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On September 06 2022 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'm also German hater atm btw just because our electricity prices have gone up by about 1000% and i think it's because of you.
Well, I would say it is because of russia but you do you. At least you have reasons that have some logic to them.
It's because of your politics, more or less, blame Russia or not for shutting down your gas. Anyways, as you have seen, people who live closer to Russian border have differing, or - for you maybe - unreasonable responses to certain things. Do you wonder why Estonian, Polish, Finnish etc people mainly disagree with you and why people from like Spain and Italy are sucky sucky on how good Europe is?
On September 06 2022 04:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'm also German hater atm btw just because our electricity prices have gone up by about 1000% and i think it's because of you.
Well, I would say it is because of russia but you do you. At least you have reasons that have some logic to them.
It's because of your politics, more or less, blame Russia or not for shutting down your gas. Anyways, as you have seen, people who live closer to Russian border have differing, or - for you maybe - unreasonable responses to certain things. Do you wonder why Estonian, Polish, Finnish etc people mainly disagree with you and why people from like Spain and Italy are sucky sucky on how good Europe is?
No, I don't wonder. In hindsight becoming so dependent on russian gas was definitely a stupid move but gas is not what I am talking about. I can only reiterate that it is ultimately due to russias politics. Some people here seem to forget this sometimes.
On September 06 2022 04:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'm also German hater atm btw just because our electricity prices have gone up by about 1000% and i think it's because of you.
Well, I would say it is because of russia but you do you. At least you have reasons that have some logic to them.
It's because of your politics, more or less, blame Russia or not for shutting down your gas. Anyways, as you have seen, people who live closer to Russian border have differing, or - for you maybe - unreasonable responses to certain things. Do you wonder why Estonian, Polish, Finnish etc people mainly disagree with you and why people from like Spain and Italy are sucky sucky on how good Europe is?
No, I don't wonder. In hindsight being so dependent on russian gas was definitely a stupid move but gas is not what I am talking about. I can only reiterate that it is ultimately due to russias politics. Some people here seem to forget this sometimes.
Okay. I can't argue if you put it that way. Hopefully Finland doesn't need to pay more for your elec though. :/
On September 06 2022 03:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 00:49 Ghanburighan wrote: While we wait for news on whether UA can re-establish its sovereign rights in Kherson, it's useful to ruminate on what led to the outbreak of the conflict. Here's how German school books depict Ukraine - a hapless child with no agency. Unless we start treating everyone as fully human, with the inalienable right to self-determination, even if they come from *shudders* eastern Europe, these atrocities will continue to occur.
I don't think this picture supports your endless and relentless cause to blame everything in this conflict on Germany. It pretty clearly criticizes that people are not letting Ukraine be self-determined.
I don't think the picture can be clearly interpreted as that, however your first sentence of the post is definitely correct.
Yes, it can be. If you speak german. The text in the bubbles says: "She has the right to be self-determined!" "That's what I am saying!" Indicating that both sides do not really let Ukraine be self-determined. Equating the US and russia here somewhat is obviously not the correct thing to do but the message is clear.
See that's why i don't really think that. I understand though what the bubbles say. It might be what other people think, but go ask some Ukranian what they think of that picture. I would assume you'd get "different results", or idk maybe i am wrong. That's just what i think.
Sure, but I think what matters here is the intention behind the comic. Of course there might be Ukrainians who (for some reason) feel offended because their country is represented by a little girl. But the message is the opposite of what our resident german hater thinks it is.
I'd also like to mention that "it is in a textbook" without any context is nonsense. School textbooks, especially those for politics, often involve controversial things. Because the point is to discuss those things, and figure out the different positions involved. Not everything in a school textbook is presented as "This is the truth, memorize it for the test"
As a similar example from math (because i am more competent in that area), there are very often deliberately false reasonings involved, in the context of "Determine if what is written here is correct"
On September 06 2022 03:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 00:49 Ghanburighan wrote: While we wait for news on whether UA can re-establish its sovereign rights in Kherson, it's useful to ruminate on what led to the outbreak of the conflict. Here's how German school books depict Ukraine - a hapless child with no agency. Unless we start treating everyone as fully human, with the inalienable right to self-determination, even if they come from *shudders* eastern Europe, these atrocities will continue to occur.
