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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
August 24 2007 09:56 GMT
#61
so how exacly will the world end?

black hole?
sun go out?
oxygen run out?
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 24 2007 09:57 GMT
#62
On August 24 2007 18:55 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
* Polar Shift is a theory that on December 21st 2012 Earth will be in line with the sun and a *Black Hole that is at the center of our galaxy the Milky Way, All these actions may cause earths poles change move position, or have an affect on Earth's magnetic field which might cause the loss of Earth's atmosphere, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions or other natural disasters.

There is absolutely no evidence or any reason under our current understanding of physics why those events should have any effect on the earths magnetic field. Gravity, the only force that is exerted on earth from those objects, would have no role in the alignment of magnetic fields. Although it is true that scientists have found evidence that the earth's poles DO flip-flop it is generally regarded to be a matter of geology rather than cosmology. However it would not cause earthquakes or volcanic eruptions, although there would be some loss of atmosphere.


magnetic shifting could have many disastrous effects, I was not saying I believe any of this shit. All I'm saying is there is a lot of crazy shit happening in this year.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 09:58:44
August 24 2007 09:57 GMT
#63
On August 24 2007 18:56 pyrogenetix wrote:
so how exacly will the world end?

black hole?
sun go out?
oxygen run out?




Got a few hours to kill?

http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm

http://www.exitmundi.nl/Maya.htm
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 10:14:39
August 24 2007 09:58 GMT
#64
On August 24 2007 16:11 CharlieMurphy wrote:
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2007 14:36 OhThatDang wrote:
On August 24 2007 14:31 Coagulation wrote:
On August 24 2007 14:25 CaucasianAsian wrote:
They say the sun will be centered of the galaxy? wtf is this bullshti?

[image loading]


That's 27million lightyears away. We have atleast 27 million times the speed of light, years left. I'll take my chances that it's not in 2012.


how did we take a picture of our galaxy 27 million light years away?


conspiracy

I've always wondered how they took pictures of our galaxy(obviously, parts of it have been photographed..I mean even the moon would qualify as a part) from a distance when we are in the middle of it. My guess is either they find a spot that can reflect the shot back like a mirror (i doubt it ) or they just take all the pictures from all directions and combine them and make an accurate fabrication picture.

Umm? Just so it's clear, they havent taken any pictures of our own galaxy. They simply know what it looks like through telescopic observation and then use computer rendering to create the images.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 24 2007 10:04 GMT
#65
On August 24 2007 18:58 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2007 16:11 CharlieMurphy wrote:
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/

On August 24 2007 14:36 OhThatDang wrote:
On August 24 2007 14:31 Coagulation wrote:
On August 24 2007 14:25 CaucasianAsian wrote:
They say the sun will be centered of the galaxy? wtf is this bullshti?

[image loading]


That's 27million lightyears away. We have atleast 27 million times the speed of light, years left. I'll take my chances that it's not in 2012.


how did we take a picture of our galaxy 27 million light years away?


conspiracy

I've always wondered how they took pictures of our galaxy from a distance when we are in the middle of it. My guess is either they find a spot that can reflect the shot back like a mirror (i doubt it ) or they just take all the pictures from all directions and combine them and make an accurate fabrication picture.

Umm? Just so it's clear, they havent taken any pictures of our own galaxy. They simply know what it looks like through telescopic observation and then use computer rendering to create the images.


O RLY?

http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmakers/The Milky Way Galaxy.html
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 24 2007 10:06 GMT
#66
On August 24 2007 18:49 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2007 18:43 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On August 24 2007 18:38 CharlieMurphy wrote:
The thing is though pyro and ForeverWar, The Mayans have always been renowned as expert astronomers and mathematicians (especially for their time). So this is one of the bigger more well known end world predictions.

I'm not saying I believe it but I think that date actually does play a big role in actual scientific happenings with the planet regardless.

