EPTWorld will end on 2012 - Page 3
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nortydog
Australia3067 Posts
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
On August 24 2007 14:31 Coagulation wrote: how did we take a picture of our galaxy 27 million light years away? conspiracy | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11568 Posts
On August 24 2007 14:26 draeger wrote: So how many predictions from various groups of people have came and gone since then? People seme to quickly forget everybody who predicted the world to end before today but still make a big fuss about the next upcoming prediction. The late Moses David (formerly David Berg) was the founder of the Christian religious group, The Children of God. He predicted that a comet would hit the earth, probably in the mid 1970's and destroy all life in the United States. Lindsey boldly declared that "The Rapture" would occur before Dec. 31, 1981, based on Christian prophesy, astronomy and a dash of ecological fatalism. He pegged the date to Jesus' promised to return to Earth a generation after Israel's rebirth. He also made references to the "Jupiter Effect," a planetary alignment that occurs every 179 years, that would supposedly lead to earthquakes and nuclear plant meltdowns. It was all going to end in 1982, when the planets lined up and created magnetic forces that would bring Armageddon to the earth. In 1992, David Koresh of the Branch Davidian group in Waco Texas changed the name of their commune from Mt. Carmel to Ranch Apocalypse, because of his belief that the final all-encompassing battle of Armageddon mentioned in the Bible would start at the Branch Davidian compound. They had calculated that the end would occur in 1995. After a 51-day standoff, on 1993-APR-10, 76 members died as a result of a deliberately set fire. A Korean group called Mission For The Coming Days had the Korea Church a buzz in the fall of 1992. They foresaw Oct 28, 1992 as the time for the Rapture. Numerology was the basis for the date. Several camera shots that left ghostly images on pictures was thought to be a supernatural confirmation of the date. If the year 2000 is the end of the 6000 year cycle, then the rapture must take place in 1993, because you would need 7 years of the tribulation. This was the thinking of a number of prophecy writers. End of world; Implied in Hal Lindsay's revision. 1st said 1948+40=1988; Later Israel did not have land until 1967 War; 1967+40=2007; Rapture seven years earlier. Also now says generation from 60-80 yrs. Puts it also at 2040, 2047 Charles Spiegel, a retired psychology professor, preaches from a small town near San Diego CA that the ancient land of Atlantis will emerge from the Caribbean circa 2001 CE. Shortly thereafter, 1000 extra-terrestrials from "Myton" in 33 spaceships will land there and bring new knowledge to humanity. I'm feeling lucky about 2012! | ||
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
I've always wondered how they took pictures of our galaxy from a distance when we are in the middle of it. My guess is either they find a spot that can reflect the shot back like a mirror (i doubt it ) or they just take all the pictures from all directions and combine them and make an accurate fabrication picture. | ||
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StripedBlueCrow
United States506 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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PanoRaMa
United States5068 Posts
On August 24 2007 16:21 StripedBlueCrow wrote: I thought it ended in 2004.. haha  | ||
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gLyo
United States2410 Posts
On August 24 2007 16:11 CharlieMurphy wrote: http://zeitgeistmovie.com/ I've always wondered how they took pictures of our galaxy from a distance when we are in the middle of it. My guess is either they find a spot that can reflect the shot back like a mirror (i doubt it ) or they just take all the pictures from all directions and combine them and make an accurate fabrication picture. It's impossible to take pictures of our own galaxy from the outside. You'd have to be thousands or millions of light years away to capture the whole thing. It is known what the galaxy looks like, however (except for whats in the "shadow" of the center of the galaxy), and you can find some simplistic renderings of where Earth is located (Earth is on the edge). | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On August 24 2007 13:04 XDawn wrote: Basically it's about how the Mayans have predicted the end of the world which is in 21st of December, 2012; astrologically. and such. which I don't know much about. hence I don't know if this would be true or not. hence I posted this. *smiley*. And so on. Discuss? Part 1 (There are 5 parts) Astrology is a pseudo science, and complete bullshit. Honestly you really have to be a complete idiot to believe this is possible. There's nothing to discuss. To CharlieMurphy, it's not a picture lol..have you heard of something called "computer graphics"?  The history channel is obviously desperate for ratings. "How could the mayans have predicted the exact date of doomsday with such accuracy?" -Narrator. LMAO? I say the world will end in 2027 on September 27th at 12:13 am. WOW how could TheForeverWar have predicted the exact date of doomsday with such accuracy!? | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
mostly spiritual mumbo-jumbo + superstition however, it's kind of weird just how many different religions and spiritual beliefs are converging to a large-scale world event in 2012 oh and my friend who's mad into this shit, apparently talked to some spirit and Bush dies in 2012 lol? | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
On August 24 2007 17:36 Plexa wrote: oh and my friend who's mad into this shit, apparently talked to some spirit and Bush dies in 2012 lol? Well, the world is ending. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
I believe George Carlin had a well written piece on this in one of his books. | ||
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oshibori_probe
