On February 01 2025 12:08 Salazarz wrote: This conversation is a perfect example of how using loaded language can divide and antagonize people even if they actually agree on the underlying message, and that's why this kind of messaging should not be acceptable even if it's sometimes fun to think about. It's like, I don't know, I think Netanyahu is a war criminal and I wouldn't shed a single tear if he died, but I wouldn't write an article criticizing him with a line saying 'it's time to bring back gas chambers' or something.
Exactly. I've been telling people over and over again that we're often just talking past each other while expressing fundamentally the same thing. Fighting and wasting energy just because of a misunderstanding, which could be avoided by looking at the context in which a word is being used.
When a person says "by bullying in this instance I mean xyz" then everything can be clarified. People can use whichever words they want as long as they know how the word is generally being used. My understanding and that of the general population is that the word "bullying" is always negative, and with that context it should be well understood why I'm against it. If others think bullying can have a greater purpose because it's not always negative then that's all that's required to know that they're not in disagreement over anything other than the meaning of the word.
personally, bullying, or punching a nazi is always good. but im sure you have nuance there. elon should be tried for stock exchange manipulation, worker rights violations, being a nazi and treason... dude should be shackled to a long chain and led up to the guillotine as far as im concerned. but we live in a much more civilized society, where people like you can excuse 13 horrifying actions and acts because centrism and bruh dont bully the richest man on the planet, shit man, thats like mean.
On February 01 2025 12:08 Salazarz wrote: This conversation is a perfect example of how using loaded language can divide and antagonize people even if they actually agree on the underlying message, and that's why this kind of messaging should not be acceptable even if it's sometimes fun to think about. It's like, I don't know, I think Netanyahu is a war criminal and I wouldn't shed a single tear if he died, but I wouldn't write an article criticizing him with a line saying 'it's time to bring back gas chambers' or something.
Exactly. I've been telling people over and over again that we're often just talking past each other while expressing fundamentally the same thing. Fighting and wasting energy just because of a misunderstanding, which could be avoided by looking at the context in which a word is being used.
When a person says "by bullying in this instance I mean xyz" then everything can be clarified. People can use whichever words they want as long as they know how the word is generally being used. My understanding and that of the general population is that the word "bullying" is always negative, and with that context it should be well understood why I'm against it. If others think bullying can have a greater purpose because it's not always negative then that's all that's required to know that they're not in disagreement over anything other than the meaning of the word.
personally, bullying, or punching a nazi is always good. but im sure you have nuance there. elon should be tried for stock exchange manipulation, worker rights violations, being a nazi and treason... dude should be shackled to a long chain and led up to the guillotine as far as im concerned. but we live in a much more civilized society, where people like you can excuse 13 horrifying actions and acts because centrism and bruh dont bully the richest man on the planet, shit man, thats like mean.
Have you read my posts in this thread at all? I'm not excusing anything, I'm among the most vocal of Elon's opponents. I called him top five most dangerous people on the planet. Not sure what your problem is.
On February 01 2025 03:48 Magic Powers wrote: The language is used in the context of a person people dislike. Anti-Elon bias causes a rationalization of the language. If she was instead talking about someone people do like people would immediately realize what's wrong. Messaging is important, and this messaging is not it.
Patton Oswalt has a good side story that is relevant here (and the discussion directly above)
‘I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after- work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.”
And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed.
Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”
And i was like, ohok and he continues.
“you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too. And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.
And i was like, ‘oh damn.’ and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”
And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.’
Your wording of "anti-elon bias" is kinda hilarious, like objectively by any measure Elon is a genuine shitty person who now is attempting to overthrow our federal government and democracy. Who wouldn't be anti-Elon? Wow youre anti Rasputin?? Uh yeah.
Rasputin is probably a more likeable person with a better cause than Musk. Sure, he was all about making the world better for Rasputin, but he at least didn't try to overthrow a democracy, and just fought for power in the Tzarist regime.
Also, he had a giant penis, so that is another difference to Musk.
Sidenote: I really dislike this tendency of calling some famous people by their first name. First names are for friends. Musk isn't my friend.
