It would probably be good though to have a sober friend while you're tripping
My (bad) Salvia trip - Page 4
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GeneralStan
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nA.Inky
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ilj.psa
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On February 12 2008 01:35 nA.Inky wrote: In response to the OP: both my salvia trips are really similar to yours in that I had the distinct impression that there is some entity out there who can control (and fuck with) everything at will. Worse still, I felt with my entire being that this entity was utterly malevolent. My first trip was the most powerful, and it sent me utterly out of my mind. One minute sitting in a chair, alone in my room, the next minute I am in another reality, completely unaware I had taken a drug. The first thing I noticed was that I was getting smashed repeatedly. It was as if I were the inside edge of a door, and the door kept slamming shut (it was a refrigerator door, for some reason.) I became aware of other beings who were being smashed repeatedly too. They were strange, irregularly shaped cone beings, and they were giggling wildly as they were getting smashed. But all I could feel was utter terror and horrible, shredding, grinding pain all over my body. I would try to get up and move so I would stop being smashed, but some force (the entity?) kept shoving me back into place, so I would be smashed again and again. It just repeated over and over, and it hurt so much. I knew this would go on for an eternity. I had Tool on the stereo, and Maynard (the singer) began talking to me, telling me I could never go back to my reality, that it was utterly hollow and fake. I became aware of millions of beings looking at me - I was in the center of some stadium or something - and they could look into my soul. I was utterly naked, just pure fear. I could see my whole life and my whole world were fake, like the set of a sitcom after the actors have left the set and the lighting has been shut off. Finally I was able to move my body, so I got up (I had fallen onto my floor - my chair was completely tipped over in the opposite direction, and I have no idea how any of that happened - and ran out of my room. I tried to explain to my Mom, who had no idea what I had been doing, that I had been the essence of being smashed. I was speaking like a crazy person. After the trip started to subside, I felt like an evil dimension was emanating from my right side. The trip was pure horror. After several years of reflecting upon it, I think it was a sort of allegory referring to modern machine societies, in which we are like little cogs in the machine. Our lives are utterly mediated. We are disconnected from the cycles of the universe (the real world, if you will) and live in plastic, artificial, highly controlled worlds, dominated by bosses, laws, television, bureaucracy. The malevolent force I felt was that of society, the evil currents running through society that lead sane and good people to be evil - like the Nazi Germans or present day Americans. The experiences gained through salvia can be immensely difficult and painful. I don't recommend this drug to anyone. Far better is wisdom gained through hardwork and deep extended contemplation. i think its a bad idea to overanalize the experiences that happened to you with reality or try to interpret them, you were high dude. | ||
GeneralStan
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On February 12 2008 06:04 ilj.psa wrote: i think its a bad idea to overanalize the experiences that happened to you with reality or try to interpret them, you were high dude. I think you're completely wrong. Yes you're high, and no your vision while you're high aren't prescient and aren't special. You have to take a few steps back from the significance you attached to them while you were high, but they're certainly capable of helping you see things differently. In fact, they're really really good at that. Only with a drug that powerful can you see the world from an entirely different perspective, and that's an experience you should analyze to its fullest, because in analyzing how things were different, you gain a deep understanding of how you think when you're not high. | ||
BaDayOri
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
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On February 12 2008 03:15 Hawk wrote: I think as long as I do them while Willie or allman is on, I should be ok =p I was itially worried about hte big setting (most I did shrooms was with 8 ppl tripping and 2 sitters) but I've really never had a problem. I think since it's music and there's undoubtably gonna be a lot of stoned ass hippies, Ill fit right in ahha I wouldn't actually recommend doing your first acid trip in anything less than a setting you're completely comfortable with. I really, really wouldn't. | ||
FrEaK[S.sIR]
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On February 12 2008 03:25 nA.Inky wrote: My honest opinion: tripping is not a way to party. It is an intense spiritual voyage that can be extremely dark or extremely bright depending on many factors. In other words, concerts and psychedelics = NO. Just my opinion. Do what works for you. Somebody clearly doesn't dance ![]() Ketamine and LSD are awesome for dancing. 2cb too. | ||
GeneralStan
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On February 12 2008 09:46 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: I wouldn't actually recommend doing your first acid trip in anything less than a setting you're completely comfortable with. I really, really wouldn't. I think an experienced mushroom tripper will probably find it easier to adjust to a less than comfortable trip setting. There are skills you gain from tripping (how to keep it a good trip and stay chill mainly) that apply to pretty much any drug (I actually have to use tripping skills when I smoke weed, believe it or not) | ||
