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Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
November 18 2008 23:43 GMT
#2381
The Democrats were absolutely spineless in their decision on Liebermanl. Regardless of whether or not you think he's actually "liberal" or "moderate", the very fact that he was campaigning *against* Obama and insinuated that he was unpatriotic should be grounds enough to kick him out.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-19 00:33:12
November 19 2008 00:16 GMT
#2382
On November 19 2008 07:39 Savio wrote:
If I may say. I think that democrats did something good in letting Liebermann keep his chairmanship. That is the first sign that they may try to govern from the center rather than the far left.

I am not saying Liebermann is a moderate overall, he is actually quite liberal, but on foreign policy (which is what his chairmanship covers), he could be said to be moderate to slightly right.

Anyway, good job dems. And that is coming from ME!

You really buy the hook for protecting Israel? Because that's what Lieberman's foreign policy opinion amounts to. He should've kept the environmental chair, not this one. He shares the same stance with every other hard right neo-con like Cheney and Wolfowitz, except he doesn't believe in the Rapture. Lieberman's policy stance is the very reason the Taliban have been so successful since the Cold War and the reason Pentagon-trained Somali pirates are hijacking oil tankers.

I'm glad Hagel is finally teeing off on some of the asinine personalities on the right.
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GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
November 21 2008 01:00 GMT
#2383
I don't know where else to mention this, but surprisingly, Dems may hit the 60 vote veto proof bloc in the Senate still. Stevens lost his seat in Alaska when absentee ballots were counted. Chambliss failed to reach a majority in Georgia, forcing a runoff. Martin now has many top Obama operatives in the state working on his behalf. Its very likely that he can win the run off election. And in Minnesota, the tight race between Franken and Coleman is in a recount. If those two races still undecided swing blue, then that means 60 democrats in the Senate.
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-21 02:10:59
November 21 2008 02:04 GMT
#2384
60 dems was always a kind of exaggerated threshold though, because really once the dems get up to the 56,57,58 range they are already basically in control, because they should be able to pick off a few republican votes on a host of moderate issues to get their 60 votes.

so 60 isn't really the magical threshold it's made out to be, but certainly the more senators the dems have the better. also should mention that if they can't get 5 republicans to hop in on the vote then they probably aren't going to get the blue dogs to support their vote either, just another note on why the difference between 57, 58 dems and 60 dems is marginal

it'll be nice to have a congress that is filibuster-proof and can actually get things done come jan 20. it always bugged me how people pointed their fingers at the democrats in congress and blamed them for not getting anything done, when those people just didn't understand it was the senate republicans filibustering and george bush's veto pen that were coating everything with peanut butter, not the dems

long post...
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
November 21 2008 02:58 GMT
#2385
It would be nice not to have to water things down to please five republicans to avoid a veto
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-21 03:42:49
November 21 2008 03:37 GMT
#2386
yeah but like my post said, moderate republicans and blue dogs are essentially the same thing.

so even with 60 dems you still have to water things down enough to please the blue dogs, i really don't see what the difference is between pleasing 5 blue dogs or pleasing 5 moderate republicans, and that's why i (and most political analysts) think the difference between say 57 dems and 60 dems is almost entirely symbolic

Edit: don't get me wrong, 60 dems sounds great, i'm just trying to clear up this misconception that 60 dems is some sort of magical threshold. seems like people just forget/don't know about moderate republicans & blue dogs. congress isn't so black and white

but really, i'm glad someone else on TL is following the senate races this closely too! the more dems the merrier
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
November 21 2008 04:09 GMT
#2387
So apparently Obama is thinking about having Hillary Clinton for secretary of state. It's funny how politics works, they diss the crap out of each other (especially hillary on obama) and after obama won the election, she endorses him and now they're working out a deal
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
November 21 2008 06:17 GMT
#2388
yea politico is reporting that clinton will be named sec of state after thanksgiving

i'm not a fan of this move but what can you do
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 21 2008 06:48 GMT
#2389
On November 21 2008 15:17 a-game wrote:
yea politico is reporting that clinton will be named sec of state after thanksgiving

i'm not a fan of this move but what can you do


it's not a universally bad call though, it's a judgment call. I can see the pro's and the cons of this move.
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
November 21 2008 10:55 GMT
#2390
for sure, i just dislike/distrust her. i can see how an objective person might approve of the decision
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 21 2008 11:33 GMT
#2391
hilldawg is only as bad as the circumstances demand her to be.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
November 21 2008 22:20 GMT
#2392
I think Hillary has a big pair of balls, a canny political sense, and a great poker face. Top diplomat for sure.
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-22 04:58:51
November 22 2008 02:21 GMT
#2393
plus she knows how to handle sniper fire

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you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 29 2008 20:25 GMT
#2394
Not sure if this belongs here but Chris Matthews will be running for senate in 2010 and will be asking for help from the Obama team according to the Huffington(sp?) Post.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
November 29 2008 20:45 GMT
#2395
On November 30 2008 05:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Not sure if this belongs here but Chris Matthews will be running for senate in 2010 and will be asking for help from the Obama team according to the Huffington(sp?) Post.


Lol Chris Matthews, The guy from Hardball?

I wonder what state he will be running in.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 12 2008 22:29 GMT
#2396
Just bumping this seeing how the McCain/Palin camp is in the news again.

A Fox 5 investigative reporter buys a Blackberry device containing confidential campaign information from the John McCain campaign.

Full article

ARLINGTON, Va. -- Private information at bargain prices. It was a high-tech flub at the McCain-Palin campaign headquarters in Arlington when Fox 5's Investigative Reporter Tisha Thompson bought a Blackberry device containing confidential campaign information.

It started with a snippet we read on page A23 in Thursday's Washington Post. The McCain-Palin campaign was going to sell its used office inventory at low prices.

But when we got there, it didn't look like we were going to get much. It was lunchtime and most of the good stuff was gone, picked over by early birds looking for deals on file cabinets, white boards, sofas-- anything headquarters could sell to get back some of their campaign dough.

We saw laptops ranging between $400 and $600 with logins like "WARROOM08." We couldn't log on without a password, but staffers assured us the hard drive would be zapped before it was sold, and the computer would probably work.

The hottest item? Blackberry phones at $20 a piece. There were only 10 left. All of the batteries had died. There were no chargers for sale. But people were snatching them up. So, we bought a couple.

And ended up with a lot more than we bargained for.

When we charged them up in the newsroom, we found one of the $20 Blackberry phones contained more than 50 phone numbers for people connected with the McCain-Palin campaign, as well as hundreds of emails from early September until a few days after election night.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
December 12 2008 22:49 GMT
#2397
They still have to practice a bit to get to the same level as the british government
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
December 13 2008 04:19 GMT
#2398
on this note, how fucking stupid is the governor of illinois? He's already in trouble for corruption and he pulls this kind of shit? fucking idiot
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