On November 04 2008 17:39 Phoned wrote:
What is wrong with giving McCain the finger? I'd do it.
What is wrong with giving McCain the finger? I'd do it.
He's a decent guy, it's just the people around him are all dicks.
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On November 04 2008 17:39 Phoned wrote: What is wrong with giving McCain the finger? I'd do it. He's a decent guy, it's just the people around him are all dicks. | ||
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Wysp
Canada2299 Posts
That article is a piece of fear mongering. "Obama could hurt race relations," "Obama has a personality disorder." These are statements designed to scare you. It also uses the suggestion of scientific background to give them their edge. Both of these candidates have been scrutinized to the teeth, you can essentially read their entire life story. John McCain has been a POW (a group with ailing health, including noticablely decreased mental health.) Not to mention his age, which increases the likelihood of developing mental illness. Its not uncommon for this type of high risk man, as many men in similar risks groups of mental illness have become president (libraries have been written on this shit.) All I'm saying is if you were to access the candidates on the risk of their mental health deteriating, McCain would be the loser. This is also why its so important who his vice pornographer (ehm, I mean president) is. P.S. Even your name suggests you think about fear. | ||
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Arbiter[frolix]
United Kingdom2674 Posts
The article linked to regarding Obama's supposed use of hynosis, cunningly hidden in "ordinary speech", is tin foil hat and black helicopter stuff. Really odd. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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Locke.
Israel562 Posts
In a way Obama reminds me a lot of the Mule from the Foundation trilogy by Asimov. It has to be admitted he has an amazing abillity of manipulating emotions and subconcious thoughts. | ||
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Sadist
United States7291 Posts
On November 04 2008 19:15 BlackJack wrote: I think given how good of a public speaker Obama is, you will find very few, if any, instances of him touching his face while giving a speech, or ignoring the crowd when they begin to boo what he is saying. It's funny that both times I've witnessed that, he was rubbing his face with his middle finger lol ya, it must just be a habbit of doing it though, My Thermo professor from Germany constantly points at things with his middle finger.....a coincidence perhaps????? ![]() | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On November 04 2008 16:55 fight_or_flight wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2008 04:49 Savio wrote: On November 04 2008 04:17 TeCh)PsylO wrote: On November 04 2008 03:39 BlackJack wrote: obama flips off mccain? lol What's pathetic is that Drudge has this as his headline, as if Obama really did flick him off. Actually that is pretty sad. I am anti-Obama, but the fact that Drudge put that on his page is pathetic. EDIT: Interestingly, the LATimes also reported this and another incident where he supposedly flipped off Hillary. Article: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/obamaflipsoffcl.html And the video. I think they are both crap. Everyone does that from time to time when scratching an itch. I think he knew exactly what he was doing in both cases. Notice how both times he pauses mid sentence when talking about his opponent. In that video you posted it was so obvious to the crowd that they started booing him. It may seem like nothing, but when you take into account the hypnosis that Obama has employed throughout his campaign, you start to get a picture of a narcissistic and manipulative individual. http://freerepublic.info/focus/f-news/2110606/posts + Show Spoiler + Understanding Obama: The Making of a Fuehrer By Ali Sina I must confess, I was not impressed by Sen. Barack Obama from the first time I saw him. At first I was excited to see a black candidate. He looked youthful, spoke well, appeared to be confident, a wholesome presidential package. I was put off soon, not just because of his shallowness but also because there was an air of haughtiness in his demeanor that was unsettling. His posture and his body language were louder than his empty words. Obama’s speeches are unlike any political speech we have heard in American history. Never a politician in this land had such a quasi “religious” impact on so many people. The fact that Obama is a total incognito with zero accomplishment makes this inexplicable infatuation alarming. Obama is not an ordinary man. He is not a genius. In fact, he is quite ignorant on most important subjects. Barack Obama is a narcissist. Dr. Sam Vaknin, the author of “Malignant Self Love,” also believes, “Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist.” Vaknin is a