Are you serious man? Yes they were expert astronomers and mathematicians FOR THEIR TIME. They didnt even have telescopes. By today's standards their mathematics and astronomy are woefully pathetic. Besides you're missing the main point: Astrology is bullshit. What sort of "scientific happenings" could possibly considered as a "big role"? Also, because I'm a dick, weren't you the one who was deeply puzzled by how we "got a picture" of the milky way galaxy? So perhaps your reasoning abilities aren't the best?

All those events in astronomy you mention, although interesting, especially for those interested in sky gazing, hold absoulutely NO significance what so ever. It would be like me trying to attach great meaning to a solar eclipse. It's simply a natural progession of neuton's laws and natural celestial orbits.


no, you misunderstood. I don't believe in astrology (although most of my friends/ex-gf are cancers). And besides astrology has nothing to do with Mayan prediction. And what I meant is that Mayan astronomers were very good even for OUR time. They had solar eclipses and equinoxes all perfectly timed with a margin of like 30 seconds. Thats pretty damn good for 'no telescopes' don't you think?

And I was not the one puzzled about the milky way picture, re-read my post. I suggested that its either a concept photo or (unlikely) a reflected real photo.

PS- Why are you attacking me? mad from the all the BB losses?

The mayans, like all ancient cultures were obsessed with sky gazing(which makes sense, seeing as it would have been an astounding and awe inspiring mystery). Ecipses and equinoxes happen IN REGULAR PATERNS. So after developing a calender system and compiling data it would only be natural for these things to become very easy to predict. It doesn't require a great amount of skill or knowledge. Only time. Astrology DOES have something to do with the Mayan prediction. It involves the alignment of the celestial bodies holding sway over the lives of humans and the belief that predictions can be made from these alignments. That's astrology. If you honestly believe that Mayan astronomers were good, "even for our time", then you are a LOT dumber than I thought
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 10:15:21
August 24 2007 10:08 GMT
#67
Ok lets see you calculate sunrise and sundown for every day, including solar/lunar eclipses and any other shit. (without a calculator or the internet).

"You can say a lot about the Maya, but you've got to hand it to them: they knew a hell of a lot about stars. For instance, they calculated the exact duration of a year to a thousandth of a decimal point"

"More disturbing, the Maya's were awfully good at astrology, too. Mysteriously, they predicted in what year their civilization would be overrun by foreigners coming from over the seas. "

"But actually, the Maya's never predicted anything concrete about 2012."

"The Maya's didn't really believed in endings: their conception of time was circular, with every end being the beginning of something new. So, 2012 shouldn't be an exception."
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 24 2007 10:08 GMT
#68
On August 24 2007 19:04 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2007 18:58 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On August 24 2007 16:11 CharlieMurphy wrote:
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/

On August 24 2007 14:36 OhThatDang wrote:
On August 24 2007 14:31 Coagulation wrote:
On August 24 2007 14:25 CaucasianAsian wrote:
They say the sun will be centered of the galaxy? wtf is this bullshti?

[image loading]


That's 27million lightyears away. We have atleast 27 million times the speed of light, years left. I'll take my chances that it's not in 2012.


how did we take a picture of our galaxy 27 million light years away?


conspiracy

I've always wondered how they took pictures of our galaxy from a distance when we are in the middle of it. My guess is either they find a spot that can reflect the shot back like a mirror (i doubt it ) or they just take all the pictures from all directions and combine them and make an accurate fabrication picture.

Umm? Just so it's clear, they havent taken any pictures of our own galaxy. They simply know what it looks like through telescopic observation and then use computer rendering to create the images.


O RLY?

http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmakers/The Milky Way Galaxy.html

Lol dude this is ONE PART WITHIN the Milky Way Galaxy. I'm talking about THE ENTIRE Milky Way galaxy. There are no pictures of the galaxy in its entirety. Obivously its VERY EASY to take a picture of a part of the galaxy from earth. Are you really that dense?=/
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 24 2007 10:09 GMT
#69
Thats what I fuckin said, They took a bunch of pictures and compiled them to make an scientific depiction.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 24 2007 10:10 GMT
#70
On August 24 2007 19:08 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Ok lets see you calculate sunrise and sundown for every day, including solar/lunar eclipses and any other shit. (without a calculator or the internet).