United States2932 Posts
On August 24 2007 13:37 skindzer wrote: This as stupid as saying that according to the greeks world will end on the 31th of december -_-, fucking new age. thankfully the 31th of any month will never occur 31st ftw | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On August 24 2007 17:36 Plexa wrote: There is many sources of 'evidence' supporting the claim that the world will end in 2012 - mostly spiritual mumbo-jumbo + superstition however, it's kind of weird just how many different religions and spiritual beliefs are converging to a large-scale world event in 2012 oh and my friend who's mad into this shit, apparently talked to some spirit and Bush dies in 2012 lol? Yes well they also have made claims for MANY other years as well. Guess what? They were almost all wrong | ||
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pyrogenetix
United Arab Emirates5090 Posts
so far i can remember people have said that 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006 were going to be the end of the world and shit i dont even pay attention to this crap | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
I'm not saying I believe it but I think that date actually does play a big role in actual scientific happenings with the planet regardless. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012 # January 31 — 433 Eros, the second largest Near Earth Object on record (size 13x13x33 km) is expected to pass Earth at 0.1790 astronomical units (~16.647 Million Miles). NASA studied Eros in the NEAR Shoemaker probe launched February 2000. [3] June 6 — Second and last solar transit of the planet Venus of this century; the next pair is predicted to occur in 2117 and 2125 (see Transit of Venus, 2012). October * October 19 — at 1:36 UTC, the Earth will be home to 7 billion people, according to the US Census Bureau. [5] [6] # November 6 — United States presidential election, 2012 November 13 — Total solar eclipse (visible in northern Australia and the South Pacific). (as well as many other large elections in other countries) # December 3 — Jupiter oppositions. # December 21 — The Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, notably used by the Maya civilization among others of pre-Columbian Mesoamerica, completes its thirteenth b'ak'tun cycle since the calendar's mythical starting point (equivalent to 3114 BC August 11 in the proleptic Gregorian calendar, according to the "GMT-correlation" JDN= 584283).[1] The Long Count b'ak'tun date of this starting point (13.0.0.0.0) is repeated, for the first time in a span of approximately 5,125 solar years. The significance of this period-ending to the pre-Columbian Maya themselves is unclear, and there is an incomplete inscription (Tortuguero Stela 6) that records this date. It is also to be found carved on the walls of the Temple of Inscriptions in Palenque, where it functions as a base date from which other dates are computed.[2] However, it is conjectured that this may represent in the Maya belief system a transition from the current Creation world into the next. The December solstice for 2012 also occurs on this day. # December 23 — The alternative date for the completion of the thirteenth b'ak'tun cycle in the Maya calendar, using a version of the GMT-correlation based on a JDN of 584285 (a.k.a. the "Lounsbury correlation"), which is supported by a smaller number of Mayanist researchers.[3] NASA's new Orion spacecraft is scheduled to become fully operational for International Space Station support flights. # NASA predicts that the Sun will also reverse its own magnetic poles during 2012 as result of reaching the end of the current 11-year sunspot cycle. [9] In 2012, asteroid 2004MN4 comes into view again to recalculate odds of impact. Metaphysical predictions 2012 is sometimes claimed to be a great year of spiritual transformation (or apocalypse). Many esoteric sources interpret the completion of the thirteenth B'ak'tun cycle in the Long Count of the Maya calendar (which occurs on December 21 by the most widely held correlation) to mean there will be a major change in world order. * Polar Shift is a theory that on December 21st 2012 Earth will be in line with the sun and a *Black Hole that is at the center of our galaxy the Milky Way, All these actions may cause earths poles change move position, or have an affect on Earth's magnetic field which might cause the loss of Earth's atmosphere, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions or other natural disasters. Accordingly, several eclectic authors claim that a major, world-changing event will take place in 2012: * The 1995 book The Mayan Prophecies linked the Maya calendar with long-period sunspot cycles. * The book 2012: Mayan Year of Destiny claims the Maya may have been instructed in their wisdom by discarnate entities from Orion and the Pleiades. Contact was maintained through shamanic rituals conducted in accordance with the movements of planets and stars. * However, Mayan priests living and working in Guatemala aver that the so-called Mayan Prophecy for 2012, as touted by various foreign New Agers who have no knowledge of Mayan culture, language, or religion, is twaddle. * The 1997 book The Bible Code claims that, according to certain algorithms of the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid or comet will collide with the Earth. * The book The Nostradamus Code speaks of a series of natural disasters caused by a comet (possibly as above) that will allow the third Antichrist to disperse his troops around the globe under the guise of aid in preparation for a possible nuclear war, although in the strictest sense it is unspecific as to nuclear war or some other natural or man caused destruction. * The book The Orion Prophecy claims that the Earth's magnetic field will reverse. * The 2005 book Beyond 2012: Catastrophe or Ecstasy by Geoff Stray reviews several theories, prophecies and predictions concerning 2012 and finds where authors have used faulty information or have bent the truth to fit their theories. * The 2006 book 