world authority on narcissism. He understands narcissism and describes the inner mind of a narcissist like no other person. When he talks about narcissism everyone listens. Vaknin says that Obama’s language, posture and demeanor, and the testimonies of his closest, dearest and nearest suggest that the Senator is either a narcissist or he may have narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). Narcissists project a grandiose but false image of themselves. Jim Jones, the charismatic leader of People’s Temple, the man who led over 900 of his followers to cheerfully commit mass suicide and even murder their own children was also a narcissist. Charles Manson, Joseph Koni, Shoko Asahara, Joe Stalin, Saddam, Mao Zedong, Kim Jong IL, and Adolph Hitler are a few examples of narcissists of our time. All these men had a tremendous influence over their fanciers and followers. They created a personality cult around themselves, and with their blazing speeches elevated their admirer’s souls, filled their hearts with enthusiasm and instilled in their minds a new zest for life. Those men gave their followers hope! They promised them the moon, but alas, they invariably brought them to their doom. When you are a victim of a cult of personality, you don't know it until it is too late. One determining factor in the development of NPD is childhood abuse. “Obama’s early life was decidedly chaotic and replete with traumatic and mentally bruising dislocations,” says Vaknin. “Mixed-race marriages were even less common then. His parents went through a divorce when he was an infant (two years old). Obama saw his father only once again, before he died in a car accident. His mother re-married and Obama had to relocate to Indonesia, a foreign land with a radically foreign culture, to be raised by a stepfather. He was raised as an only child, full of himself and no others. He never had to share the spotlight with any siblings. At the age of ten, he was whisked off to live with his maternal (white) grandparents. He saw his mother only intermittently in the following few years and then she vanished from his life in 1979. She died of cancer in 1995.” One must never underestimate the manipulative genius of pathological narcissists. (Pathology: something abnormal, such as disease.) They project such an imposing personality that it overwhelms those around them. Charmed by the charisma of the narcissist, people become like clay in his hands. They cheerfully do his bidding and delight to be at his service. The narcissist shapes the world around him and reduces others in his own inverted image. He creates a cult of personality; his admirers become his co-dependents. Narcissists have no interest in things that do not help them to reach their personal objectives. They are focused on one thing alone, and that is power. All other issues are meaningless to them and they do not want to waste their precious time on trivialities. Anything that does not help them is beneath them and does not deserve their attention. If an issue raised in the Senate does not help Obama in one way or another, he has no interest in it. The “Present” vote is a safe vote; he used the “Present” all the time as a member of the Illinois legislature. No one can criticize him if things go wrong. Why should he implicate himself in issues that may become controversial when they don’t help him personally? Those issues are unworthy by their very nature because they are not about him. Obama’s election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review led to a contract and an advance to write a book about race relations. The University of Chicago Law School provided him with a fellowship and an office to work on his book. The book took him a lot longer than expected and at the end it devolved into…, guess what? His own autobiography! Instead of writing a scholarly paper focusing on race relations, for which he had been paid, Obama could not resist writing about his most sublime self. He entitled the book “Dreams from My Father.” Not surprisingly, Adolph Hitler also wrote his own autobiography when he was still nobody. So did Stalin. For a narcissist no subject is as important as his own self. Why would he waste his precious time and genius writing about insignificant things when he can write about such an august being as himself? Narcissists are often callous and even ruthless. As the norm, they lack conscience. This is evident from Obama’s lack of interest in his own brother who lives on only one dollar per month. A man who lives in luxury, who takes a private jet to vacation in Hawaii, and who has raised nearly a half billion dollars for his campaign (something unprecedented in history) has no interest in the plight of his own brother. Why? His brother cannot be used for his ascent to power. A narcissist cares for no one but himself. This election is like no other election in the history of America. The issues are insignificant compared to what is at stake. What can