On February 01 2025 12:08 Salazarz wrote: This conversation is a perfect example of how using loaded language can divide and antagonize people even if they actually agree on the underlying message, and that's why this kind of messaging should not be acceptable even if it's sometimes fun to think about. It's like, I don't know, I think Netanyahu is a war criminal and I wouldn't shed a single tear if he died, but I wouldn't write an article criticizing him with a line saying 'it's time to bring back gas chambers' or something.
Yeah what you write is true for loaded language like you said, so if she had talked about gas chambers then it would be appropriate. But she didn't, she's just writing about how Elon Musk is a loser and so she's conveying language associated with losers for rhetorical purposes in her article, that's all. If she was talking about gas chambers we would wonder why she is doing that, and there would be a logical question as to whether she actually wants them back or not. Here it's very clear what she wants to do, and we're getting stuck on this unnecessarily. This one's on us not on language.
On February 01 2025 12:08 Salazarz wrote: This conversation is a perfect example of how using loaded language can divide and antagonize people even if they actually agree on the underlying message, and that's why this kind of messaging should not be acceptable even if it's sometimes fun to think about. It's like, I don't know, I think Netanyahu is a war criminal and I wouldn't shed a single tear if he died, but I wouldn't write an article criticizing him with a line saying 'it's time to bring back gas chambers' or something.
Yeah what you write is true for loaded language like you said, so if she had talked about gas chambers then it would be appropriate. But she didn't, she's just writing about how Elon Musk is a loser and so she's conveying language associated with losers for rhetorical purposes in her article, that's all. If she was talking about gas chambers we would wonder why she is doing that, and there would be a logical question as to whether she actually wants them back or not. Here it's very clear what she wants to do, and we're getting stuck on this unnecessarily. This one's on us not on language.
No, it's on her. She said "nerds" plural not "that nerd" singular. She's the one who made a mistake and if people take from that how she wants other people to bully all the nerds then it's her miscommunication that caused this (mis)interpretation. Furthermore she clearly thought grouping Elon in with other nerds as a denigration of his character would score with the average reader. She's comfortable deriding nerds and telling her audience that bullying them is ok. If she wants to make sure this is not how people interpret her words, she has the sole power to do so. Nobody stops her from using more precise language directed at the real culprit, which is Elon.
On February 01 2025 21:24 Nebuchad wrote: Because there's more than one person in the article there's also Zuckerberg so you can't do singular?
She didn't say "the nerds Zuckerberg and Elon" either. She referred to nerds in general, just as she did to alpha males in general. Not just specific individuals. She's not careful enough with her language and I'm right to point that out.
On February 01 2025 03:48 Magic Powers wrote: The language is used in the context of a person people dislike. Anti-Elon bias causes a rationalization of the language. If she was instead talking about someone people do like people would immediately realize what's wrong. Messaging is important, and this messaging is not it.
Patton Oswalt has a good side story that is relevant here (and the discussion directly above)
‘I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after- work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.”
And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed.
Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”
And i was like, ohok and he continues.
“you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too. And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.
And i was like, ‘oh damn.’ and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”
And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.’
Your wording of "anti-elon bias" is kinda hilarious, like objectively by any measure Elon is a genuine shitty person who now is attempting to overthrow our federal government and democracy. Who wouldn't be anti-Elon? Wow youre anti Rasputin?? Uh yeah.
Rasputin is probably a more likeable person with a better cause than Musk. Sure, he was all about making the world better for Rasputin, but he at least didn't try to overthrow a democracy, and just fought for power in the Tzarist regime.
Also, he had a giant penis, so that is another difference to Musk.
Sidenote: I really dislike this tendency of calling some famous people by their first name. First names are for friends. Musk isn't my friend.
Rasputin also got to where he got from sheer weirdo charisma.
Musk despite his lack of it, it’s his wealth and power that opens doors for him.
If he was just some nondescript bloke and he asked to join me and my pals in a bar, I reckon we’re telling him to fuck off in short order, or sneaking out to another bar. Rasputin you’re having a great time and you’re probably still partying at 3am in some sex club you didn’t previously know existed
On February 01 2025 12:08 Salazarz wrote: This conversation is a perfect example of how using loaded language can divide and antagonize people even if they actually agree on the underlying message, and that's why this kind of messaging should not be acceptable even if it's sometimes fun to think about. It's like, I don't know, I think Netanyahu is a war criminal and I wouldn't shed a single tear if he died, but I wouldn't write an article criticizing him with a line saying 'it's time to bring back gas chambers' or something.
