on the same social level, so to speak. For a bunch of high school kids, I think that is impressive.
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