be more dangerous than having a man bereft of a conscience, a serial liar, and one who cannot distinguish his fantasies from reality as the leader of the free world? I hate to sound alarmist, but one must be a fool if one is not alarmed. Many politicians are narcissists. They pose no threat to others. They are simply self-serving and selfish. [Witness Al Gore’s Income Tax; it reveals that he gave away NO MONEY to charities, not even to a church!] Obama evinces symptoms of pathological narcissism, which is different from the run-of-the-mill narcissism of a Richard Nixon or Bill Clinton, for example. To him reality and fantasy are intertwined. This is a mental health issue, not just a character flaw. Pathological narcissists are dangerous because they look normal and even intelligent. It is this disguise that makes them treacherous. [Look up the word ‘treachery.’] Today the Democrats have placed all their hopes in Obama. But this man could put an end to their party [and to this great nation]. The great majority of blacks have also decided to vote for Obama. Only a fool does not know that their support for him is racially driven. Let us call a spade a spade [No pun intended.]. This is racism, pure and simple. The truth is that, while everyone carries a misconceived collective guilt towards blacks for wrongs done centuries ago by a bygone people to a bygone people, the blacks carry a collective rancor, enmity or vendetta towards non-blacks, and to this day want to “stand up” to the white man. They seem to be stuck in 19th century [encourage by race baiters like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and others]. The downside of this is, that if Obama turns out to be the disaster I predict, he will cause widespread resentment among the whites. The blacks are unlikely to give up their support of their man. Cultic mentality is pernicious and unrelenting. They will dig their heads deeper in the sand and blame Obama’s detractors of racism. This will cause a backlash among the whites. The white supremacists will take advantage of the discontent and they will receive widespread support. I predict that in less than four years, racial tensions will increase to levels not seen since the turbulent 1960s. Obama will set the clock back decades. America is the bastion of freedom. The peace of the world depends on the strength of America, and its weakness translates into the triumph of terrorism and victory of rogue nations. It is no wonder that Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez, the Maoist Castroists, the Hezbollah, the Hamas, the lawyers of the Guantanamo terrorists, and virtually all sworn enemies of America are so thrilled by the prospect of “their man” in the White House. America is on the verge of destruction. There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological narcissist as president. He gets away with it because its so ridiculous that people can't even bring it up. But thats what we've been dealing with for the last 8 years, haven't we? Bush has been so blatantly breaking the law that people can't even accuse him without being laughed at. Things are getting surreal. You are an idiot. I don't know if you've had brain damage from falling into drywall, but this is on par with anything gwho has ever written. You have no knowledge on any of the stuff you write about except what you've read on a .info website. People are constantly calling you out and mocking you for these ridiculous fallacies and inconsistencies but somehow you manage to completely ignore them and continue undeterred in your ridiculous fantasies with extremist shitforbrains like Ali Sina. It means you're persistent, but it also means you're an imbecile. | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On November 04 2008 19:15 BlackJack wrote: eh, I don't see anything wrong with that. My dad (and everyone on his side of the family) scratches/rubs his face with his middle finger all the time and points with his middle finger as well.I think given how good of a public speaker Obama is, you will find very few, if any, instances of him touching his face while giving a speech, or ignoring the crowd when they begin to boo what he is saying. It's funny that both times I've witnessed that, he was rubbing his face with his middle finger lol | ||
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Meiya
Australia1169 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32089 Posts
On November 04 2008 19:07 Arbiter[frolix] wrote: Hypnosis? Hilarious. The article linked to regarding Obama's supposed use of hynosis, cunningly hidden in "ordinary speech", is tin foil hat and black helicopter stuff. Really odd. Yeah, really. I'd expect that from liberals, not conservatives. | ||
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Flaccid
8850 Posts
As in the same site that claims Obama killed his grandmother for political points?? Now that is surreal. | ||
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Locke.