Yeah what you write is true for loaded language like you said, so if she had talked about gas chambers then it would be appropriate. But she didn't, she's just writing about how Elon Musk is a loser and so she's conveying language associated with losers for rhetorical purposes in her article, that's all. If she was talking about gas chambers we would wonder why she is doing that, and there would be a logical question as to whether she actually wants them back or not. Here it's very clear what she wants to do, and we're getting stuck on this unnecessarily. This one's on us not on language.
No, it's on her. She said "nerds" plural not "that nerd" singular. She's the one who made a mistake and if people take from that how she wants other people to bully all the nerds then it's her miscommunication that caused this (mis)interpretation. Furthermore she clearly thought grouping Elon in with other nerds as a denigration of his character would score with the average reader. She's comfortable deriding nerds and telling her audience that bullying them is ok. If she wants to make sure this is not how people interpret her words, she has the sole power to do so. Nobody stops her from using more precise language directed at the real culprit, which is Elon.
I’m not getting that vibe at all.
‘It’s time for us to start getting revenge on the nerds.‘ appears right at the end, and is the only time the word nerd even appears, after an article slamming 2 specific individuals rather than nerds at large.
As a proud nerd I’m grand reading that and don’t feel attacked at all. Similar to when I read articles about toxic masculinity in its various guises. If it’s not about me, it’s not about me.
I’ll be plenty critical of people who can’t separate an attack on a subset of masculine archetypes from one on masculinity and men as a whole, and I’d be similarly critical here.
On February 01 2025 12:08 Salazarz wrote: This conversation is a perfect example of how using loaded language can divide and antagonize people even if they actually agree on the underlying message, and that's why this kind of messaging should not be acceptable even if it's sometimes fun to think about. It's like, I don't know, I think Netanyahu is a war criminal and I wouldn't shed a single tear if he died, but I wouldn't write an article criticizing him with a line saying 'it's time to bring back gas chambers' or something.
Yeah what you write is true for loaded language like you said, so if she had talked about gas chambers then it would be appropriate. But she didn't, she's just writing about how Elon Musk is a loser and so she's conveying language associated with losers for rhetorical purposes in her article, that's all. If she was talking about gas chambers we would wonder why she is doing that, and there would be a logical question as to whether she actually wants them back or not. Here it's very clear what she wants to do, and we're getting stuck on this unnecessarily. This one's on us not on language.
No, it's on her. She said "nerds" plural not "that nerd" singular. She's the one who made a mistake and if people take from that how she wants other people to bully all the nerds then it's her miscommunication that caused this (mis)interpretation. Furthermore she clearly thought grouping Elon in with other nerds as a denigration of his character would score with the average reader. She's comfortable deriding nerds and telling her audience that bullying them is ok. If she wants to make sure this is not how people interpret her words, she has the sole power to do so. Nobody stops her from using more precise language directed at the real culprit, which is Elon.
I’m not getting that vibe at all.
‘It’s time for us to start getting revenge on the nerds.‘ appears right at the end, and is the only time the word nerd even appears, after an article slamming 2 specific individuals rather than nerds at large.
As a proud nerd I’m grand reading that and don’t feel attacked at all. Similar to when I read articles about toxic masculinity in its various guises. If it’s not about me, it’s not about me.
I’ll be plenty critical of people who can’t separate an attack on a subset of masculine archetypes from one on masculinity and men as a whole, and I’d be similarly critical here.
It's probably almost exclusively a play on/reference to the movie "Revenge of the Nerds". I doubt the author ever even watched it though, so I wouldn't read much into it.
On February 01 2025 12:08 Salazarz wrote: This conversation is a perfect example of how using loaded language can divide and antagonize people even if they actually agree on the underlying message, and that's why this kind of messaging should not be acceptable even if it's sometimes fun to think about. It's like, I don't know, I think Netanyahu is a war criminal and I wouldn't shed a single tear if he died, but I wouldn't write an article criticizing him with a line saying 'it's time to bring back gas chambers' or something.
Yeah what you write is true for loaded language like you said, so if she had talked about gas chambers then it would be appropriate. But she didn't, she's just writing about how Elon Musk is a loser and so she's conveying language associated with losers for rhetorical purposes in her article, that's all. If she was talking about gas chambers we would wonder why she is doing that, and there would be a logical question as to whether she actually wants them back or not. Here it's very clear what she wants to do, and we're getting stuck on this unnecessarily. This one's on us not on language.