I don't think this picture supports your endless and relentless cause to blame everything in this conflict on Germany. It pretty clearly criticizes that people are not letting Ukraine be self-determined.
I don't think the picture can be clearly interpreted as that, however your first sentence of the post is definitely correct.
Yes, it can be. If you speak german. The text in the bubbles says: "She has the right to be self-determined!" "That's what I am saying!" Indicating that both sides do not really let Ukraine be self-determined. Equating the US and russia here somewhat is obviously not the correct thing to do but the message is clear.
See that's why i don't really think that. I understand though what the bubbles say. It might be what other people think, but go ask some Ukranian what they think of that picture. I would assume you'd get "different results", or idk maybe i am wrong. That's just what i think.
Sure, but I think what matters here is the intention behind the comic. Of course there might be Ukrainians who (for some reason) feel offended because their country is represented by a little girl. But the message is the opposite of what our resident german hater thinks it is.
I'd also like to mention that "it is in a textbook" without any context is nonsense. School textbooks, especially those for politics, often involve controversial things. Because the point is to discuss those things, and figure out the different positions involved. Not everything in a school textbook is presented as "This is the truth, memorize it for the test"
As a similar example from math (because i am more competent in that area), there are very often deliberately false reasonings involved, in the context of "Determine if what is written here is correct"
On September 06 2022 03:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 00:49 Ghanburighan wrote: While we wait for news on whether UA can re-establish its sovereign rights in Kherson, it's useful to ruminate on what led to the outbreak of the conflict. Here's how German school books depict Ukraine - a hapless child with no agency. Unless we start treating everyone as fully human, with the inalienable right to self-determination, even if they come from *shudders* eastern Europe, these atrocities will continue to occur.
I don't think this picture supports your endless and relentless cause to blame everything in this conflict on Germany. It pretty clearly criticizes that people are not letting Ukraine be self-determined.
I don't think the picture can be clearly interpreted as that, however your first sentence of the post is definitely correct.
Yes, it can be. If you speak german. The text in the bubbles says: "She has the right to be self-determined!" "That's what I am saying!" Indicating that both sides do not really let Ukraine be self-determined. Equating the US and russia here somewhat is obviously not the correct thing to do but the message is clear.
See that's why i don't really think that. I understand though what the bubbles say. It might be what other people think, but go ask some Ukranian what they think of that picture. I would assume you'd get "different results", or idk maybe i am wrong. That's just what i think.
Sure, but I think what matters here is the intention behind the comic. Of course there might be Ukrainians who (for some reason) feel offended because their country is represented by a little girl. But the message is the opposite of what our resident german hater thinks it is.
I'd also like to mention that "it is in a textbook" without any context is nonsense. School textbooks, especially those for politics, often involve controversial things. Because the point is to discuss those things, and figure out the different positions involved. Not everything in a school textbook is presented as "This is the truth, memorize it for the test"
As a similar example from math (because i am more competent in that area), there are very often deliberately false reasonings involved, in the context of "Determine if what is written here is correct"
Are you really trying to compare those things? :O
He’s right. We had political cartoons in my history classes that certainly weren’t trying to convince us that the views in the cartoons were correct. The purpose was to discuss the cartoon, the viewpoint, what it meant in the broader context, why someone would advocate for that.
On September 06 2022 03:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 00:49 Ghanburighan wrote: While we wait for news on whether UA can re-establish its sovereign rights in Kherson, it's useful to ruminate on what led to the outbreak of the conflict. Here's how German school books depict Ukraine - a hapless child with no agency. Unless we start treating everyone as fully human, with the inalienable right to self-determination, even if they come from *shudders* eastern Europe, these atrocities will continue to occur.
I don't think this picture supports your endless and relentless cause to blame everything in this conflict on Germany. It pretty clearly criticizes that people are not letting Ukraine be self-determined.
I don't think the picture can be clearly interpreted as that, however your first sentence of the post is definitely correct.
Yes, it can be. If you speak german. The text in the bubbles says: "She has the right to be self-determined!" "That's what I am saying!" Indicating that both sides do not really let Ukraine be self-determined. Equating the US and russia here somewhat is obviously not the correct thing to do but the message is clear.
