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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
November 03 2008 17:34 GMT
#1481
On November 04 2008 02:15 Jibba wrote:


I know that was posted in the old Primaries thread, but that talk is really amazing and anyone that's worked on the campaign will greatly appreciate it.

yeah that video is one of the few glimpses into obama with his guard down

nice time to repost it
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
November 03 2008 17:46 GMT
#1482
On November 04 2008 02:32 oneofthem wrote:
jibba, which state is your obama campaign in

I'm in MI. I'm not officially working for it anymore but I was during the summer. Now I'm just volunteering a bit.
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Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
November 03 2008 18:21 GMT
#1483


I know this from an Obama video and I'm certain the Dems are applying the same dirty strategies, but really? I've never heard of a truly democratic country where the parties genuinely misinform people in order to win. Is it really so bad?
Trying is the first step towards failure, and hope is the first step towards disappointment!
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
November 03 2008 18:39 GMT
#1484


obama flips off mccain? lol
Jusciax
Profile Joined August 2007
Lithuania588 Posts
November 03 2008 19:15 GMT
#1485
Yea, doing absolutely anything with middle finger is a flip off now...
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
November 03 2008 19:17 GMT
#1486
On November 04 2008 03:39 BlackJack wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBMdWxcFXQg

obama flips off mccain? lol



What's pathetic is that Drudge has this as his headline, as if Obama really did flick him off.
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
November 03 2008 19:35 GMT
#1487
It's definitely unusual for his demeanor. It's possibly just fatigue setting in.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
November 03 2008 19:41 GMT
#1488
On November 04 2008 03:39 BlackJack wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBMdWxcFXQg

obama flips off mccain? lol


fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck how dumb can people be
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 20:06:00
November 03 2008 19:49 GMT
#1489
On November 04 2008 04:17 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2008 03:39 BlackJack wrote:

obama flips off mccain? lol



What's pathetic is that Drudge has this as his headline, as if Obama really did flick him off.



Actually that is pretty sad. I am anti-Obama, but the fact that Drudge put that on his page is pathetic.


EDIT:

Interestingly, the LATimes also reported this and another incident where he supposedly flipped off Hillary.

Article: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/obamaflipsoffcl.html

And the video.


I think they are both crap. Everyone does that from time to time when scratching an itch.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 20:17:12
November 03 2008 20:16 GMT
#1490
A quote I liked from an article:


"Though bright and talented, John Kennedy was underqualified for the presidency in 1960. He did so miserably against Khrushchev at their meetings in Vienna that the Russian premier was emboldened to test the obviously inexperienced young president with what became the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Yet John Kennedy was a seasoned pro by Barack Obama standards. Kennedy had been in combat, performing heroically after his boat went down. Kennedy served 14 years in the House and Senate (Barack Obama has yet to serve four) and ran on a pledge to cut taxes -- which he actually did! Next to the experience of John F. Kennedy -- whose inexperience rendered him a not terribly effective president -- Obama is a mere short-pants schoolchild."

http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/33714474.html
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8866 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 20:25:19
November 03 2008 20:23 GMT
#1491
On November 04 2008 05:16 Savio wrote:
A quote I liked from an article:


"Though bright and talented, John Kennedy was underqualified for the presidency in 1960. He did so miserably against Khrushchev at their meetings in Vienna that the Russian premier was emboldened to test the obviously inexperienced young president with what became the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Yet John Kennedy was a seasoned pro by Barack Obama standards. Kennedy had been in combat, performing heroically after his boat went down. Kennedy served 14 years in the House and Senate (Barack Obama has yet to serve four) and ran on a pledge to cut taxes -- which he actually did! Next to the experience of John F. Kennedy -- whose inexperience rendered him a not terribly effective president -- Obama is a mere short-pants schoolchild."

http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/33714474.html


Please explain to me why the ideological right has such a hard time remembering that context is actually something important and worth considering.

edit: To further explain, I'd say the above quote has as little merit as the Lincoln comparisons. But both serve their purpose to the easily misinformed when historical context and relevance is completely ignored.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
November 03 2008 20:25 GMT
#1492
didnt know performing heroically after your boat gets shot down was in the job description

seriously you americans and obsession with war veterans is truly rediculous
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
November 03 2008 20:29 GMT
#1493
On November 04 2008 04:41 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2008 03:39 BlackJack wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBMdWxcFXQg

obama flips off mccain? lol


fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck how dumb can people be



Haha, remind me of the Seinfeld episode where they think the waitress is flipping them off every time she points at the menu.
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8866 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 20:39:24
November 03 2008 20:36 GMT
#1494
Holy fuck, that article Savio posted is an insult to even the basest of intelligence.

