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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
September 04 2022 04:50 GMT
#4061
Russian people get interviewed about the EU-wide travel ban.

If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
September 04 2022 07:31 GMT
#4062
On September 04 2022 08:06 0x64 wrote:
Well, one thing is sure, he has 0 chance of replacing Putin, he is delusionnal enough to be thinking about it.


That's not it, he will probably get an additional job like head of rosgvardia now that shoigu is on the out
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4582 Posts
September 04 2022 08:56 GMT
#4063
On September 04 2022 16:31 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2022 08:06 0x64 wrote:
Well, one thing is sure, he has 0 chance of replacing Putin, he is delusionnal enough to be thinking about it.


That's not it, he will probably get an additional job like head of rosgvardia now that shoigu is on the out


Yes, anyway, doesn't sound like a good news, but actually the chance of him dying might grow, or might be growing significantly.

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0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4582 Posts
September 04 2022 09:12 GMT
#4064
On September 04 2022 16:31 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2022 08:06 0x64 wrote:
Well, one thing is sure, he has 0 chance of replacing Putin, he is delusionnal enough to be thinking about it.


That's not it, he will probably get an additional job like head of rosgvardia now that shoigu is on the out


I think in his mind, it is a move toward that direction, he must be dreaming to be a dictator since he was 3 yo
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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-04 21:23:35
September 04 2022 21:22 GMT
#4065
Dark blue areas represent major Ukrainian territorial advances since August 29. Russia has not made significant progress since the 29th. Smaller advances have been made by both sides in various other places.
There's some variability in the lines drawn due to imperfections in my drawing and the overlay.
[image loading]

Maps taken from here:
https://www.youtube.com/c/balkanmaping/videos
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria832 Posts
September 04 2022 21:53 GMT
#4066
I know Russia would complain a lot, but I don't care at this point. I think Ukraine needs more weapons. Otherwise, this is going at snail pace, probably years. Hopefully Lend-Lease makes a difference.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
September 05 2022 15:49 GMT
#4067
While we wait for news on whether UA can re-establish its sovereign rights in Kherson, it's useful to ruminate on what led to the outbreak of the conflict. Here's how German school books depict Ukraine - a hapless child with no agency. Unless we start treating everyone as fully human, with the inalienable right to self-determination, even if they come from *shudders* eastern Europe, these atrocities will continue to occur.

Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 05 2022 17:23 GMT
#4068
On September 06 2022 00:49 Ghanburighan wrote:
While we wait for news on whether UA can re-establish its sovereign rights in Kherson, it's useful to ruminate on what led to the outbreak of the conflict. Here's how German school books depict Ukraine - a hapless child with no agency. Unless we start treating everyone as fully human, with the inalienable right to self-determination, even if they come from *shudders* eastern Europe, these atrocities will continue to occur.

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1566798394730881025

I don't think this picture supports your endless and relentless cause to blame everything in this conflict on Germany. It pretty clearly criticizes that people are not letting Ukraine be self-determined.
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria832 Posts
September 05 2022 18:16 GMT
#4069
Russia postpones referendum in Kherson. Not sure if other regions are expected to have referendum such as Donetsk and Lugansk.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62795976
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2022 18:21 GMT
#4070
On September 06 2022 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 00:49 Ghanburighan wrote:
While we wait for news on whether UA can re-establish its sovereign rights in Kherson, it's useful to ruminate on what led to the outbreak of the conflict. Here's how German school books depict Ukraine - a hapless child with no agency. Unless we start treating everyone as fully human, with the inalienable right to self-determination, even if they come from *shudders* eastern Europe, these atrocities will continue to occur.

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1566798394730881025

I don't think this picture supports your endless and relentless cause to blame everything in this conflict on Germany. It pretty clearly criticizes that people are not letting Ukraine be self-determined.

I don't think the picture can be clearly interpreted as that, however your first sentence of the post is definitely correct.
table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 05 2022 18:27 GMT
#4071
On September 06 2022 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 00:49 Ghanburighan wrote:
While we wait for news on whether UA can re-establish its sovereign rights in Kherson, it's useful to ruminate on what led to the outbreak of the conflict. Here's how German school books depict Ukraine - a hapless child with no agency. Unless we start treating everyone as fully human, with the inalienable right to self-determination, even if they come from *shudders* eastern Europe, these atrocities will continue to occur.