See that's why i don't really think that. I understand though what the bubbles say. It might be what other people think, but go ask some Ukranian what they think of that picture. I would assume you'd get "different results", or idk maybe i am wrong. That's just what i think.
Sure, but I think what matters here is the intention behind the comic. Of course there might be Ukrainians who (for some reason) feel offended because their country is represented by a little girl. But the message is the opposite of what our resident german hater thinks it is.
I'd also like to mention that "it is in a textbook" without any context is nonsense. School textbooks, especially those for politics, often involve controversial things. Because the point is to discuss those things, and figure out the different positions involved. Not everything in a school textbook is presented as "This is the truth, memorize it for the test"
As a similar example from math (because i am more competent in that area), there are very often deliberately false reasonings involved, in the context of "Determine if what is written here is correct"
Are you really trying to compare those things? :O
He’s right. We had political cartoons in my history classes that certainly weren’t trying to convince us that the views in the cartoons were correct. The purpose was to discuss the cartoon, the viewpoint, what it meant in the broader context, why someone would advocate for that.
Okay.
I was not talking about the cartoon anymore, but it makes sense tbh.
On September 06 2022 04:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'm also German hater atm btw just because our electricity prices have gone up by about 1000% and i think it's because of you.
Well, I would say it is because of russia but you do you. At least you have reasons that have some logic to them.
It's because of your politics, more or less, blame Russia or not for shutting down your gas. Anyways, as you have seen, people who live closer to Russian border have differing, or - for you maybe - unreasonable responses to certain things. Do you wonder why Estonian, Polish, Finnish etc people mainly disagree with you and why people from like Spain and Italy are sucky sucky on how good Europe is?
I find your point really hard to follow to be honest. On one hand, yes, Germany was naive for too long to rely on cheap Russian gas. Perhaps Merkel was naive to think that she can tame Putin somewhat by interconnecting economies. However, Germany isn't the only country dependent on Russian gas. A lot of countries failed to learn their lesson from gas disputes more than 10 years ago. Also, I don't understand your point about Europe. Europe IS good. When was the last time European nations were at war with each other since creation of NATO and EU? Besides Russia for obvious reasons
Expect to be bombarded with more anti German hate soon. There will be concentrated efforts to create as much pressure as possible in late fall and winter to switch the attitude and support towards the war and to alienate us from our allies, when shortages will be felt.
On September 06 2022 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'm also German hater atm btw just because our electricity prices have gone up by about 1000% and i think it's because of you.
Germany appears happy to sacrifice herself, it really is bizarre.
Now, worlds second largest steel maker severely cutting production at two German steel plants due to 10x rise in energy prices.Add on top of that the suicidal German government bringing in a gas levy next month.
ArcelorMittal (MT.LU) said on Friday it would switch off one of two furnaces at its steelworks in the German city of Bremen until further notice from September-end, citing the soaring cost of gas, weak market demand and a negative economic outlook.
The world's second-largest steelmaker said it will also shut down the direct reduction plant at its Hamburg steel factory from the fourth quarter of this year, while keeping workers on shorter hours at both sites.
"The high costs for gas and electricity are putting a heavy strain on our competitiveness. On top of that, from October onwards, there will be the German government's planned gas levy, which will further burden us," Reiner Blaschek, chief executive of ArcelorMittal Germany, said in a statement.
”With a tenfold increase in gas and electricity prices, which we had to accept within a few months, we are no longer competitive in a market that is 25% supplied by imports. We see an urgent need for political action to get energy prices under control immediately," he added.
What gas levy? Nothing is coming wrt gas next month in Germany.
France is massively subsidizing petrol currently. Result: Germans burn more of the rare resource to drive over to France to fill up their tank on the French tax payer's bill.
What has been catastrophic in Germany is how the government is clinging to the nuclear exit despite an energy crisis. I sort of understand that this is the founding myth of the Green party and they just can't let go. But then they are not the only party in the government. It shows once again how incredibly weak a leader Scholz is that he can't or won't reign in this madness.