Shit like:

Does flying a jet fighter make you a great commander of men? Not necessarily. But if war threatens, John McCain knows what it is to throw young men into harm's way. Yet their experience wheeling and dealing with crooked lobbyists inside the Beltway make Barack Obama and Joe Biden "better qualified" to judge a proper strategy to respond to a surprise attack on a U.S. base overseas?


How is that even relevant? Neither John McCain nor Barack Obama are qualified to create the best response strategy.

The difference is fundamental in how these two will approach leadership. Obama will find he who is most qualified to formulate that response and have him on his staff. He will listen to him, deliberately and methodically, and with the help of his advisers formulate the best plan. This is how he works - by realizing he doesn't have all of the answers and listening to those who might. War time is not a time for knee-jerk reactions. It's a time for careful deliberation and detailed planning. It's a time to be thoughtful, not a time to be mavericky.

This entire article is bullshit.

edit:

Seriously:

I have only one marginally effective way to tell those who have spent the past three months libeling and trashing Sarah Palin -- and with her, every "regular American" who owns a gun or goes to church and lives outside their oh-so-correct urban enclaves of Washington, New York, Atlanta and Los Angeles -- where to shove it. And that's to vote against the communist sympathizer who would make legally owned self-defense weapons as rare as whooping cranes, and for a true American hero -- to vote a Republican presidential ticket for the first time in my life.


Is this satire?

So now he's a communist sympathizer?

Now he's against firearms?

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32108 Posts
November 03 2008 21:13 GMT
#1495
On November 04 2008 05:36 Flaccid wrote:
Holy fuck, that article Savio posted is an insult to even the basest of intelligence.

Shit like:

Show nested quote +
Does flying a jet fighter make you a great commander of men? Not necessarily. But if war threatens, John McCain knows what it is to throw young men into harm's way. Yet their experience wheeling and dealing with crooked lobbyists inside the Beltway make Barack Obama and Joe Biden "better qualified" to judge a proper strategy to respond to a surprise attack on a U.S. base overseas?


Really, after the shit he's been through, you'd think McCain would be the one who'd be a tad bit less war hawkish. Electing him is going to extend the Iraq joke and lead us to other fun little invasions.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 03 2008 21:34 GMT
#1496
what would i do without people who ridicule federal funding for basic science on constitutional grounds!
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8866 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 21:48:22
November 03 2008 21:46 GMT
#1497
On November 04 2008 06:13 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2008 05:36 Flaccid wrote:
Holy fuck, that article Savio posted is an insult to even the basest of intelligence.

Shit like:

Does flying a jet fighter make you a great commander of men? Not necessarily. But if war threatens, John McCain knows what it is to throw young men into harm's way. Yet their experience wheeling and dealing with crooked lobbyists inside the Beltway make Barack Obama and Joe Biden "better qualified" to judge a proper strategy to respond to a surprise attack on a U.S. base overseas?


Really, after the shit he's been through, you'd think McCain would be the one who'd be a tad bit less war hawkish. Electing him is going to extend the Iraq joke and lead us to other fun little invasions.


Little known fact:

McCain chose Sarah Palin because of her unique knowledge of the boundary between the state of Alaska and Canada's Yukon Territories. A knowledge that becomes particularly relevant when one realizes that it is from Alaska where John McCain intends to stage his invasion of Canada in order to take our oilz.

You heard it here first.

Lucky for us that while better equipped, the US Military will meet the same fate that met the Germans when they attempted to push into the USSR in WWII - inevitably bludgeoned to death by baby seal hunters.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 21:54:56
November 03 2008 21:46 GMT
#1498
obama's grandma just died, what strange timing.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama_grandmother
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
yoshtodd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States418 Posts
November 03 2008 22:03 GMT
#1499
On November 04 2008 06:46 a-game wrote:
obama's grandma just died, what strange timing.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama_grandmother


It's a good thing he came and visited her at least... how sad, one day before the election.
moo
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 22:05:24
November 03 2008 22:03 GMT
#1500
On November 04 2008 05:16 Savio wrote:
A quote I liked from an article:


"Though bright and talented, John Kennedy was underqualified for the presidency in 1960. He did so miserably against Khrushchev at their meetings in Vienna that the Russian premier was emboldened to test the obviously inexperienced young president with what became the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Yet John Kennedy was a seasoned pro by Barack Obama standards. Kennedy had been in combat, performing heroically after his boat went down. Kennedy served 14 years in the House and Senate (Barack Obama has yet to serve four) and ran on a pledge to cut taxes -- which he actually did! Next to the experience of John F. Kennedy -- whose inexperience rendered him a not terribly effective president -- Obama is a mere short-pants schoolchild."

http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/33714474.html

It was really the Bay of Pigs that prepared Kennedy for the Cuban Missile Crisis.

There's really a stark difference in the way he ran the crisis committees, and it's clear he learned quite a bit between the two incidents. So don't assume Khrushchev was Kennedy's first test in office.
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