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On August 24 2007 20:18 aseq wrote:
I will probably die in 2010 anyway...
And how many times would the earth have ended if it were for people predicting the future?
literally the mayans have one of the last ones left if ive read correctly.
They may infact be the last old end of the world prediction (which has a specific date, not the nutty evangelists who are waiting for jesus)
This is in terms of calender dates, not specific end of the world sequences of religions because obviously we cannot really expect them to a) happen and b) know when they are supposed to happen and call bullshit when the date passes.
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On August 24 2007 20:19 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2007 20:18 aseq wrote:
I will probably die in 2010 anyway...
And how many times would the earth have ended if it were for people predicting the future? literally the mayans have one of the last ones left if ive read correctly. They may infact be the last old end of the world prediction (which has a specific date, not the nutty evangelists who are waiting for jesus) This is in terms of calender dates, not specific end of the world sequences of religions because obviously we cannot really expect them to a) happen and b) know when they are supposed to happen and call bullshit when the date passes.
Really? They better be right, or I'll be disappointed
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On August 24 2007 14:25 CaucasianAsian wrote:They say the sun will be centered of the galaxy? wtf is this bullshti? That's 27million lightyears away. We have atleast 27 million times the speed of light, years left. I'll take my chances that it's not in 2012.
you have so many mistakes in there I don't know where to start.
The milky way is 100 000 Lightyears in diameter, not 27 million.
Our solar system is on one of the outer branches though, which makes for approx. 40k LY away from the center.
Still, if you wanted to calculate the time it takes in order for our sun to move into the centre of the galaxy, even at the speed of light, which is impossible anyway, it's not 40k TIMES speed of light, but divided by SOL. Which makes, you guessed it, exactly 40k years.
The 27 million LY either comes from "this perspective shows the milky way from a distance of 27 mil LY" or "this galaxy looks like the milky way and is 27 mil LY away".
Pffft, amateur.
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On topic:
I just hope the world doesn't end in 2012. I planned on getting laid again before I die.
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On August 24 2007 13:33 haduken wrote:
What happens if the world doesn't end by then? O_o
we wait for the next date, and so forth. we've been doing it for 3000 years np
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LOL humans and their fascination about life and death.
Come on, is it so hard to just enjoy your time here?
If the world ends by 2012, and you truly believe that, I'd start living my life and stop bothering with those fools who rely on LOGIC and REASON. What do they know anyway.
Why discuss stuff we already KNOW is true, when we could just spend our time partying. Let those scientist do their stuff and try to disprove us, we know better, right?
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I plan to have a huge party on this date and run through the streets dressed as a Mayan just as it hits midnight
The only end of the world scenario that had any merit to it in recent memory was y2k
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Bullcrap, how the fuck can the MAYANS(of all people) predict the ending of the world a couple of thousand years in the future???? eh? EH?
They might have been smart and advanced for their age but thats plain bullcrap.
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I hope it's the aliens who kill us. Everything else would be plain boring.
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they were wrong. Their world ended much before that T_T
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Lol.... end times predictions. If anyone was following it, Pat Robertson announced on the 700 club early this year that by June 07 there would be a terrible attack on America, (probably nuclear), and that it would trigger the end times. Apparently God told him that.
Last I checked that one also didn't happen.
Thousands of retards have predicted the end of the world over the years. Why? Because all of them thought, for one reason or another, that the world eventually would end; that some cosmic god would come down and destroy everything.
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Lol God totally pulled a Strafe on that Robertson dude.
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I finally got through it from start to finish and I shall conclude that from my perspective this is a piece of emotional propaganda, the facts are not really discussed in a rational term, when listening to the words you hear lots of if, maybe, possible and this event happened so it means it must be because of what the prophets say - they take general passages, such as settling down, famine, times of sadness and times of change then relate these vague sentences to actual events that occurred somewhere in the world (which happens everyday, to each and everyone of us) then those events are claim as "mightve" been predicted. However at the end of the footage when they come to the dooms day date, because its so specific December 21st 2012 they distance themselves from it completely, they say maybe the world will not end on that date but give or take a decade thats a 20 year gap to find an event to claim as dooms day. Another claim is that it wont be the "end" something will continue afterwards as the calendar "suggests"
So rationally what are they really trying to say? -
Its a dooms day that is not really a dooms day?
What I feel they are aiming to suggest is: the world is going to end (as we didnt already know) and "maybe" the answers are there in these prophets, so come and get involved into this ideology/faith to try and save us or yourself.
