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a-game
Canada5129 Posts
On November 04 2008 02:15 Jibba wrote: I know that was posted in the old Primaries thread, but that talk is really amazing and anyone that's worked on the campaign will greatly appreciate it. yeah that video is one of the few glimpses into obama with his guard down nice time to repost it | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On November 04 2008 02:32 oneofthem wrote: jibba, which state is your obama campaign in I'm in MI. I'm not officially working for it anymore but I was during the summer. Now I'm just volunteering a bit. | ||
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Hans-Titan
Denmark1711 Posts
I know this from an Obama video and I'm certain the Dems are applying the same dirty strategies, but really? I've never heard of a truly democratic country where the parties genuinely misinform people in order to win. Is it really so bad?  | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
obama flips off mccain? lol | ||
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Jusciax
Lithuania588 Posts
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
On November 04 2008 03:39 BlackJack wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBMdWxcFXQg obama flips off mccain? lol What's pathetic is that Drudge has this as his headline, as if Obama really did flick him off. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
On November 04 2008 03:39 BlackJack wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBMdWxcFXQg obama flips off mccain? lol fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck how dumb can people be | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
On November 04 2008 04:17 TeCh)PsylO wrote: What's pathetic is that Drudge has this as his headline, as if Obama really did flick him off. Actually that is pretty sad. I am anti-Obama, but the fact that Drudge put that on his page is pathetic. EDIT: Interestingly, the LATimes also reported this and another incident where he supposedly flipped off Hillary. Article: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/obamaflipsoffcl.html And the video. I think they are both crap. Everyone does that from time to time when scratching an itch. | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
"Though bright and talented, John Kennedy was underqualified for the presidency in 1960. He did so miserably against Khrushchev at their meetings in Vienna that the Russian premier was emboldened to test the obviously inexperienced young president with what became the Cuban Missile Crisis. Yet John Kennedy was a seasoned pro by Barack Obama standards. Kennedy had been in combat, performing heroically after his boat went down. Kennedy served 14 years in the House and Senate (Barack Obama has yet to serve four) and ran on a pledge to cut taxes -- which he actually did! Next to the experience of John F. Kennedy -- whose inexperience rendered him a not terribly effective president -- Obama is a mere short-pants schoolchild." http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/33714474.html | ||
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Flaccid
8894 Posts
On November 04 2008 05:16 Savio wrote: A quote I liked from an article: "Though bright and talented, John Kennedy was underqualified for the presidency in 1960. He did so miserably against Khrushchev at their meetings in Vienna that the Russian premier was emboldened to test the obviously inexperienced young president with what became the Cuban Missile Crisis. Yet John Kennedy was a seasoned pro by Barack Obama standards. Kennedy had been in combat, performing heroically after his boat went down. Kennedy served 14 years in the House and Senate (Barack Obama has yet to serve four) and ran on a pledge to cut taxes -- which he actually did! Next to the experience of John F. Kennedy -- whose inexperience rendered him a not terribly effective president -- Obama is a mere short-pants schoolchild." http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/33714474.html Please explain to me why the ideological right has such a hard time remembering that context is actually something important and worth considering. edit: To further explain, I'd say the above quote has as little merit as the Lincoln comparisons. But both serve their purpose to the easily misinformed when historical context and relevance is completely ignored. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
seriously you americans and obsession with war veterans is truly rediculous | ||
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
On November 04 2008 04:41 Frits wrote: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck how dumb can people be Haha, remind me of the Seinfeld episode where they think the waitress is flipping them off every time she points at the menu. | ||
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Flaccid
8894 Posts
Shit like: Does flying a jet fighter make you a great commander of men? Not necessarily. But if war threatens, John McCain knows what it is to throw young men into harm's way. Yet their experience wheeling and dealing with crooked lobbyists inside the Beltway make Barack Obama and Joe Biden "better qualified" to judge a proper strategy to respond to a surprise attack on a U.S. base overseas? How is that even relevant? Neither John McCain nor Barack Obama are qualified to create the best response strategy. The difference is fundamental in how these two will approach leadership. Obama will find he who is most qualified to formulate that response and have him on his staff. He will listen to him, deliberately and methodically, and with the help of his advisers formulate the best plan. This is how he works - by realizing he doesn't have all of the answers and listening to those who might. War time is not a time for knee-jerk reactions. It's a time for careful deliberation and detailed planning. It's a time to be thoughtful, not a time to be mavericky. This entire article is bullshit. edit: Seriously: I have only one marginally effective way to tell those who have spent the past three months libeling and trashing Sarah Palin -- and with her, every "regular American" who owns a gun or goes to church and lives outside their oh-so-correct urban enclaves of Washington, New York, Atlanta and Los Angeles -- where to shove it. And that's to vote against the communist sympathizer who would make legally owned self-defense weapons as rare as whooping cranes, and for a true American hero -- to vote a Republican presidential ticket for the first time in my life. Is this satire? So now he's a communist sympathizer? Now he's against firearms? looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
On November 04 2008 05:36 Flaccid wrote: Holy fuck, that article Savio posted is an insult to even the basest of intelligence. Shit like: Really, after the shit he's been through, you'd think McCain would be the one who'd be a tad bit less war hawkish. Electing him is going to extend the Iraq joke and lead us to other fun little invasions. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Flaccid
8894 Posts
On November 04 2008 06:13 Hawk wrote: Really, after the shit he's been through, you'd think McCain would be the one who'd be a tad bit less war hawkish. Electing him is going to extend the Iraq joke and lead us to other fun little invasions. Little known fact: McCain chose Sarah Palin because of her unique knowledge of the boundary between the state of Alaska and Canada's Yukon Territories. A knowledge that becomes particularly relevant when one realizes that it is from Alaska where John McCain intends to stage his invasion of Canada in order to take our oilz. You heard it here first. Lucky for us that while better equipped, the US Military will meet the same fate that met the Germans when they attempted to push into the USSR in WWII - inevitably bludgeoned to death by baby seal hunters. | ||
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a-game
Canada5129 Posts
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama_grandmother | ||
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yoshtodd
United States418 Posts
On November 04 2008 06:46 a-game wrote: obama's grandma just died, what strange timing. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama_grandmother It's a good thing he came and visited her at least... how sad, one day before the election. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On November 04 2008 05:16 Savio wrote: A quote I liked from an article: "Though bright and talented, John Kennedy was underqualified for the presidency in 1960. He did so miserably against Khrushchev at their meetings in Vienna that the Russian premier was emboldened to test the obviously inexperienced young president with what became the Cuban Missile Crisis. Yet John Kennedy was a seasoned pro by Barack Obama standards. Kennedy had been in combat, performing heroically after his boat went down. Kennedy served 14 years in the House and Senate (Barack Obama has yet to serve four) and ran on a pledge to cut taxes -- which he actually did! Next to the experience of John F. Kennedy -- whose inexperience rendered him a not terribly effective president -- Obama is a mere short-pants schoolchild." http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/33714474.html It was really the Bay of Pigs that prepared Kennedy for the Cuban Missile Crisis. There's really a stark difference in the way he ran the crisis committees, and it's clear he learned quite a bit between the two incidents. So don't assume Khrushchev was Kennedy's first test in office. | ||
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