Israel562 Posts
I think he is by far the better candidate, if I were American I would vote for him in this election.. However you can't deny he has amazing control over people's emotions. Some of the things in that article make a lot of sense. I admit it's mostly poorly written and hard to follow but parts of it seem very accurate. | ||
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Meiya
Australia1169 Posts
On November 05 2008 00:02 Locke. wrote: What does his race has to do with it? ...However you can't deny he has amazing control over people's emotions... Yeah, good speakers are like that. | ||
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Flaccid
8850 Posts
Just because it's on t3h int4rw3bz does not make it credible, let alone true. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32089 Posts
Dunno where this came from, friend emailed it to me: Six election day wet dreams for Democrats That's gonna make a mess. When Democrats dream, they dream of blue Florida. Barack Obama might be able to make that dream come true. Obama has been flooding Florida with advertising, ground game, and personal appearances, and according to the polls, it's working. After it was stolen from them in 2000, nothing turns Democrats on more than the thought of a Florida win, but that isn't their only fantasy. Herewith are six of the most common wet dreams Democrats will be having in the days leading up to November 4th. Somebody hand them a tissue... http://www.236.com/images/spacer.gif SIX ELECTION DAY WET DREAMS FOR DEMOCRATS Taking Florida. There's no denying it. It's the one that got away. The one they should have had but it got ripped out of their hands. Winning Florida would be like finally getting a second chance with that woman you were impotent with, just to prove that it really was a fluke! For eight years Dems have been screaming "this kind of thing never happens to us" but no one's believed them. Not until now? Having Florida and Ohio both. The twins! Very hot. But Ohio would really just be icing on the cake. If Dems get Florida, they wanna take their time with it. Really savor every minute of the win, give Florida their undivided attention, let it know what it's been missing all these years. But hey, no one's gonna kick Ohio out of bed for eating cookies. Sneaking Away with Arizona. Winning Arizona is the ultimate "F You" fantasy. It's akin to winning the big game and going home with the other team's head cheerleader while their quarterback just has to stand there and watch. Scoring big, "Reagan-Mondale" style. Except the Dems are Reagan. It's okay if this makes you feel uncomfortable because it's pretty much a rape fantasy. It's Democrats wanting to hold America down by the arms and just paint the whole thing blue. Some Democrats are creepy like that. Takes all kinds. Karl Rove in handcuffs. There's an element of bondage to it, but Karl Rove getting arrested is actually one of the more popular elements to all types of Democratic wet dreams. He eventually just pops into the scenario wearing a pair of handcuffs. No matter what they're dreaming about, Karl Rove doing a perp walk usually ends up being the money shot. Just plain old, missionary style 270. Look, when you've gone without for a long time, you don't need any big fancy scenarios to get off. For many Dems, they just wanna get to 270 electoral votes. Before they break out the leather and the whip cream, they really just wanna end their dry streak. | ||
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Murk
Canada304 Posts
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Arbiter[frolix]
United Kingdom2674 Posts
On November 04 2008 23:47 Hawk wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2008 19:07 Arbiter[frolix] wrote: Hypnosis? Hilarious. The article linked to regarding Obama's supposed use of hynosis, cunningly hidden in "ordinary speech", is tin foil hat and black helicopter stuff. Really odd. Yeah, really. I'd expect that from liberals, not conservatives. Your comment really is a pointless little barb which I am sure has no other purpose than to irritate or rile those you disagree with. Serious people on the left and the right of the political spectrum refuse to buy into the strange fantasies propagated by any of the nutcases who inhabit the outer reaches of political life. | ||
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keit
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QuanticHawk
United States32089 Posts
On November 05 2008 00:30 Arbiter[frolix] wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2008 23:47 Hawk wrote: On November 04 2008 19:07 Arbiter[frolix] wrote: Hypnosis? Hilarious. The article linked to regarding Obama's supposed use of hynosis, cunningly hidden in "ordinary speech", is tin foil hat and black helicopter stuff. Really odd. Yeah, really. I'd expect that from liberals, not conservatives. Your comment really is a pointless little barb which I am sure has no other purpose than to irritate or rile those you disagree with. Serious people on the left and the right of the political spectrum refuse to buy into the strange fantasies propagated by any of the nutcases who inhabit the outer reaches of political life. ?? I am a liberal lol. I'm just saying our side is usually the one's who scream '9/11 INSIDE JOB' and all those fun conspiracy ideas. Despite my general support for democrats, I mock idiots on both sides freely. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On November 04 2008 16:55 fight_or_flight wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2008 04:49 Savio wrote: On November 04 2008 04:17 TeCh)PsylO wrote: On November 04 2008 03:39 BlackJack wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBMdWxcFXQg obama flips off mccain? lol What's pathetic is that Drudge has this as his headline, as if Obama really did flick him off. Actually that is pretty sad. I am anti-Obama, but the fact that Drudge put that on his page is pathetic. EDIT: Interestingly, the LATimes also reported this and another incident where he supposedly flipped off Hillary. Article: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/obamaflipsoffcl.html And the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhkq11UExcw I think they are both crap. Everyone does that from time to time when scratching an itch. I think he knew exactly what he was doing in both cases. Notice how both times he pauses mid sentence when talking about his opponent. In that video you posted it was so obvious to the crowd that they started booing him. It may seem like nothing, but when you take into account the hypnosis that Obama has employed throughout his campaign, you start to get a picture of a narcissistic and manipulative individual. http://freerepublic.info/focus/f-news/2110606/posts + Show Spoiler + Understanding Obama: The Making of a Fuehrer By Ali Sina I must confess, I was not impressed by Sen. Barack Obama from the first time I saw him. At first I was excited to see a black candidate. He looked youthful, spoke well, appeared to be confident, a wholesome presidential package. I was put off soon, not just because of his shallowness but also because there was an air of haughtiness in his demeanor that was unsettling. His posture and his body language were louder than his empty words. Obama’s speeches are unlike any political speech we have heard in American history. Never a politician in this land had such a quasi “religious” impact on so many people. The fact that Obama is a total incognito with zero accomplishment makes this inexplicable infatuation alarming. Obama is not an ordinary man. He is not a genius. In fact, he is quite ignorant on most important subjects. Barack Obama is a narcissist. Dr. Sam Vaknin, the author of “Malignant Self Love,” also believes, “Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist.” Vaknin is a world authority on narcissism. He understands narcissism and describes the inner mind of a narcissist like no other person. When he talks about narcissism everyone listens. Vaknin says that Obama’s language, posture and demeanor, and the testimonies of his closest, dearest and nearest suggest that the Senator is either a narcissist or he may have narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). Narcissists project a grandiose but false image of themselves. Jim Jones, the charismatic leader of People’s Temple, the man who led over 900 of his followers to cheerfully commit mass suicide and even murder their own children was also a narcissist. Charles Manson, Joseph Koni, Shoko Asahara, Joe Stalin, Saddam, Mao Zedong, Kim Jong IL, and Adolph Hitler are a few examples of narcissists of our time. All these men had a tremendous influence over their fanciers and followers. They created a personality cult around themselves, and with their blazing speeches elevated their admirer’s souls, filled their hearts with enthusiasm and instilled in their minds a new zest for life. Those men gave their followers hope! They promised them the moon, but alas, they invariably brought them to their doom. When you are a victim of a cult of personality, you don't know it until it is too late. One determining factor in the development of NPD is childhood abuse. “Obama’s early life was decidedly chaotic and replete with traumatic and mentally bruising dislocations,” says Vaknin. “Mixed-race marriages were even less common then. His parents went through a divorce when he was an infant (two years old). Obama saw his father only once again, before he died in a car accident. His mother re-married and Obama had to relocate to Indonesia, a foreign land with a radically foreign culture, to be raised by a stepfather. He was raised as an only child, full of himself and no others. He never had to share the spotlight with any siblings. At the age of ten, he was whisked off to live with his maternal (white) grandparents. He saw his mother only intermittently in the following few years and then she vanished from his life in 1979. She died of cancer in 1995.” One must never underestimate the manipulative genius of pathological narcissists. (Pathology: something abnormal, such as disease.) They project such an imposing personality that it overwhelms those around them. Charmed by the charisma of the narcissist, people become like clay in his hands. They cheerfully do his bidding and delight to be at his service. The narcissist shapes the world around him and reduces others in his own inverted image. He creates a cult of personality; his admirers become his co-dependents. Narcissists have no interest in things that do not help them to reach their personal objectives. They are focused on one thing alone, and that is power. All other issues are meaningless to them and they do not want to waste their precious time on trivialities. Anything that does not help them is