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by Daniel Pinchbeck discusses theories of a possible global awakening to psychic connection by the year 2012, creating a noosphere. * The 2007 book Apocalypse 2012: A Scientific Investigation into Civilization's End by Lawrence Joseph does not make any specific new predictions, but it reviews a number of 2012 predictions made by various sources, and presents arguments for the possible existence of dangerous positive feedback loops involving solar storms, Earth's magnetic field, cosmic rays, hurricanes, global warming, earthquakes, and supervolcanoes that may be on the verge of erupting. Other prophecies and apocalyptic writings and hypotheses for this year include: * Terence McKenna's mathematical novelty theory suggests a point of singularity in which humankind will go through a great shift in consciousness. * The Prophecy of the Popes, attributed to Saint Malachy, speculated that Pope Benedict XVI would reign during the beginning of the tribulation of which Jesus spoke, and sometime later a future pope described in the prophecy as "Peter the Roman", the last in this prophetic list, would appear, bringing as a result the destruction of the city of Rome and the Last Judgment. * Some proponents of a peak oil catastrophe place major events in 2012. Richard C. Duncan's book The Peak of World Oil Production and the Road To The Olduvai Gorge claims that the Olduvai cliff will begin and permanent blackouts will occur worldwide. Several studies predict a peak in oil production in or around 2012. [10] [11] [12] * Some alien-enthusiasts (e.g. Riley Martin), along with some new-agers, believe 2012 to correspond approximately with the return of alien "watchers" or "caretakers" who might have helped the first human civilizations with developing their technology and may have been waiting for us to reach a higher level of technological and/or social advancement. Beliefs range from the extra-terrestrials having benevolent purposes — such as to help human society evolve — to malevolent purposes — such as enslavement of mankind and/or manipulation. * There is a Hindu following indicating the appearance of an Avatar (God in human form) with God-like powers who will herald a new age. A website to this effect appears at: End of the World 2012. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On August 24 2007 18:38 CharlieMurphy wrote: The thing is though pyro and ForeverWar, The Mayans have always been renowned as expert astronomers and mathematicians (especially for their time). So this is one of the bigger more well known end world predictions. I'm not saying I believe it but I think that date actually does play a big role in actual scientific happenings with the planet regardless. Are you serious man? Yes they were expert astronomers and mathematicians FOR THEIR TIME. However, they didnt even have telescopes. By today's standards their mathematics and astronomy are woefully pathetic. Besides you're missing the main point: Astrology is bullshit. What sort of "scientific happenings" could possibly be considered as a "big role"? Also, because I'm a dick, weren't you the one who was deeply puzzled by how we "got a picture" of the milky way galaxy? So perhaps your reasoning abilities aren't the best? All those events you mention, although interesting, especially for hold absoulutely NO significance what so ever. It would be like me trying to attach great meaning to a solar eclipse simply because it feel on a election year. That's rediculous. It's simply a natural progession of neuton's laws and natural celestial orbits that happen, through pure chance, to coincide with a political event. Whoop dee freakin doo | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On August 24 2007 18:43 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Are you serious man? Yes they were expert astronomers and mathematicians FOR THEIR TIME. They didnt even have telescopes. By today's standards their mathematics and astronomy are woefully pathetic. Besides you're missing the main point: Astrology is bullshit. What sort of "scientific happenings" could possibly considered as a "big role"? Also, because I'm a dick, weren't you the one who was deeply puzzled by how we "got a picture" of the milky way galaxy? So perhaps your reasoning abilities aren't the best? All those events in astronomy you mention, although interesting, especially for those interested in sky gazing, hold absoulutely NO significance what so ever. It would be like me trying to attach great meaning to a solar eclipse. It's simply a natural progession of neuton's laws and natural celestial orbits. no, you misunderstood. I don't believe in astrology (although most of my friends/ex-gf are cancers). And besides astrology has nothing to do with Mayan prediction. And what I meant is that Mayan astronomers were very good even for OUR time. They had solar eclipses and equinoxes all perfectly timed with a margin of like 30 seconds. Thats pretty damn good for 'no telescopes' don't you think? And I was not the one puzzled about the milky way picture, re-read my post. I suggested that its either a concept photo or (unlikely) a reflected real photo. PS- Why are you attacking me? mad from the all the BB losses? | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
There is absolutely no evidence or any reason under our current understanding of physics why those events should have any effect on the earths magnetic field. Gravity, the only force that is exerted on earth from those objects, would have no role in the alignment of magnetic fields. Although it is true that scientists have found evidence that the earth's poles DO flip-flop it is generally regarded to be a matter of geology rather than cosmology. However it would not cause earthquakes or volcanic eruptions, although there would be some loss of atmosphere. And no I don't care about the BB loses lol(keep in mind I won easily the only time I used my main race...). Are you serious? I'm attacking you because your posts are ignorant | ||
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