No, it's on her. She said "nerds" plural not "that nerd" singular. She's the one who made a mistake and if people take from that how she wants other people to bully all the nerds then it's her miscommunication that caused this (mis)interpretation. Furthermore she clearly thought grouping Elon in with other nerds as a denigration of his character would score with the average reader. She's comfortable deriding nerds and telling her audience that bullying them is ok. If she wants to make sure this is not how people interpret her words, she has the sole power to do so. Nobody stops her from using more precise language directed at the real culprit, which is Elon.
I’m not getting that vibe at all.
‘It’s time for us to start getting revenge on the nerds.‘ appears right at the end, and is the only time the word nerd even appears, after an article slamming 2 specific individuals rather than nerds at large.
As a proud nerd I’m grand reading that and don’t feel attacked at all. Similar to when I read articles about toxic masculinity in its various guises. If it’s not about me, it’s not about me.
I’ll be plenty critical of people who can’t separate an attack on a subset of masculine archetypes from one on masculinity and men as a whole, and I’d be similarly critical here.
My aunt recently criticized men as a group during a private conversation with me. I didn't show a reaction but regardless she realized that her words could be interpreted differently, so she said "I don't mean you of course, you're cool" and I appreciated that remark. It's a rather unremarkable effort which nonetheless has a remarkable effect and it earns respect and gratitude. Making a clear and precise distinction between who's the fiend and who's the friend does have a very clear impact on communication and how people feel about one another.
On February 01 2025 03:48 Magic Powers wrote: The language is used in the context of a person people dislike. Anti-Elon bias causes a rationalization of the language. If she was instead talking about someone people do like people would immediately realize what's wrong. Messaging is important, and this messaging is not it.
Patton Oswalt has a good side story that is relevant here (and the discussion directly above)
‘I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after- work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.”
And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed.
Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”
And i was like, ohok and he continues.
“you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too. And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.
And i was like, ‘oh damn.’ and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”
And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.’
Your wording of "anti-elon bias" is kinda hilarious, like objectively by any measure Elon is a genuine shitty person who now is attempting to overthrow our federal government and democracy. Who wouldn't be anti-Elon? Wow youre anti Rasputin?? Uh yeah.
Rasputin is probably a more likeable person with a better cause than Musk. Sure, he was all about making the world better for Rasputin, but he at least didn't try to overthrow a democracy, and just fought for power in the Tzarist regime.
Also, he had a giant penis, so that is another difference to Musk.
Sidenote: I really dislike this tendency of calling some famous people by their first name. First names are for friends. Musk isn't my friend.
Rasputin also raped and abused many many woman and definitely shared the same absolute power thirst that Elon now has. By the end of things he was very close to being one of the most powerful people within the Regime. He had Alex wrapped around his finger and she was the one in charge while Nikki was out being a dumbass lead general of the Russian army. I mean theres a possible future where Rasputin does a coup with The Black Hundreds and started a Russian version of the Nazis 20 years prior.
@ MagicPowers, i apologize comrade, anyone who despises musk is a-ok in my book
On February 01 2025 03:48 Magic Powers wrote: The language is used in the context of a person people dislike. Anti-Elon bias causes a rationalization of the language. If she was instead talking about someone people do like people would immediately realize what's wrong. Messaging is important, and this messaging is not it.
Patton Oswalt has a good side story that is relevant here (and the discussion directly above)
‘I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after- work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.”
And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed.
Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”
And i was like, ohok and he continues.
“you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too. And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.
And i was like, ‘oh damn.’ and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”
And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.’
Your wording of "anti-elon bias" is kinda hilarious, like objectively by any measure Elon is a genuine shitty person who now is attempting to overthrow our federal government and democracy. Who wouldn't be anti-Elon? Wow youre anti Rasputin?? Uh yeah.
Rasputin is probably a more likeable person with a better cause than Musk. Sure, he was all about making the world better for Rasputin, but he at least didn't try to overthrow a democracy, and just fought for power in the Tzarist regime.
Also, he had a giant penis, so that is another difference to Musk.