Greetings from beautiful Germany, btw. Don't mistake my criticism for hate. Russia is the reason for the current problems, but Germany (mostly) used to be the primary facilitator. This is changing rapidly, much more than I imagined in my wildest dreams at the highest level but it's a long way to go, both in terms of the Wende and in restructuring. The opinions in this thread appear to be quite a few steps behind what I see at the administrative level. So, it's important to keep an eye on the prize for a little while longer.
Any Germans have the results of the German power stress test? Should have concluded recently.
Interesting from Rainer Saks, he comments on RU buying equipment and ammo (back) from North Korea. Also, Lugansk officials seem to report a massive one time loss nobody noticed until now.
Summary of September 6 - Ukraine continued to increase pressure in the Kherson region yesterday. Russian troops have not been able to escalate the offensive in Donbass, the activity of Russian troops continues to be in a downward trend. The strategic initiative remains in the hands of Ukraine. - Russian artillery fire is active near Harkivi, there is no other activity - The Izjum group remained completely inactive, the Ukrainian side would definitely have good opportunities here. - In the direction of Kramatorsk/Siversk, Russian units tried to conduct an unconvincing reconnaissance battle yesterday. The head of the Ukrainian military administration of the Luhansk region announced that the attack of the Ukrainian artillery on the Russian army stationed in the occupied Kremina a few days ago resulted in the destruction of about 400 soldiers and 100 units of equipment. The previous reports of the said official have been very accurate. However, these numbers seem very large, they have certainly not been taken into account in the daily reports of the Ukrainian General Staff about the losses of the Russian side. If all this is true, it will be one of the biggest single losses of the Russian forces in the entire war. - In the direction of Bahmut, Russian units tried to attack in four points, but in small groups and without success. - In the southern Donbass, Russian units are still trying to attack around the village of Piski, but no great success has been noticed. More important were the Ukrainian attacks in the Russian rear. - The artillery duel continues on the southern front, no major hits were reported yesterday. Crimean air defense continues to be disrupted by drones A Ukrainian special unit destroyed one of the strongholds of the FSB of the Russian Internal Security Service in the occupied area near the city of Enerhodar (the Zaporizzija nuclear plant is also located in this area) along with the materials for the referendum being prepared. This can be seen as a simple demonstration by Ukraine that they can in any case thwart any referendum or election in the occupied territories. - In the Kherson region, the Ukrainian pressure on the front seems to be in a growing trend. However, the resistance of the Russian ground forces is still far from being broken, which is why we should not expect very fast advances yet. But the Ukrainian units push the Russian defense a little further on a daily basis. The Ukrainian Air Force is much more active in the region than the Russian Air Force. Yesterday, however, new Russian air defense systems s-300 allegedly arrived near the city of Kherson. It looked like if and when Ukraine would do something about them. The crossing of the Dnieper has not been started (some ferries are still moving) and the situation of the Russian units is getting worse every day. This morning the interesting news spread that Russia has started buying artillery ammunition from North Korea. In that overmilitarized country, Russian weapons and munitions are definitely in use in huge quantities. The news, of course, refers to the exhaustion of Russia's own reserves. Logistically, it is not the easiest task, but during the last large Russian exercises, it has been possible to move the army from the Far East to the West. Currently, the Russian units have a clearly fragile situation with the equipment of the reserves. It has not been possible to respond to the Ukrainian counteroffensive in any visible way for more than a week. Individual rockets have been sent towards Ukrainian cities, but most of them have also been shot down by Ukrainian air defenses. In the areas close to the front, Russia is still able to attack Ukrainian settlements very painfully near the front lines.