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1566798394730881025

I don't think this picture supports your endless and relentless cause to blame everything in this conflict on Germany. It pretty clearly criticizes that people are not letting Ukraine be self-determined.

I don't think the picture can be clearly interpreted as that, however your first sentence of the post is definitely correct.

Yes, it can be. If you speak german.
The text in the bubbles says: "She has the right to be self-determined!" "That's what I am saying!"
Indicating that both sides do not really let Ukraine be self-determined. Equating the US and russia here somewhat is obviously not the correct thing to do but the message is clear.

{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-05 18:35:25
September 05 2022 18:29 GMT
#4072
The referendum was halted due to Ukraine destroying the building where the ballots were stored.

Also Ukraine has destroyed a BUK air defense system somewhere in Kherson. I won't post the video filmed by Russian soldiers after the attack as it is very NSFW.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2022 18:49 GMT
#4073
On September 06 2022 03:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 00:49 Ghanburighan wrote:
While we wait for news on whether UA can re-establish its sovereign rights in Kherson, it's useful to ruminate on what led to the outbreak of the conflict. Here's how German school books depict Ukraine - a hapless child with no agency. Unless we start treating everyone as fully human, with the inalienable right to self-determination, even if they come from *shudders* eastern Europe, these atrocities will continue to occur.

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1566798394730881025

I don't think this picture supports your endless and relentless cause to blame everything in this conflict on Germany. It pretty clearly criticizes that people are not letting Ukraine be self-determined.

I don't think the picture can be clearly interpreted as that, however your first sentence of the post is definitely correct.

Yes, it can be. If you speak german.
The text in the bubbles says: "She has the right to be self-determined!" "That's what I am saying!"
Indicating that both sides do not really let Ukraine be self-determined. Equating the US and russia here somewhat is obviously not the correct thing to do but the message is clear.


See that's why i don't really think that. I understand though what the bubbles say.
It might be what other people think, but go ask some Ukranian what they think of that picture.
I would assume you'd get "different results", or idk maybe i am wrong.
That's just what i think.
table for two on a tv tray
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-05 18:53:52
September 05 2022 18:52 GMT
#4074
Ukraine is now claiming that all crossings across the Dnipro river are destroyed. Meaning that a large portion of the Russian army is now trapped in Kherson. If true that is.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 05 2022 18:54 GMT
#4075
On September 06 2022 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 03:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 00:49 Ghanburighan wrote:
While we wait for news on whether UA can re-establish its sovereign rights in Kherson, it's useful to ruminate on what led to the outbreak of the conflict. Here's how German school books depict Ukraine - a hapless child with no agency. Unless we start treating everyone as fully human, with the inalienable right to self-determination, even if they come from *shudders* eastern Europe, these atrocities will continue to occur.

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1566798394730881025

I don't think this picture supports your endless and relentless cause to blame everything in this conflict on Germany. It pretty clearly criticizes that people are not letting Ukraine be self-determined.

I don't think the picture can be clearly interpreted as that, however your first sentence of the post is definitely correct.

Yes, it can be. If you speak german.
The text in the bubbles says: "She has the right to be self-determined!" "That's what I am saying!"
Indicating that both sides do not really let Ukraine be self-determined. Equating the US and russia here somewhat is obviously not the correct thing to do but the message is clear.


See that's why i don't really think that. I understand though what the bubbles say.
It might be what other people think, but go ask some Ukranian what they think of that picture.
I would assume you'd get "different results", or idk maybe i am wrong.
That's just what i think.

Sure, but I think what matters here is the intention behind the comic. Of course there might be Ukrainians who (for some reason) feel offended because their country is represented by a little girl. But the message is the opposite of what our resident german hater thinks it is.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2022 18:56 GMT
#4076
On September 06 2022 03:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 00:49 Ghanburighan wrote:
While we wait for news on whether UA can re-establish its sovereign rights in Kherson, it's useful to ruminate on what led to the outbreak of the conflict. Here's how German school books depict Ukraine - a hapless child with no agency. Unless we start treating everyone as fully human, with the inalienable right to self-determination, even if they come from *shudders* eastern Europe, these atrocities will continue to occur.