FrEaK[S.sIR]
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Nobody I know has GOOD stories from it. DMT is way better. More intense, more enlightening, less forceful. | ||
FrEaK[S.sIR]
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On February 12 2008 02:15 Meta wrote: i've smoked salvia something like 5 times and honestly it's a waste of money. who here's tried acid? there's something that will put you in your place. Salvia is significantly more powerful and intense. Acid's pretty tame. | ||
FrEaK[S.sIR]
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On February 12 2008 06:04 ilj.psa wrote: i think its a bad idea to overanalize the experiences that happened to you with reality or try to interpret them, you were high dude. Amusing that somebody who admittedly has no experience with drugs is so vocal about what is and is not a bad idea. What makes you such an authority? | ||
ilj.psa
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On February 12 2008 08:41 GeneralStan wrote: I think you're completely wrong. Yes you're high, and no your vision while you're high aren't prescient and aren't special. You have to take a few steps back from the significance you attached to them while you were high, but they're certainly capable of helping you see things differently. In fact, they're really really good at that. Only with a drug that powerful can you see the world from an entirely different perspective, and that's an experience you should analyze to its fullest, because in analyzing how things were different, you gain a deep understanding of how you think when you're not high. i agree you get to see the different perspective of the world through the eyes of a crackhead high on drugs and you should analize it because when your brain is tripping is a meaningful time to re-evaluate your life | ||
FrEaK[S.sIR]
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On February 11 2008 01:29 Steelflight-Rx wrote: Just make sure ur careful if you do them. Just because you won't be running around doesnt mean they arent dangerous. Learn about proper doses from your dealer and shit, and dont use shrooms with alcohol and you should be okay. Like he said, shroom isn't weed or alcohol, so you gotta be aware of the differences going into it, one being that you can actually OD on shrooms. Not to scare you or anything, shrooms are mad fun =d Dealers don't know anything about the drugs they are selling. Why should they? | ||
GeneralStan
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On February 12 2008 09:51 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: I don't get why people do Salvia. Nobody I know has GOOD stories from it. DMT is way better. More intense, more enlightening, less forceful. Interestingly, I've heard nothing but stories that really make me want to avoid DMT. Disassociation, out of body and most often intensely Dysphoric visions. I've heard many a DMT tripper say taht they felt ready to die (although not a standardly suicidal way, just . . . resigned) | ||
FrEaK[S.sIR]
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On February 12 2008 09:54 ilj.psa wrote: i agree you get to see the different perspective of the world through the eyes of a crackhead high on drugs and you should analize it because when your brain is tripping is a meaningful time to evaluate how your life Please explain how salvia and crack are anything similar? Please explain why virtually any experience isn't worth analyzing and thinking over? Sure, it can be taken too far but that doesn't make it not worthwhile. And again, please tell me what makes you such an authority on drugs, life and psychoanalysis. I'm quite curious. | ||
GeneralStan
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On February 12 2008 09:54 ilj.psa wrote: i agree you get to see the different perspective of the world through the eyes of a crackhead high on drugs and you should analize it because when your brain is tripping is a meaningful time to re-evaluate your life I'm not even sure what you'er asying here. But I will say, on the influence of the drug is a bad time to analyze it, after the effect subsides is when something valuable can be gained (See Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band) | ||
FrEaK[S.sIR]
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On February 12 2008 09:56 GeneralStan wrote: Interestingly, I've heard nothing but stories that really make me want to avoid DMT. Disassociation, out of body and most often intensely Dysphoric visions. I've heard many a DMT tripper say taht they felt ready to die (although not a standardly suicidal way, just . . . resigned) It's not something one would do for fun. It's a very spiritual experience. Considering what the human body uses DMT for and all ![]() And disassociation and out of body experiences are necessarily a bad thing. It isn't something I'd recommend to somebody inexperienced or without somebody experienced with them. And if you're just looking for fun, I wouldn't recommend it either. But then again, it's not really one of those drugs you just come across at a party either. | ||
GeneralStan
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On February 12 2008 09:51 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: I don't get why people do Salvia. Nobody I know has GOOD stories from it. DMT is way better. More intense, more enlightening, less forceful. I've actually had very good experiences with it. The first time was a bit odd (the world was made of straws, and white picket fences), but every time after that, I've felt a phenomenal sense of connection to the world, and afterwards for at least 12 hours, I get an afterglow that works better as an anti-depressant for me than did Prozac | ||
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