6. septembri kokkuvõte - Ukraina jätkas eilse päeva jooksul surve kasvatamist Hersoni piirkonnas. Vene väed ei ole suutnud Donbassis pealetungi eskaleerida, vene vägede aktiivsus on jätkuvalt langevas trendis. Strateegiline initsiatiiv püsib Ukraina käes. - Harkivi juures vene suurtükituli on aktiivne, muu tegevus puudub - Izjumi grupeering püsis täiesti passiivne, Ukraina poolel oleks siin kindlasti head võimalused. - Kramatorski/Siverski suunal proovisid vene üksused eile ühte väheveenvat luurelahingut pidada. Luganski oblasti Ukraina sõjalise administratsiooni juhtt andis teada, et paari päeva tagune Ukraina suurtükiväe rünnak okupeeritud Kreminas asunud vene sõjaväe pihta andis tulemuseks umbes 400 sõduri ja 100 tehnika ühiku hävitamise. Nimetatud ametiisiku varasemad teated on olnud väga korrektsed. Siiski tunduvad need andmed väga suured, kindlasti ei ole neid seni arvestatud Ukraina kindralstaabi igapäevastes teadetes vene poole kaotuste kohta. Kui see kõik tõele vastab, siis on see vene vägede üks suuremaid ühekordseid kaotusi üldse kogu selles sõjas. - Bahmuti suunal üritasid vene üksused neljas punktis pealetungi, aga väikeste gruppidena ja edutult. - Lõuna-Donbassis üritavad vene üksused veel pealetungi Piski küla ümbruses, aga suurt edu ei ole märgata. Olulisemad olid Ukraina rünnakud vene tagalas. - Lõunarindel käib edasi suurtükiduell, suuri tabamusi eile ei raporteeritud. Krimmi õhukaitset häiritakse jätkuvalt droonidega Ukraina eriüksus hävitas okupeeritud alal Enerhodari linna lähedal (selles piirkonnas asub ka Zaporizzija tuumajaam) ühe vene sisejulgeolekuteenistuse FSB tugipunkti koos ettevalmistatava referendumi materjalidega. Seda võib pidada lihtsaks Ukraina poolseks demonstratsiooniks, et nad suudavad igal juhul nurjata mistahes referendumi või valimiste läbiviimise okupeeritud aladel. - Hersoni piirkonnas Ukraina surve rindel tundub olevat kasvavas trendis. Vene maavägede vastupanu ei ole siiski veel kaugeltki murtud, mispärast väga kiireid edasiliikumisi ei maksa veel oodata. Aga Ukraina üksused suruvad igapäevaselt vene kaitset natuke kaugemale. Ukraina õhuvägi on piirkonnas palju aktiivsem, kui vene oma. Eile aga väidetavalt jõudsid Hersoni linna lähistele uued vene õhutõrje kompleksid s-300. Näis, kas ja millal Ukraina midagi nendega ette võtab. Dnepri ületust ei ole käima saadud (üksikud praamid siiski liiguvad) ja vene üksuste olukord halveneb iga päevaga. Täna hommikul pääses levima huvitav uudis, et venemaa on hakanud ostma suurtükiväe moona Põhja-Koreast. Tolles ülemilitariseeritud riigis on kasutusel vene relvastus ja moona kindlasti tohututes kogustes. Uudis viitab muidugi vene enda varude ammendumisele. Logistiliselt ei ole just kõige kergem ülesanne, aga vene viimaste suurte õppuste ajal on suudetud Kaug-Idast sõjaväge läände liigutada küll. Praegu on vene üksustel reservide varustusega selgelt habras olukord. Mitte kuidagi nähtavalt ei ole suudetud vastata Ukraina vastupealetungile juba rohkem kui nädala jooksul. Üksikud raketid on suudetud saata teele Ukraina linnade suunas, aga ka nendest suurem osa on Ukraina õhukaitse alla tulistanud. Rindelaähedastel aladel suudab venemaa siiski veeel väga valusalt Ukraina asulaid rünnata.
On September 06 2022 16:31 Ghanburighan wrote: Any Germans have the results of the German power stress test? Should have concluded recently.
3 Nuclear reactors will be kept online, but like I said the last time you asked, this is mostly for regional reasons. 2 of those are in bavaria which has systematically resisted renewable energy development. I am not even sure if this wasn't just an attempt to throw the CSU a bone.
1. It seems we have three NPPs, one will go off the grid at the end of the year while two in southern Germany will stay on until April to produce when supply gets critical (but only 0.5 GW). 2. A mixed message of "outages are not probable" and "we are in a serious situation" 3. In a "very critical" situation we need about 4.6 GW of electricity imports
On September 06 2022 16:31 Ghanburighan wrote: Any Germans have the results of the German power stress test? Should have concluded recently.
3 Nuclear reactors will be kept online, but like I said the last time you asked, this is mostly for regional reasons. 2 of those are in bavaria which has systematically resisted renewable energy development. I am not even sure if this wasn't just an attempt to throw the CSU a bone.