No thanks? I'm not an astonomer. How would my inability to do this prove any of your points?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 24 2007 10:13 GMT
#71
On August 24 2007 19:10 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2007 19:08 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Ok lets see you calculate sunrise and sundown for every day, including solar/lunar eclipses and any other shit. (without a calculator or the internet).

No thanks? I'm not an astonomer. How would my inability to do this prove any of your points?

you can stop trolling now.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 10:21:37
August 24 2007 10:15 GMT
#72
On August 24 2007 19:13 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2007 19:10 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On August 24 2007 19:08 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Ok lets see you calculate sunrise and sundown for every day, including solar/lunar eclipses and any other shit. (without a calculator or the internet).

No thanks? I'm not an astonomer. How would my inability to do this prove any of your points?

you can stop trolling now.

I'm not trolling. You've made statements with which I disagree, I'm debating them.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 24 2007 10:21 GMT
#73
On August 24 2007 19:08 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Ok lets see you calculate sunrise and sundown for every day, including solar/lunar eclipses and any other shit. (without a calculator or the internet).

"You can say a lot about the Maya, but you've got to hand it to them: they knew a hell of a lot about stars. For instance, they calculated the exact duration of a year to a thousandth of a decimal point"

"More disturbing, the Maya's were awfully good at astrology, too. Mysteriously, they predicted in what year their civilization would be overrun by foreigners coming from over the seas. "

"But actually, the Maya's never predicted anything concrete about 2012."

"The Maya's didn't really believed in endings: their conception of time was circular, with every end being the beginning of something new. So, 2012 shouldn't be an exception."

In regards to their "astrological talent". Source/evidence? Well, their civilization was overrun over many many years mainly through infectious disease brought by the spainards, so that's inaccurate too. It wasn't in any single year.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 24 2007 10:21 GMT
#74


lol
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
August 24 2007 10:25 GMT
#75
if the world ended before 2012 then there will be no one around to laught at the people that were wrong about the predictions
FlashDave.999 aka Star
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 10:27:15
August 24 2007 10:26 GMT
#76
ForeverWar, You could also claim that they destroyed themselves by raping their lands. But the initial contact year is most significant.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 24 2007 10:38 GMT
#77
On August 24 2007 19:26 CharlieMurphy wrote:
ForeverWar, You could also claim that they destroyed themselves by raping their lands. But the initial contact year is most significant.

How could you claim that(there's no evidence of this)? Why is the initial contact year the most significant? Can you even show me that this was accurately predicted?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7326 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 10:49:04
August 24 2007 10:47 GMT
#78
actually it they dont predict the end of the world (according to people who refute this claim) Its the end of an "age" and thats the calender they found. They have numbers for dates higher than 2012, the world wont end. The mayans didnt know any more about the earth than we do today.

Also the magnetic shift of the poles has happened TONS of times in the past and life has gone on so the poles shifting actually wont mean much, we may get a little more solar radiation than usual but the atmosphere should protect us from most of it.
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 24 2007 11:10 GMT
#79
On August 24 2007 19:47 Sadist wrote:
actually it they dont predict the end of the world (according to people who refute this claim) Its the end of an "age" and thats the calender they found. They have numbers for dates higher than 2012, the world wont end. The mayans didnt know any more about the earth than we do today.

Also the magnetic shift of the poles has happened TONS of times in the past and life has gone on so the poles shifting actually wont mean much, we may get a little more solar radiation than usual but the atmosphere should protect us from most of it.

Yay logic.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3996 Posts
August 24 2007 11:18 GMT
#80
I will probably die in 2010 anyway...

And how many times would the earth have ended if it were for people predicting the future?
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