beneath them and does not deserve their attention. If an issue raised in the Senate does not help Obama in one way or another, he has no interest in it. The “Present” vote is a safe vote; he used the “Present” all the time as a member of the Illinois legislature. No one can criticize him if things go wrong. Why should he implicate himself in issues that may become controversial when they don’t help him personally? Those issues are unworthy by their very nature because they are not about him. Obama’s election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review led to a contract and an advance to write a book about race relations. The University of Chicago Law School provided him with a fellowship and an office to work on his book. The book took him a lot longer than expected and at the end it devolved into…, guess what? His own autobiography! Instead of writing a scholarly paper focusing on race relations, for which he had been paid, Obama could not resist writing about his most sublime self. He entitled the book “Dreams from My Father.” Not surprisingly, Adolph Hitler also wrote his own autobiography when he was still nobody. So did Stalin. For a narcissist no subject is as important as his own self. Why would he waste his precious time and genius writing about insignificant things when he can write about such an august being as himself? Narcissists are often callous and even ruthless. As the norm, they lack conscience. This is evident from Obama’s lack of interest in his own brother who lives on only one dollar per month. A man who lives in luxury, who takes a private jet to vacation in Hawaii, and who has raised nearly a half billion dollars for his campaign (something unprecedented in history) has no interest in the plight of his own brother. Why? His brother cannot be used for his ascent to power. A narcissist cares for no one but himself. This election is like no other election in the history of America. The issues are insignificant compared to what is at stake. What can be more dangerous than having a man bereft of a conscience, a serial liar, and one who cannot distinguish his fantasies from reality as the leader of the free world? I hate to sound alarmist, but one must be a fool if one is not alarmed. Many politicians are narcissists. They pose no threat to others. They are simply self-serving and selfish. [Witness Al Gore’s Income Tax; it reveals that he gave away NO MONEY to charities, not even to a church!] Obama evinces symptoms of pathological narcissism, which is different from the run-of-the-mill narcissism of a Richard Nixon or Bill Clinton, for example. To him reality and fantasy are intertwined. This is a mental health issue, not just a character flaw. Pathological narcissists are dangerous because they look normal and even intelligent. It is this disguise that makes them treacherous. [Look up the word ‘treachery.’] Today the Democrats have placed all their hopes in Obama. But this man could put an end to their party [and to this great nation]. The great majority of blacks have also decided to vote for Obama. Only a fool does not know that their support for him is racially driven. Let us call a spade a spade [No pun intended.]. This is racism, pure and simple. The truth is that, while everyone carries a misconceived collective guilt towards blacks for wrongs done centuries ago by a bygone people to a bygone people, the blacks carry a collective rancor, enmity or vendetta towards non-blacks, and to this day want to “stand up” to the white man. They seem to be stuck in 19th century [encourage by race baiters like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and others]. The downside of this is, that if Obama turns out to be the disaster I predict, he will cause widespread resentment among the whites. The blacks are unlikely to give up their support of their man. Cultic mentality is pernicious and unrelenting. They will dig their heads deeper in the sand and blame Obama’s detractors of racism. This will cause a backlash among the whites. The white supremacists will take advantage of the discontent and they will receive widespread support. I predict that in less than four years, racial tensions will increase to levels not seen since the turbulent 1960s. Obama will set the clock back decades. America is the bastion of freedom. The peace of the world depends on the strength of America, and its weakness translates into the triumph of terrorism and victory of rogue nations. It is no wonder that Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez, the Maoist Castroists, the Hezbollah, the Hamas, the lawyers of the Guantanamo terrorists, and virtually all sworn enemies of America are so thrilled by the prospect of “their man” in the White House. America is on the verge of destruction. There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological narcissist as president. He gets away with it because its so ridiculous that people can't even bring it up. But thats what we've been dealing with for the last 8 years, haven't we? Bush has been so blatantly breaking the law that people can't even accuse him without being laughed at. Things are getting surreal. I wish I could pretend this was a joke post the fact thats its serious, I dont know what to say oh heres another one obaMA BUSh spell mabus yeah you heard it here first, obama is the anti-christ | ||
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