EPTi remember skimming through it last year and thinking it's a little out there but now, it's actually happening ...
(it's about Musk and the crypto bros, the funding of Trump campaign and their vision for a/the future)
Elon Musk's lies, propaganda, etc. - Page 59
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
i remember skimming through it last year and thinking it's a little out there but now, it's actually happening ... (it's about Musk and the crypto bros, the funding of Trump campaign and their vision for a/the future) | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14000 Posts
On February 04 2025 14:29 Husyelt wrote: we... have never had "anyone like that" in terms of US history with regards to Trump or Elon, or both together. but. i have followed elon for a very very long time, this is as traceable as the planets orbits around the sun. if i had to be less certain and guess the specific acts that will take place, Musk will genuinely do something that backfires massively within 2 weeks, and he will double, and triple down, (im talking like him asking the military to take arrest his political opponents), Trump will watch and approve, but then public opinion will turn violently against Musk and Trump will have an easy path to follow. "Elon Musk has been placed into confinement, he is a great man, but made a fool of himself frankly, power must be used wisely, its a shame, but I believe Elon wanted to replace me as President of the United States. He will receive a fair trial, and thats all I can say at this time." This might be the highest level of cope i've seen on TL | ||
KwarK
United States44203 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27230 Posts
On February 04 2025 23:30 KwarK wrote: The prediction that a bunch of narcissists will devolve into infighting is pretty reasonable. Neither of them cope at all well with people saying no to them. But if they disagree then they’ll fight it out on social media because that’s the clown show we live in now. Aye I think some kind of falling out is more likely to happen in the next 4 years than not, but at worst for Musk it’ll probably end up in DOGE being scrapped or something | ||
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Husyelt
United States839 Posts
On February 04 2025 23:56 WombaT wrote: Aye I think some kind of falling out is more likely to happen in the next 4 years than not, but at worst for Musk it’ll probably end up in DOGE being scrapped or something The blowback Elon is going to get for nuking entire agencies (at gop/trump request) is going to be insane. Trump will discard him for his good work in the next few weeks. Elon can single handily fuck the economy over if he messes with our funding for even a day, or a data breach is linked back to him. The tamest ending here is that after the Dept of Education is axed, DOGE WINS! Thanks Elon for the amazing work, and DOGE will stay on the sidelines, now Project 2025 can really get into gear and phase 2 of the administration goes into play. The most likely ending here is Elon gets backstabbed as a sacrificial lamb, (due to his infinite ambition running into the wall that is Trump's fear/power.) How its framed by MAGA, idk. But my premonition is deadly certainty. Deadly Premonition 3 style. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
Trump can't tolerate anyone who is not a complete yes-man, and Elon has an ego the size of the planet he's so desperate to reach. It's not exactly a stable alliance. The question is mostly how much damage he gets to do before Trump busses him. Also I will never not find it funny the way trumpists attempt to make their fantasy quotes sound whatever their idea of presidential is, while the actual man is out there setting records for dumbest-sounding-quote-ever-printed every single day. I don't think Trump has ever, in his life, uttered the phrase "that's all I can say at this time". | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8151 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On February 04 2025 23:30 KwarK wrote: The prediction that a bunch of narcissists will devolve into infighting is pretty reasonable. Neither of them cope at all well with people saying no to them. But if they disagree then they’ll fight it out on social media because that’s the clown show we live in now. I disagree. I think through some mechanism we are unaware of, Elon already has this locked in. The extent to which Elon is openly operating as king of the country indicates Trump's ego is not a concern. Whether its a gigantic $100B bribe, or some other form of control, my current theory is Elon already succeeded. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28874 Posts
People who want EVs aren't generally MAGAists and 2025 sales are slumping HARD compared to 2024 numbers - various european countries are seeing sales down from 40% to 75%. Australia down 33%. And people are citing Musk's political involvement as a deciding factor. Wonder how it looks for the US - does musk suddenly inspire global warming isn't real people to buy teslas or does he inspire I want an EV to look to other companies? Some might be attributed to aging models or whatnot but the car people I know still say Tesla is the best bang for the buck - even if they also say 'of course, I wouldn't have bought one now'. From a company perspective, does he get more out of his newfound political influence than he loses from the increased hatred towards him, or not? | ||
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Simberto
Germany11941 Posts
I know that i am theoretically in the market for an EV (not very high priority right now, i am fine without a car, but it is something i will eventually consider, especially if children should turn up). And there is just not way i would ever buy a Tesla. 10 years ago, i probably would have. And i imagine a lot of people have similar positions. I also cannot imagine a MAGAt buying an EV, but consistency any any semblance of logical thinking isn't really a strong suit of that group of people, so maybe they will all do that now. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14000 Posts