This brings me onto another point, even the story indirectly demonstrates that these predictions can be misinterpreted, "the white mans return" example, if the Miya could predict what was going to happen then they wouldve killed the Spanish there and then, so the predictions they made are not accurately interrupted. Because they were happy to see him and not angry like they shouldve known. But lets suppose they somehow predicted the events correctly and assume that the Spanish purge event was meant to happen as it follows the calendar and the Miya knew it so didnt try to stop it, fate if you will, therefore these future events cant be stopped and leaving us with little reason to follow this calendar because even knowing what will happen wont change the outcome, then its own potential usefulness caves in on itself, itd be like reading your own death in a newspaper a few years before it happened. Possibly it could inspire a spiritual enlightenment in person but most if not all Religions touch on the dooms day anyway and attempts to say why & when it will happen, this is because religion is the consciousness of the group who practice it, and the fear helps the group to take survivalist actions to prolong the life span of the group or idea. Just as our consciousness knows were going to die, the dooms day is the ideologies way of thinking about the end. This explains why there is not a definitive universal dooms day, different groups different times different ideologies different fear of death, that is why the footage links the age old history concept of death to our immediate present emotional fears of the evitable end. Hence I believe that was emotional propaganda and not to be taken as a definite truth.
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I hope they can predict when SC2 comes out.
I too, plan on getting laid.
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On August 24 2007 21:28 Cpt Obvious wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2007 14:25 CaucasianAsian wrote:They say the sun will be centered of the galaxy? wtf is this bullshti? That's 27million lightyears away. We have atleast 27 million times the speed of light, years left. I'll take my chances that it's not in 2012. you have so many mistakes in there I don't know where to start. The milky way is 100 000 Lightyears in diameter, not 27 million. Our solar system is on one of the outer branches though, which makes for approx. 40k LY away from the center. Still, if you wanted to calculate the time it takes in order for our sun to move into the centre of the galaxy, even at the speed of light, which is impossible anyway, it's not 40k TIMES speed of light, but divided by SOL. Which makes, you guessed it, exactly 40k years. The 27 million LY either comes from "this perspective shows the milky way from a distance of 27 mil LY" or "this galaxy looks like the milky way and is 27 mil LY away". Pffft, amateur.
40k years would be if your traveling the speed of light. (Light year is the distance something moves while traveling 299792458 meters per second in one year) That would be 40thousand. But obviously our solar system is not traveling at the speed of light towards the center of the galaxy according to laws of relativity.
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On August 24 2007 14:35 Servolisk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2007 14:30 IdrA wrote:On August 24 2007 14:25 CaucasianAsian wrote:They say the sun will be centered of the galaxy? wtf is this bullshti? That's 27million lightyears away. We have atleast 27 million times the speed of light, years left. I'll take my chances that it's not in 2012. i think the belief is that at that date the black hole at the center of the milky way, the sun, and the earth will all line up. and, according to the 'theory' proponents this will cause the magnetic field to shift and all other sorts of fun stuff. Surely the Mayans didn't know about black holes? Or was this a dif theory?
nah its just another prediction that happened to coincide with the mayan prediction, i only mentioned it because someone else kind of did.
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some famous american prophet/healer who was known for his great predictions that came true and he was able to heal people, tell people what to do to avoid disease/cure disease from the early 20th century (i think) also predicted that the world will end in 2012 when the earth will 'wobble'... and the mayans predict that the same thing will happen when a astronomical event occurs that only takes place once every 26k years
meh... we'll see
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its when the Zerg finally found us and then the Protoss has to pacify the planet to stop the infestation.
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On August 25 2007 01:20 CaucasianAsian wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2007 21:28 Cpt Obvious wrote:On August 24 2007 14:25 CaucasianAsian wrote:They say the sun will be centered of the galaxy? wtf is this bullshti? That's 27million lightyears away. We have atleast 27 million times the speed of light, years left. I'll take my chances that it's not in 2012. you have so many mistakes in there I don't know where to start. The milky way is 100 000 Lightyears in diameter, not 27 million. Our solar system is on one of the outer branches though, which makes for approx. 40k LY away from the center. Still, if you wanted to calculate the time it takes in order for our sun to move into the centre of the galaxy, even at the speed of light, which is impossible anyway, it's not 40k TIMES speed of light, but divided by SOL. Which makes, you guessed it, exactly 40k years. The 27 million LY either comes from "this perspective shows the milky way from a distance of 27 mil LY" or "this galaxy looks like the milky way and is 27 mil LY away". Pffft, amateur. 40k years would be if your traveling the speed of light. (Light year is the distance something moves while traveling 299792458 meters per second in one year) That would be 40thousand. But obviously our solar system is not traveling at the speed of light towards the center of the galaxy according to laws of relativity.
All we knw in reality is the world will not end in the year 2012. No facts have been proven scientifically and logically.
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