Unfortunately, they are not being kept online.
The result of the stress test with regards to nuclear is: The remaining three nuclear plants will shut down as planned December 2022. Now, should there be a grid instability risk between January 2023 and April 2023 because of overproduction of wind energy in the North, and lack thereof in the South, then and only then are two of those nuclear plants supposed to be brought back online. And only for the mentioned period.
On September 06 2022 16:31 Ghanburighan wrote: Any Germans have the results of the German power stress test? Should have concluded recently.
3 Nuclear reactors will be kept online, but like I said the last time you asked, this is mostly for regional reasons. 2 of those are in bavaria which has systematically resisted renewable energy development. I am not even sure if this wasn't just an attempt to throw the CSU a bone.
Unfortunately, they are not being kept online.
The result of the stress test with regards to nuclear is: The remaining three nuclear plants will shut down as planned December 2022. Now, should there be a grid instability risk between January 2023 and April 2023 because of overproduction of wind energy in the North, and lack thereof in the South, then and only then are two of those nuclear plants supposed to be brought back online. And only for the mentioned period.
Thank you for that correction, I guess I should have not just read the synopsis.
On September 06 2022 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 04:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'm also German hater atm btw just because our electricity prices have gone up by about 1000% and i think it's because of you.
Well, I would say it is because of russia but you do you. At least you have reasons that have some logic to them.
It's because of your politics, more or less, blame Russia or not for shutting down your gas. Anyways, as you have seen, people who live closer to Russian border have differing, or - for you maybe - unreasonable responses to certain things. Do you wonder why Estonian, Polish, Finnish etc people mainly disagree with you and why people from like Spain and Italy are sucky sucky on how good Europe is?
No, I don't wonder. In hindsight being so dependent on russian gas was definitely a stupid move but gas is not what I am talking about. I can only reiterate that it is ultimately due to russias politics. Some people here seem to forget this sometimes.
Okay. I can't argue if you put it that way. Hopefully Finland doesn't need to pay more for your elec though. :/
Actually we were sending a lot of power to France so they didn't have a complete blackout. Blame them
This is slightly offtopic, but wouldn't technically no one to be blamed for the energy prices, but rather its the result of the 'merit order' principle of how energy is traded within the EU?
My understanding how it works is, that the most expensive energy production dictates the price for energy that you buy off the EU market, so any gas powerplant would cause the prices on the EU wide electricity market to go up. Feel free to correct me if my understanding of how merit order is implemented in the EU.
So really, if you want to blame anyone, blame the EU + Show Spoiler +
while also ignoring that, according to my understanding, on average the EU has lowered electricity prices overall and vastly improved the EU wide electricity grid and this is just exceptionally circumstances causing the system to work against us. But if I am not mistaken, there are plans to address this, and at least in some countries it is planned to take some of the energy producers winnings away again. Curiously, the announcement that we intend to do this in germany was preceded by a noticeable drop in our energy prices. Funny coincidence.
On September 06 2022 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 04:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'm also German hater atm btw just because our electricity prices have gone up by about 1000% and i think it's because of you.
Well, I would say it is because of russia but you do you. At least you have reasons that have some logic to them.
It's because of your politics, more or less, blame Russia or not for shutting down your gas. Anyways, as you have seen, people who live closer to Russian border have differing, or - for you maybe - unreasonable responses to certain things. Do you wonder why Estonian, Polish, Finnish etc people mainly disagree with you and why people from like Spain and Italy are sucky sucky on how good Europe is?
No, I don't wonder. In hindsight being so dependent on russian gas was definitely a stupid move but gas is not what I am talking about. I can only reiterate that it is ultimately due to russias politics. Some people here seem to forget this sometimes.
Okay. I can't argue if you put it that way. Hopefully Finland doesn't need to pay more for your elec though. :/
Actually we were sending a lot of power to France so they didn't have a complete blackout. Blame them
France is using currently 33% of its Nuclear capacity, so this will not be an issue during winter, currently a lot of maintenance going on with the plants. I don't know by how much it will rise, but I think at least back to 50%.
Do you know at what capacity % Olkiluoto 3 power plant is operating right now? Are they still in test phase?
EPT