On February 06 2025 19:29 Liquid`Drone wrote: What I'm wondering is whether he cares about the Tesla brand. People who want EVs aren't generally MAGAists and 2025 sales are slumping HARD compared to 2024 numbers - various european countries are seeing sales down from 40% to 75%. Australia down 33%. And people are citing Musk's political involvement as a deciding factor. Wonder how it looks for the US - does musk suddenly inspire global warming isn't real people to buy teslas or does he inspire I want an EV to look to other companies? Some might be attributed to aging models or whatnot but the car people I know still say Tesla is the best bang for the buck - even if they also say 'of course, I wouldn't have bought one now'. From a company perspective, does he get more out of his newfound political influence than he loses from the increased hatred towards him, or not? The market for teslas did shift somewhat in America with them being less about being an EV and more about a political statement. Tech bros and upper middle class magats do actually purchase the Tesla brand for this reason. Then there's the niche category of somewhat apolitical people who are in the market and appreciate the tax credit attached to the cars. That said I would still assume sales will decline but I don't have numbers on hand to support that. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium5195 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27230 Posts
On February 06 2025 19:29 Liquid`Drone wrote: What I'm wondering is whether he cares about the Tesla brand. People who want EVs aren't generally MAGAists and 2025 sales are slumping HARD compared to 2024 numbers - various european countries are seeing sales down from 40% to 75%. Australia down 33%. And people are citing Musk's political involvement as a deciding factor. Wonder how it looks for the US - does musk suddenly inspire global warming isn't real people to buy teslas or does he inspire I want an EV to look to other companies? Some might be attributed to aging models or whatnot but the car people I know still say Tesla is the best bang for the buck - even if they also say 'of course, I wouldn't have bought one now'. From a company perspective, does he get more out of his newfound political influence than he loses from the increased hatred towards him, or not? He should, because a lot of his wealth is tied into its somewhat preposterous valuation. IIRC his Twitter acquisition was rather facilitated by Tesla stock, but I may be wrong there. Not saying it’s not a valuable company, but at times it’s been like valued as ahead of the next 10 ‘legacy’ manufacturers combined. You’ve kind of lucked out on a ridiculous market cap already, don’t rock the applecart. I’m genuinely curious as I think there’s some plan, I just don’t know what it is. Full of shit (or worse) as I think he is, I don’t think he’s unaware that his recent political pivots would see the sorta traditional EV buyer move away from Tesla. I may be wrong in that assessment, but if I am Musk is more delusional than I imagined. What’s the next play? Fucked if I know. If Musk hadn’t been a cunt, and had managed to get his DOGE role without alienating a ton of people, the obvious play would be to leverage that influence for advantageous conditions for his companies. But he has the leverage potentially, but without the core consumer demographics he’d need to make it pay. Which leads me to think there’s either another plan, or he’s got this one wrong. Maybe ‘buy an EV to own the libs’ becomes a thing? Maybe he’s pulling a Severus Snape and just pretending to be a dick the whole time to get conservatives to move electric! Joking aside ‘fucked if I know’ is generally my analysis here. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24157 Posts
Musk is more than $150 billion billion richer than he was on Election Day and about $160 billion wealthier than the next-closest billionaire, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos. www.forbes.com The hilariously depressing part is the article is about how Musk is "the biggest loser from Trump's tariffs". I feel like oligarchy is becoming too democratic to describe the US. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27230 Posts
On February 06 2025 23:52 GreenHorizons wrote: I think it's working out okay for Musk so far www.forbes.com The hilariously depressing part is the article is about how Musk is "the biggest loser from Trump's tariffs". I feel like oligarchy is becoming too democratic to describe the US. It’s utterly nonsensical but hey, stocks gonna stock. I remember Apple’s shares dropped a rather considerable amount when Steve Jobs announced his illness. I mean he hadn’t been particularly active for like 6 months prior and Tim Cook was doing his job anyway and nobody seemed to notice that. Insider trading is ironically the illegal part of the whole shebang but the best-informed and least speculative. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9236 Posts
A staffer for Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency whose access to U.S. Treasury payment systems was approved by a federal judge on Thursday has links to a deleted social-media account that advocated for racism and eugenics. [...] The deleted profile associated with Elez, who was embedded in the Treasury Department to carry out efficiency measures, advocated repealing the Civil Rights Act and backed a “eugenic immigration policy” in the weeks before President Trump was inaugurated. “You could not pay me to marry outside of my ethnicity,” the account wrote on X in September, according to a Wall Street Journal review of archived posts. “Normalize Indian hate,” the account wrote the same month, in reference to a post noting the prevalence of people from India in Silicon Valley. [...] “Just for the record, I was racist before it was cool,” @nullllptr posted in July. https://www.wsj.com/tech/doge-staffer-resigns-over-racist-posts-d9f11a93 Damn, Musk is so unlucky to have accidentaly brought the most competitively racist broccoli-heads on the planet into DOGE, almost as if that were a requirement. | ||
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KwarK
United States44203 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46243 Posts
On February 07 2025 11:13 Dan HH wrote: https://www.wsj.com/tech/doge-staffer-resigns-over-racist-posts-d9f11a93 Damn, Musk is so unlucky to have accidentaly brought the most competitively racist broccoli-heads on the planet into DOGE, almost as if that were a requirement. Speaking of eugenics and Nazis, I heard that Teslas are now being referred to as Swasticars. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8151 Posts
On February 07 2025 12:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Speaking of eugenics and Nazis, I heard that Teslas are now being referred to as Swasticars. I heard people call cybertrucks « wankpanzers » which is as accurate a description as it gets. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11941 Posts
On February 07 2025 13:08 Biff The Understudy wrote: I heard people call cybertrucks « wankpanzers » which is as accurate a description as it gets. Methamphetamine was very widely used by the Nazi military during the Blitzkrieg. It was apparently called "Panzerschokolade" (Tank chocolate) or "Fliegermarzipan" (Pilots marcipan) Just mentioning this because we are talking about another drugged-out Nazi. | ||
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