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1566798394730881025

I don't think this picture supports your endless and relentless cause to blame everything in this conflict on Germany. It pretty clearly criticizes that people are not letting Ukraine be self-determined.

I don't think the picture can be clearly interpreted as that, however your first sentence of the post is definitely correct.

Yes, it can be. If you speak german.
The text in the bubbles says: "She has the right to be self-determined!" "That's what I am saying!"
Indicating that both sides do not really let Ukraine be self-determined. Equating the US and russia here somewhat is obviously not the correct thing to do but the message is clear.


See that's why i don't really think that. I understand though what the bubbles say.
It might be what other people think, but go ask some Ukranian what they think of that picture.
I would assume you'd get "different results", or idk maybe i am wrong.
That's just what i think.

Sure, but I think what matters here is the intention behind the comic. Of course there might be Ukrainians who (for some reason) feel offended because their country is represented by a little girl. But the message is the opposite of what our resident german hater thinks it is.

Oh i agree to that for sure.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2022 18:58 GMT
#4077
I'm also German hater atm btw just because our electricity prices have gone up by about 1000% and i think it's because of you.
table for two on a tv tray
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5656 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-05 19:01:28
September 05 2022 18:59 GMT
#4078
On September 06 2022 03:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 00:49 Ghanburighan wrote:
While we wait for news on whether UA can re-establish its sovereign rights in Kherson, it's useful to ruminate on what led to the outbreak of the conflict. Here's how German school books depict Ukraine - a hapless child with no agency. Unless we start treating everyone as fully human, with the inalienable right to self-determination, even if they come from *shudders* eastern Europe, these atrocities will continue to occur.

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1566798394730881025

I don't think this picture supports your endless and relentless cause to blame everything in this conflict on Germany. It pretty clearly criticizes that people are not letting Ukraine be self-determined.

I don't think the picture can be clearly interpreted as that, however your first sentence of the post is definitely correct.

Yes, it can be. If you speak german.
The text in the bubbles says: "She has the right to be self-determined!" "That's what I am saying!"
Indicating that both sides do not really let Ukraine be self-determined. Equating the US and russia here somewhat is obviously not the correct thing to do but the message is clear.


Yes, and the message is some vile propaganda. It's in the same vein as "Americans will fight to the last Ukrainian" or "NATO is starting color revolutions all around Russia" bullshit.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2022 19:02 GMT
#4079
On September 06 2022 03:59 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 03:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 06 2022 00:49 Ghanburighan wrote:
While we wait for news on whether UA can re-establish its sovereign rights in Kherson, it's useful to ruminate on what led to the outbreak of the conflict. Here's how German school books depict Ukraine - a hapless child with no agency. Unless we start treating everyone as fully human, with the inalienable right to self-determination, even if they come from *shudders* eastern Europe, these atrocities will continue to occur.

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1566798394730881025

I don't think this picture supports your endless and relentless cause to blame everything in this conflict on Germany. It pretty clearly criticizes that people are not letting Ukraine be self-determined.

I don't think the picture can be clearly interpreted as that, however your first sentence of the post is definitely correct.

Yes, it can be. If you speak german.
The text in the bubbles says: "She has the right to be self-determined!" "That's what I am saying!"
Indicating that both sides do not really let Ukraine be self-determined. Equating the US and russia here somewhat is obviously not the correct thing to do but the message is clear.


Yes, and the message is some vile propaganda. It's in the same vein as "Americans will fight to the last Ukrainian" or "NATO is starting color revolutions all around Russia" bullshit.

See? What gives?
table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
September 05 2022 19:17 GMT
#4080
On September 06 2022 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'm also German hater atm btw just because our electricity prices have gone up by about 1000% and i think it's because of you.

Well, I would say it is because of russia but you do you. At least you have reasons that have some logic to them.
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