2020 US Election - Page 112

On November 05 2020 04:42 GoShox wrote:


The guy is a beast. I went to sleep at ~2:30 my time, woke up at ~9:20 and haven't watched a second of CNN without him present

On November 05 2020 04:35 Shingi11 wrote:
So the question becomes how do moderates and progressive move forward together. Its become clear that progressive will not hold their nose and vote for a candidate they don't want unlike the republican party that will vote for literal garage if it has a R next. Moderate dems need to stop hoping that pipe dream happen after 2 elections of progressives showing there displeasure while progressive need to understand a large part of the country has a very big aversion to them. The big question is how we beige that gap.

On November 05 2020 04:23 Nebuchad wrote:


It is, yeah. But usually we get our international articles from Libération and what they write there about the US is preeetty shit as well.

On November 05 2020 04:48 KungKras wrote:


The progressive plan should be something like this:

Go for the jugular and rip all the establishment corporatists to shreds in the democratic primary in the hope if taking over the party.

If that fails:
Vote democrat in the presidential election and use large scale protests and strikes and any and all other forms of pressure to get some policy consessions if the corporatist wins over the republican. And fight hard to primary establishment democrats in congressional races.

So in short. Fight when you can. Ally when it's necessary.

On November 05 2020 04:35 Shingi11 wrote:
So the question becomes how do moderates and progressive move forward together. Its become clear that progressive will not hold their nose and vote for a candidate they don't want unlike the republican party that will vote for literal garage if it has a R next. Moderate dems need to stop hoping that pipe dream happen after 2 elections of progressives showing there displeasure while progressive need to understand a large part of the country has a very big aversion to them. The big question is how we beige that gap.

On November 05 2020 04:48 KungKras wrote:


The progressive plan should be something like this:

Go for the jugular and rip all the establishment corporatists to shreds in the democratic primary in the hope if taking over the party.

If that fails:
Vote democrat in the presidential election and use large scale protests and strikes and any and all other forms of pressure to get some policy consessions if the corporatist wins over the republican. And fight hard to primary establishment democrats in congressional races.

So in short. Fight when you can. Ally when it's necessary.

On November 05 2020 04:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


Or just do all of the above no matter who is in power. Organize, Strike, while refusing to listen to neoliberals.

On November 05 2020 04:58 Yurie wrote:


Biggest hope is probably to get the Republican party to keep going right until they go too far and no longer get seats. Then you end up with the Democratic party splitting into two and the left half of that split can be further left than the current one. Risk is if this slow slide to the right doesn't lose support but gains it, then you no longer have a democracy.

On November 05 2020 04:38 m4ini wrote:


Put up the most progressive candidate you can find in 4, maybe 8 years. Watch said candidate either win by a landslide, or get absolutely vaporised in the election.

And then: take the hint.

On November 05 2020 04:50 smr wrote:

I feel you. Had too much to do today to check how we're going to present the election tomorrow (we're mostly using dpa-content) but when I finished the local part of the front page I saw a placeholder title about Trump's call for a SCOTUS-decision and while that won't stand the responsible journalists rarely reflect what they are doing. If it is a lie they'll tell you: "But we have to report what was said and people only need to turn 2 pages and read 100 lines and there'll be explained that it's a lie and nobody will ever fall for that."
Twitter is all just internet-nonsense (when that comes up I usually go through the pages and ask them why x,y and z wasn't reported last week, when my nonsense-bubble told me about it).

Journalism is in a horrible spot and yeah at our place... I'm sorry I'm not strong enough to change that.

On November 05 2020 05:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:


At the rate it's going, is it likely that PA will flip to Biden?

On November 05 2020 05:14 Mohdoo wrote:

Progressives need to find a message of socialist policies that resonate for rural America. That’s tough. I also honestly think Democrats need to retreat a bit on abortion. The idea of “the woman is completely the only person who matters” isn’t a winning argument