Sidenote: I really dislike this tendency of calling some famous people by their first name. First names are for friends. Musk isn't my friend.
Rasputin also raped and abused many many woman and definitely shared the same absolute power thirst that Elon now has. By the end of things he was very close to being one of the most powerful people within the Regime. He had Alex wrapped around his finger and she was the one in charge while Nikki was out being a dumbass lead general of the Russian army. I mean theres a possible future where Rasputin does a coup with The Black Hundreds and started a Russian version of the Nazis 20 years prior.
@ MagicPowers, i apologize comrade, anyone who despises musk is a-ok in my book
No worries, you're cool and I appreciate your apology very much, thank you
On February 01 2025 03:48 Magic Powers wrote: The language is used in the context of a person people dislike. Anti-Elon bias causes a rationalization of the language. If she was instead talking about someone people do like people would immediately realize what's wrong. Messaging is important, and this messaging is not it.
Patton Oswalt has a good side story that is relevant here (and the discussion directly above)
‘I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after- work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.”
And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed.
Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”
And i was like, ohok and he continues.
“you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too. And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.
And i was like, ‘oh damn.’ and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”
And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.’
Your wording of "anti-elon bias" is kinda hilarious, like objectively by any measure Elon is a genuine shitty person who now is attempting to overthrow our federal government and democracy. Who wouldn't be anti-Elon? Wow youre anti Rasputin?? Uh yeah.
Rasputin is probably a more likeable person with a better cause than Musk. Sure, he was all about making the world better for Rasputin, but he at least didn't try to overthrow a democracy, and just fought for power in the Tzarist regime.
Also, he had a giant penis, so that is another difference to Musk.
Sidenote: I really dislike this tendency of calling some famous people by their first name. First names are for friends. Musk isn't my friend.
On October 24 2024 22:52 Magic Powers wrote: I think this man deserves his own thread. Elon Musk is engaged in very heavy warfare of lies and propaganda. He's spreading misinformation like his life depended on it. Since he's engaging in an effort of spreading misinformation on all global news, he's fair game globally, and that's why I'm making a thread just for him. My opinion is that this man is one of the most dangerous people on the planet right now. Easily top five.
He's now attacked Austria's "left" for being anti-democratic (because he has not the slightest idea how our governing system works). Why is my little Austria suddenly in his focus now? Because a fascist party came into power, and Musk has made a name for himself supporting fascists such as Trump. Obviously he would support the fascist FPÖ as well and thus he believes every lie that favors our fascist party.
just came here to give you support, i completely agree. ppl who agree with trump, musk and other dangerous monsters are just bad individuals.
Folks I have some good news. Elon Musk will be in jail or worse in less than a month's time.
Elon will be kicked out or jailed within a month due to his inability to curb his ambitions. Nearly every company he joined, every venture, he tried or succeeded in a coup. He thinks he is the most important man and can always run things better. Government is just a business now eh? He will offer Trump this idea, you play golf and do the TV / press briefings, I’ll handle everything else. Trump will realize what’s happening and because he has all the current power within the GOP, he will kick musk out or eliminate him.
Anyways, see you fine fellas and dames in about a month to pop open the champagne and celebrate with you all
Eh, do you have any credible source for a claim like that? Or do you know anyone like that who has ever gone to jail? I don't see this happening...Trump may swing his scepter if he thinks Musk is out of line, but nothing more than that.
On February 04 2025 13:36 aseq wrote: Eh, do you have any credible source for a claim like that? Or do you know anyone like that who has ever gone to jail? I don't see this happening...Trump may swing his scepter if he thinks Musk is out of line, but nothing more than that.
we... have never had "anyone like that" in terms of US history with regards to Trump or Elon, or both together.
but. i have followed elon for a very very long time, this is as traceable as the planets orbits around the sun. if i had to be less certain and guess the specific acts that will take place, Musk will genuinely do something that backfires massively within 2 weeks, and he will double, and triple down, (im talking like him asking the military to take arrest his political opponents), Trump will watch and approve, but then public opinion will turn violently against Musk and Trump will have an easy path to follow.
"Elon Musk has been placed into confinement, he is a great man, but made a fool of himself frankly, power must be used wisely, its a shame, but I believe Elon wanted to replace me as President of the United States. He will receive a fair trial, and thats all I can say at this time."
EPT
